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    Background:
    I'm trying to find out why HDR10 media on Amazon Prime Video (through the TV app) looks washed out on my LG TV,
    has very bright highlights, but shadow detail is in the mid-grey range. The colors are also off, some shows looking
    like saturated pastel shades. (Their new show "Upload" is one of the worst).

    Yet, YouTube Demos and other sample files I've found on the net, both HDR10 and HDR10+ look
    great.

    I've been asking on the LG and Amazon forums if anybody has any idea, but so far no response, accept
    somebody mentioned it sounds like a tone mapping problem. This seems reasonable, but what does it mean ?
    Something wrong in the metadata? (particularly in light of what I found)

    I recently got lucky and found something that may help solve the problem - If I knew what I was looking for!
    I searched the internet for further HDR samples and I finally found one that exhibits this same washed out look -
    but now I can see the file specs.

    Just out of interest I re-encoded it in Vidcoder using HEVC/Main10 and this file looks normal on my TV, HDR,
    proper color and good brightness range. (To my mind this adds credence to my metadata theory)

    Here's the mediainfo of the re-encode and the source, I can provide file samples if anybody would
    like to to see them.

    My re-encode (720p)
    Code:
    General
    Complete name                            : C:\Users\davex\Desktop\DEMO-720p.mp4
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/iso2/mp41)
    File size                                : 6.26 MiB
    Duration                                 : 59 s 310 ms
    Overall bit rate                         : 886 kb/s
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-06-10 20:58:13
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-06-10 20:58:13
    Writing application                      : HandBrake 20200605160604-75bae14a8-master 2020060501
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : HEVC
    Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile                           : Main 10@L4@High
    Codec ID                                 : hvc1
    Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Duration                                 : 59 s 310 ms
    Bit rate                                 : 882 kb/s
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 536 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 2.40:1
    Frame rate mode                          : Variable
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Minimum frame rate                       : 23.974 FPS
    Maximum frame rate                       : 23.981 FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.054
    Stream size                              : 6.24 MiB (100%)
    Writing library                          : x265 3.2.1+1-b5c86a64bbbe:[Windows][GCC 9.2.0][64 bit] 10bit
    Encoding settings                        : cpuid=1064959 / frame-threads=2 / numa-pools=4 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim /
     log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=1280x536 / interlace=0 / total-frames=0 / level-idc=40 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=3 /
     no-allow-non-conformance / no-repeat-headers / annexb / no-aud / no-hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / open-gop /
     min-keyint=24 / keyint=240 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=20 /
     lookahead-slices=0 / scenecut=40 / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp /
     max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=0 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide /
     no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=1 / no-limit-modes /
     me=1 / subme=2 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=0:0 / sao /
     no-sao-non-deblock / rd=3 / selective-sao=4 / early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / b-intra /
     no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=0.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf /
     crf=21.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / vbv-maxrate=30000 / vbv-bufsize=30000 / vbv-init=0.9 /
     crf-max=0.0 / crf-min=0.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr /
     qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 /
     transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=0 / display-window=0 / cll=0,0 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 /
     vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps /
     scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / no-hdr / no-hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei /
     analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 /
     no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine /
     no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-06-10 20:58:13
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-06-10 20:58:13
    Color range                              : Limited
    Color primaries                          : BT.2020
    Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
    Codec configuration box                  : hvcC
    Original file: (4k)
    Code:
    General
    Unique ID                                : 280667973729367058982597086729421534019 (0xD326AF7D29C2EC532F16E12DC81D3343)
    Complete name                            : C:\Users\davex\Desktop\DEMO.mkv
    Format                                   : Matroska
    Format version                           : Version 4
    File size                                : 88.0 MiB
    Duration                                 : 59 s 407 ms
    Overall bit rate                         : 12.4 Mb/s
    Writing application                      : Lavf58.20.100
    Writing library                          : Lavf58.20.100
    ErrorDetectionType                       : Per level 1
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : HEVC
    Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
    Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
    Duration                                 : 59 s 310 ms
    Bit rate                                 : 12.2 Mb/s
    Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
    Height                                   : 1 608 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 2.40:1
    Frame rate mode                          : Constant
    Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.082
    Stream size                              : 86.1 MiB (98%)
    Writing library                          : x265 3.2+15-04db2bfee5d6:[Windows][GCC 6.3.0][64 bit] 10bit
    Encoding settings                        : cpuid=1176575 / frame-threads=5 / numa-pools=36 / wpp / pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim /
     log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x1608 / interlace=0 / total-frames=0 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=5 /
     no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / no-open-gop / min-keyint=23 /
     keyint=250 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=11 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=40 / lookahead-slices=0 / scenecut=40 /
     radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=3 / tu-intra-depth=3 /
     limit-tu=4 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra /
     no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=4 / limit-refs=1 / limit-modes / me=3 / subme=4 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup /
     no-hme / weightp / weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=6 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip /
     no-rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 /
     no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf / crf=21.2 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 /
     vbv-maxrate=160000 / vbv-bufsize=160000 / vbv-init=0.9 / crf-max=0.0 / crf-min=0.0 / ipratio=1.30 / pbratio=1.20 / aq-mode=3 /
     aq-strength=0.70 / no-cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv /
     sar=1 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=0 /
     display-window=0 / cll=0,0 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps /
     no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr / hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt /
     no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 /
     no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei /
     no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / no-scenecut-aware-qp
    Default                                  : Yes
    Forced                                   : No
    Color range                              : Limited
    Color primaries                          : BT.2020
    Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
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