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  1. Hello everyone. I hope you are well. Three years ago I converted all my older 'videos' from multi formats to digital except my mini DVD-R's from my Hitachi DZ-MV730A. I could not find a service that converts this media type. I am newly settled in a new place and want to convert a bunch of these discs. Haven't used the camcorder in years. Two questions - how can I tell, using the Camcorder, if a disc has already been finalized? And does anyone know how I can turn them into digital files that I can share with the family? I am working on a 2015 MacBook Pro (with Retina) that has Parallels and Windows 10. I do have the Hitachi user manual but it might as well be in Japanese for the extremes - too little info or too complicated. Thank you so much for your input.
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    It doesn't hurt it if you try to finalize a disc that has already been finalized. So try them all.

    And don't digitize them, they are already digital. Just copy the contents to your harddrive and use the files (VOB or similar media files, depending on how your cam structures things). These can, if necessary, be converted (probably to avc/h264 in mp4 file) for other uses such as mobile playback, uploading/sharing, etc.

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  3. Thank you for clarifying that Scott I wasnít aware of that. So that makes the finalization part a non-issue. Iím a little confused about your other response though. I misspoke. I shouldnít have said digitized. When I originally was converting everything I was converting VHS tapes and 8 mm as well. I know itís digital, but itís in a format thatís not readable by my Mac or my TV. So somehow I need to convert it. The camcorder is old and very limited in what it can and canít do.
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    Ok, I'm gonna back up a bit and tell you that it is possible to create 2 vastly different (internally, structure) dvd types using that cam.
    Dvd-Ram and Dvd-R.

    The kind that is most compatible with standard dvd-video players is dvd-r. It has the standard, expected *.VOB, *.IFO, & *.BUP in the VIDEO_TS folder.
    The other kind, while it has potential to do some useful tricks with the material - after it has been recorded - and allows for a more dynamic presentation more like authored Hollywood titles, is the LEAST STANDARD of the dvd standards. It has a *.VRO file instead of the *VO, which resides in a DVD_RTAV folder.

    One benefit of the Ram format is that it doesn't need finalizing to be readable.

    Which format is yours? You might simply be able to tell on the face/surface of the discs, based on the logo.
    If not you should open the disc in a computer and look at which file structure matches the above.

    If you have dvd-r, your job is much easier. You should be able to just copy the whole VIDEO_TS folder over to your drive and the convert it using one of the popular tools: DVDFab, Handbreak, MakeMKV (there are others). Or you could even just rewrap the vobs into mpgs using vob2mpg (doubt that is available on a Mac though).

    If you have a dvd-ram, you still need to copy the files/folder over, but you will need different tools. I don't know of an mac tools that work w ram. On pc side, dvdvob2mpg, and tmpeg authoring works (but you will have to compile to std dvd-video folder first, and then treat is as a dvd-r like above) can read vro files. Not sure what else.

    Hope that helps,

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  5. Hello everyone - I am back. I was able to use the trial version of CDRoller to determine that all but 1 disc has data (video) on track 4. However, they want $49 for the fun version. If I bu that, it will put a file on my computer, that I can save to a different disc to finalize on my Camcorder. The customer service person there told me not to finalize it outside of the Camcorder. I really cannot afford $49. And I cannot seem to find affordable min DVD-R discs anywhere. If I find a box for less than $20 the shipping is astronomical. I have about 20 discs that need to be finalized. Is there any other free or reasonably priced software that can do th trick? Honestly, I don't care if the discs are finalized, I just want playable digital files that I can plan on my computer (and to the TV when I connect it). CDRoller won't work on my MAC, which means I have to install it on my husband's slow Windows computer (not sure it if is even compatible). My MAC does have Parallels with windows 10, but I am not sure if I can use it on there since it is still a MAC. TIA
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    As Scott originally suggested, did you actually try finalizing these disks in the camcorder ?


    I do not exactly know what you mean by 'Track 4' unless it simply means that you do have an un-finalized disk that was used 4 times to film scenes. But that might also confirm that the disk is un-finalized.


    But maybe I over-simplify the issue and they are dvd-ram disks. But, again, as Scott pointed out there should be a label or something on the disk (or the case) so determine whether it is a dvd-video disk or a dvd-ram disk.


    I am not familiar with the Mac system but in Windows you have Windows Explorer and you can view the contents of a finalized dvd-video disk and simply copy the contents to the HDD for further work. Again, not sure how that works with dvd-ram disks.


    So you must walk before your can run. Determine what you have and what you need to do with it finalizing-wise before the next step of converting to a file for playback on your Mac.
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