Need help with detelecine

[Fess]

Hello!
I need help to remove artifacts from video like in a picture:

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As I understand that is telecine-artifact.
I tried HandBrake with several option: detelecine and/or deinterlace but received very bad results some like this:

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or this:

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I attached small piece of video.
Maybe I should use some other software?
Can anybody helps with HandBrake settings or other software to eliminate these artefacts?

[Selur]

at first look:

# Imports
import os
import sys
import vapoursynth as vs
core = vs.get_core()
# Import scripts folder
scriptPath = 'I:/Hybrid/64bit/vsscripts'
sys.path.append(os.path.abspath(scriptPath))
# Loading Plugins
core.std.LoadPlugin(path="I:/Hybrid/64bit/vsfilters/ResizeFilter/nnedi3/vsznedi3.dll")
core.std.LoadPlugin(path="I:/Hybrid/64bit/vsfilters/SourceFilter/LSmashSource/vslsmashsource.dll")
# Import scripts
import havsfunc
import mvsfunc
# Loading C:\Users\Selur\Desktop\1ACV01 «Space Pilot 3000» [NTSC]_edit.mkv using LWLibavSource
clip = core.lsmas.LWLibavSource(source="C:/Users/Selur/Desktop/1ACV01~1.MKV", format="YUV420P8", cache=0, prefer_hw=0)
# making sure input color matrix is set as 470bg
clip = core.resize.Point(clip, matrix_in_s="470bg",range_s="limited")
# making sure frame rate is set to 29.97
clip = core.std.AssumeFPS(clip, fpsnum=30000, fpsden=1001)
# Setting color range to TV (limited) range.
clip = core.std.SetFrameProp(clip=clip, prop="_ColorRange", intval=1)
clip = core.vivtc.VFM(clip=clip, order=0, mode=4)
clip = core.vivtc.VDecimate(clip=clip)
clip = core.vivtc.VFM(clip=clip, order=0, blockx=16, blocky=16)
# Anti Aliasing using DAA
clip = havsfunc.daa(c=clip, nns=1, qual=2)
# Output
clip.set_output()

some normal IVTC and some anti-aliasing doesn't look that bad in regards of the lines, but there is still the chroma ghosting,...
(btw. there should be quite a few (old) threads about Futurama and Simpsons filtering with Avisynth&Co here and over at doom9s)

[jagabo]

Unfortunately, the chroma in the sample is already messed up. The following AviSynth script was able to work around it, at least for this short clip:

Mpeg2Source("1ACV01.d2v", CPU2="ooooxx", Info=3) 
Crop(8,0,-8,-0)
Interleave(TFM(field=0, pp=0), TFM(field=1, pp=0)) # smart bob
vinverse() # blur remaining comb artifacts
SRestore(omode=4) # replace blended frames with clear frame
TDecimate(Cycle=10, CycleR=6) # reduce frame rate fro 59.94 to 23.976

But cartoons like that are "shot" on film and edited as video. They end up as a mix of hard and soft telecine, with a mix of frame rates. For example, the titles in that sample are overlaid as 30i. So you can't have both smooth titles (fade in/out) and smooth character animation.

In short, the video is completely messed up and will be very hard to impossible to convert perfectly.

[Fess]

That means I need good source to convert? e.g. I have to find original DVD-images and make DVD-rip with constant frame rate?

"So you can't have both smooth titles and smooth character animation " - I need video without artifact, let it be without "smooth". Is it possible just to delete broken frames and replace them by copy of previous (or next) frame?

[SaurusX]

Another Futurama / Family Guy thread. These DVD's are a notch above garbage level. You'll never get acceptable results using Handbrake as it just isn't capable of fixing the problems inherent in the discs. That's why every recommendation so far has been using Vapoursynth and AVISynth. Change your fundamental approach or give up.

[jagabo]

That means I need good source to convert? e.g. I have to find original DVD-images and make DVD-rip with constant frame rate?

No, the original DVDs are messed up.

"So you can't have both smooth titles and smooth character animation " - I need video without artifact, let it be without "smooth". Is it possible just to delete broken frames and replace them by copy of previous (or next) frame?

That's what my AviSynth script did. But the titles don't fade in smoothly. Of course, that's not a huge problem. But there may be other parts of the video where it is much more visible. For example, if there are any titles that scroll or pan across the frame. Their motion will be not be smooth at 24p.

[Fess]

jagabo
You wrote "That's what my AviSynth script did.", but your script made a very big corruption of frame:

Your frame:


Good frame (should be the same after script):

[jagabo]

Oops, I uploaded the wrong video. Here's the right one.

[Fess]

Yes, it's much better) But it still has a problem:

Instead of this should be this frame:

[jagabo]

Yes, I know frames like that get messed up. You can fix most of that by turning TFM's post processor back on and adjusting the cthres value but then it may deinterlace the shots where the titles fade in/out. So then you have to treat different parts of the video differently. That's the problem with all those Cartoon Network shows -- fixing them is a huge hassle. I was just showing you an example of how you can remove the chroma blending artifacts referenced in your first post. And it may not work with all of the them.

[Selur]

Yup, Simpsons, Futurama, TNG and Babyon 5 are some of the most nerve wracking content out there that isn't garbage, but a real hassle to deal with properly.