xvid4psp questions and help needed

[Ryan]

Hello Everyone,

I and my friend need some help with xvid4psp.

we are taking our video files from 264 to 265 and our problem is subtitles our current version does not do them and we need some help.

please we do not want to get or start a coding war and such so if at all possible no posts in regards to other than whats trying to be accomplished.


Right now the main version we are using is 7.0.255 (free version), we are using the medium preset and a few slight mods but nothing major. we will not go into quality or anything like that other than to say the encoded file looks identical to the original just a smaller size.

our problem is even though you can see the subtitle option in the version its grayed out. Per another post it seems that there is nothing that can be done to enable this in this version, but if you know how to that would be great to know and would actually solve our problems.

please do not recommend tools such as mkvtools and such for the subtitles, while that works just fine when you have a small handful of videos (currently doing that on ones i am doing day by day but its a small handful) its not feasible time wise when you have hundred or more of files.

well what we did was upgrade the program to v8 (had no problem forking out the money).


v8 does the subtitles just fine but running into another issue with it.
the whole reason to do this is to save space on the media center, i actually built a new pc for this and figure with how much space is being saved i'll recover enough space off eh drives i currently have to actually have paid for the new pc in terms of not having to buy more hard drives.

the issue is while v8 does subtitles (subs are not large at all) the files with the same setting are producing files usually that are bigger for some reason and we can not figure out why, if it was just a few megs it wouldn't be a big deal but on average is 50+ to more some movies hundred of megs more.

we've been comparing the two versions settings and they appear to be identical except for the old version has a profile and level setting of auto and level is blank. the new v8 has them both set to auto and there is no way to blank out the level. is that the problem? we don't know but thats the only setting we can find thats different.

below are some a few tests done and if you all can help or need more info please let me know

# 1 3 hour video
original file 7.61gb
v7: 2.13gb
v8 2.28gb

# 2 45min video
original: 1.24gb
v7: 699mb
v8: 632

# 3 45min video
original: 1.49gb
v7: 1.05gb
v7 with level set to auto: 1.08gb
v8: 1.09 gb


thanks ryan

[davexnet]

Post a full MediaInfo report in text view. The summary above is useless

[Ryan]

i can do that when i get home, maybe i should just do one of them? or multiple posts with each example.

ryan

[davexnet]

Post 2 reports for the same movie so we can see the full differences.

[Ryan]

hello,

well i'm be dumb founded half of my logs are gone, been doing the same file on both versions and except for the first ones i saved the logs, anyways attached is a few, 2 with v7 and one with v8, although this one is not that big of a difference about 40-70 megs but even that with enough files is a large difference and you'd think if the codec for x265 has only gotten better it should produce even smaller files.

anyways I am more than happy to admit I can't figure this out as, as far as I can see on the settings between both versions the only thing thats different is v8 had level set to auto and my v7 has it blank, when its set to auto it makes larger files too.

Ryan

[davexnet]

Version 7 and 8 of Ghost nation not just different version of Xvdi4psp, but V8 is using a new version of the x265 encoder -
this makes comparison of the two outputs almost pointless

Hard to read those logs, a text view output using mediainfo is much clearer.

when comparing V7 and V8 of ghost nation, you see a few differences in the x265 options
I'm not an expert on the x265 options, but there are some differences, such as aq-mode which may affect the final size
but that's just a guess

https://x265.readthedocs.io/en/default/cli.html

[Ryan]

thanks for the reply,

the settings in the program itself are the same from one to the other wonder if v8 makes changes when you start the coding process, after all its not finalized yet but more or less a beta, this current version released in feb of this year.

my friend and i have got it close to the same size as it used to make in v7, but its just odd cause sometimes they are bigger than before and sometimes smaller we haven't figured it out. in v7 you could do it and always get the same file size if you didn't change anything, but v8 the file size can very with no changes in the settings. very odd.

ryan