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[sam12345]

@ProWo

Noticed a stange bug in 3.4.7.11, it was not there before. when i cut the video with option "should the cut's be added to join list > NO" ; it's not honoring it.

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EDIT:

I think the video files contains chapters and it will honour if the chapters are removed before the cut. Can something be done along with chapters ?

[ProWo]

Noticed a stange bug in 3.4.7.11, it was not there before. when i cut the video with option "should the cut's be added to join list > NO" ; it's not honoring it.

Just tested; it works as aspected.
With NO, the cuts are done, but not added to the join list. With YES, they're added.

Can something be done along with chapters?

If you cut a video with chapters in 3 parts, the chapters are copied in all 3 cut chunks, but if you join them, the chapters are removed.
If you check the chapters checkbox at joining, new chaperts are written at the join timestamps.

[ingsoc]

add audio file, say NO, and on exit it will be added to the muxing list. It is happening since all the last betas and past version.

[Findu]

@ ProWo

v3.4.7.11

Strange DVD-Rip behavior with a single VTS_01_1.VOB file:

When you start the app, click "Select Source File" select the only VOB file from your HD/SD folder such as VTS_01_1.VOB, you will see the "Possible DVD source" window. If you click Yes, the DVD-Rip page opens. If you click Rip, you will return to a Main page with deactivated options and the "Possible DVD source" window will reappear. If you click Yes, you will see a mixed page consisting of the DVD-Rip and Main pages!

DVD-Rip page NEW:

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Main page with deactivated options:

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When you click Main page you are back at the usual Main page. Good.
But when you open the same vob file again via "Select source file", you get the "Possible DVD source" window, when you click Yes the DVD-Rip page appear, this time with "Rip in progress...", but nothing happens.

DVD-Rip/Main page combination:

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When you click on "Rip in progress..." you get the "Possible DVD source" window, when you click Yes, the DVD-Rip/Main page combination opens.

DVD-Rip page NEW:

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Experienced users certainly don't do what as described. But beginners won't get anywhere with it.

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Info window "Possible DVD source", proposal for a text amendment for improved readability:

This file could be part of a DVD movie.
Yes, rip the entire movie.
No, use only this file.

[Deathstalker]

btw commandline...
I think it would be great if this could simply appear under all the main action buttons like Encode, Extract, Scan, Cut, etc.

There will be no further commandline support in clever.

Could you at least consider adding this simple way to copy the command line output? Unfortunately, the existing options are all time-consuming and have drawbacks.


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1. `<cmd_l>1</cmd_l>`
This shows a MessageBox for every action, but copying from it always includes extra text such as the window title and the OK/Cancel, etc.

2. `BT_open.tx`
This closes Clever and opens a text file, which interrupts the workflow and isn’t practical for quick command-line checks.

3. Batch tasks
This requires adding an action to the batch list even when you only want to view the command line. Returning to previous windows can reset some settings, interrupting the workflow, and the item must remain in Row 1 to display the correct command. This forces users to repeatedly clear and re-add items just to check another command. Even if other rows are added, the process remains inefficient—especially for users who don’t regularly work with batch tasks.

Right now, my workaround is to use a heavy process-monitoring tool or the Event Viewer to capture the command line. I’d really prefer not to rely on that, but it’s still faster than the built-in methods above.

A simple “mouse2 copy” function would solve all of this.

[videoAI]

Most modern apps expose ffmpeg commands these days ..
Here is an example:


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There will be no further command line support in clever.

Could you at least consider adding this simple way to copy the command line output?
A simple “mouse2 copy” function

[ProWo]

As I already said, there will be no further command line support.
I don't want users messing around with the command line.

[Findu]

@ ProWo

v3.4.7.12 feedback

Thanks for the latest fixes and changes.
The fixes are working well so far.

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Suggestion:
Could the "Process aborted" window appear only once, as long as the Video/Audio encoding page stay open?
Once you've read and clicked OK, you'll know what happens next time when you abort at this open page!

Minor text change idea:
Video encoding aborted.
The unfinished file will be deleted.

[ProWo]

Suggestion:
Could the "Process aborted" window appear only once, as long as the Video/Audio encoding page stay open?
Once you've read and clicked OK, you'll know what happens next time when you abort at this open page!

No, because this message and the unfinished file deletion are centralized.

[videoAI]

@ProWo
v3.4.7.12 feedback

Thank you for making changes, we really appreciate your time & effort.
Did any of these 4 pending changes get fixed in v3.4.7.12 ?

• post2786386
  Save default settings for:
  1- After Mux Action [Dropdown Selection]
  2- Title [Checkmark]
  3- Container [Type]
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• post2786330
  Batch Remove tmcd stream
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• post2786194
  Zero file check to all extracts [including srt]
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• post2785921
  Output Folder
  Replacing the label with the actual toggle button

[ProWo]

Did any of these 4 pending changes get fixed in v3.4.7.12 ?[*]post2786386
Save default settings for:
3- Container [Type]

It has been saved for a long time.

[*]post2786194
Zero file check to all extracts [including srt]

Still to be done.

[*]post2786386
Save default settings for:
1- After Mux Action [Dropdown Selection]
2- Title [Checkmark]
-----------------[*]post2786330
Batch Remove tmcd stream
-----------------[*]post2785921
Output Folder
Replacing the label with the actual toggle button

I will not make these changes.

[videoAI]

Thx for taking the time to respond ..

Did any of these 4 pending changes get fixed in v3.4.7.12 ?

[*]post2786194
Zero file check to all extracts [including srt]
Still to be done.

[*]post2786386
Save default settings for:
1- After Mux Action [Dropdown Selection]
2- Title [Checkmark]
-----------------
[*]post2786330
Batch Remove tmcd stream
-----------------
[*]post2785921
Output Folder
Replacing the label with the actual toggle button

I will not make these changes.

[Findu]

@ ProWo

v3.4.7.12 feedback

The lossless crop "preview" is experiencing issues.
Just button cropping does not get displayed.
Just left cropping get displayed right.
Just right cropping get displayed at the button.

The source file is mkv.
All files processed with cropped metadata are displayed correctly. Only the lossless crop "preview" has problems.

[videoAI]

@ProWo
v3.4.7.12 feedback

Edit #1
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duplicated the issue again .. it is a bug.
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FYI, Video stream shows in sub dropdown ..
is that supposed to happen?


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[ProWo]

FYI, Video stream shows in sub dropdown ..
is that supposed to happen?

No, of course. Just tested, doesn't happen here with me. Could you post this test video here, so I can take a look?

[ProWo]

The lossless crop "preview" is experiencing issues.

Thx for the hint, will be fixed.

[oniiz86]

add audio file, say NO, and on exit it will be added to the muxing list. It is happening since all the last betas and past version.

@ProWo I was wondering if you've confirmed if this is a bug, if so has it been or will it be addressed?

I was also wondering if you could tell me why my HDR-SDR conversion video size is so small, the original video stream is 40GB and after the SDR conversion it's just 3GB in size, Encoder settings were CRF 23, Preset "medium", Tune "auto",Profile "auto" & bicubic for the SDR processing, why such a large discrepancy?

[ProWo]

add audio file, say NO, and on exit it will be added to the muxing list. It is happening since all the last betas and past version.

ProWo I was wondering if you've confirmed if this is a bug, if so has it been or will it be addressed?

Add where? I'm not a clairvoyant, please provide more details.

I was also wondering if you could tell me why my HDR-SDR conversion video size is so small, the original video stream is 40GB and after the SDR conversion it's just 3GB in size, Encoder settings were CRF 23, Preset "medium", Tune "auto",Profile "auto" & bicubic for the SDR processing, why such a large discrepancy?

You reduced the resolution, probably to 1920x1080.
Are you satisfied with the quality? If so, why do you want a larger file?
The file size is determined by the compression factor, in this case CRF. Use 18 instead of 23 and you will get a larger file.

[videoAI]

Attached ..

Edit #1: added a json file of the source, might help in testing.

I can parse the source, read it, play it, & generate its Metadata just fine as shown


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Video stream shows in sub dropdown ..

Could you post this test video here, so I can take a look?

[videoAI]

@ProWo
v3.4.7.12 feedback

FYI, Scan for errors, batch scan, Right click on action column, CRASH

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: text
at System.Windows.Forms.Clipboard.SetText(String text, TextDataFormat format)
at clever_FFmpeg_GUI.Form38.DGV1_CellMouseClick(Objec t sender, DataGridViewCellMouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnCellMouseClick (DataGridViewCellMouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnMouseClick(Mou seEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
************** Loaded Assemblies **************

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[Findu]

@ ProWo

How about moving the button "Detect" and change the color?

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Tooltip Mux, Chapters:
A space is missing between text "activate, deactivate"

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Tooltip Video encoding, HWA-decoding:
Suggested text:

Hardware-accelerated decoding options
none and auto work with scale and crop.
Other selections depend on the hardware
and may not work.

[ProWo]

FYI, Video stream shows in sub dropdown ..
is that supposed to happen?

Just tested with your file; the issue cannot be replicated here with me.
You can change only from 3 to 7, no way go get av1 as streams 4.


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[ProWo]

FYI, Scan for errors, batch scan, Right click on action column, CRASH

I forgot that scan for errors does not display a command line.
The error was therefore to be expected.
I will fix that.

[videoAI]

To replicate:
Choose the same parameters as in image, Convert, go back and try the drop down.
Voilà !!

Video stream shows in sub dropdown ..

Just tested with your file; the issue cannot be replicated here with me.

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[videoAI]

Thx

FYI, Scan for errors, batch scan, Right click on action column, CRASH

I will fix that.

[oniiz86]

add audio file, say NO, and on exit it will be added to the muxing list. It is happening since all the last betas and past version.

ProWo I was wondering if you've confirmed if this is a bug, if so has it been or will it be addressed?

Add where? I'm not a clairvoyant, please provide more details.

I was also wondering if you could tell me why my HDR-SDR conversion video size is so small, the original video stream is 40GB and after the SDR conversion it's just 3GB in size, Encoder settings were CRF 23, Preset "medium", Tune "auto",Profile "auto" & bicubic for the SDR processing, why such a large discrepancy?

You reduced the resolution, probably to 1920x1080.
Are you satisfied with the quality? If so, why do you want a larger file?
The file size is determined by the compression factor, in this case CRF. Use 18 instead of 23 and you will get a larger file.

@ProWo I know you're not clairvoyant, this was @ingsoc's bug, sorry if I wasn't clear on that, I just noticed you hadn't addressed his post, I too am having trouble trying to replicate this bug actually, in the "Multiplex" screen if I click "add file" to add an audio track there isn't any "No" to select, it simply adds the audio track to the muxing grid, I guess @ingsoc should have provided clearer detailed steps on how to encounter this bug.

In regards to my HDR-SDR conversion, yes it is 1920 x 1080 resolution, I understand about the CRF setting, I typically do use a CRF of 18 but it generally doesn't offer that much more of a larger file size & takes considerably longer, this took me almost 3 hours using CRF of 23, I was merely curious as to why it is so much smaller after removing the HDR metadata & using the much more inefficient codec avc compared to hevc, I just thought me using the "medium" Preset and the "auto" settings for Tune & Profile played some part in the significantly smaller file size & was concerned about it being overly compressed, hopefully it will be just fine.

[ProWo]

To replicate:
Choose the same parameters as in image, Convert, go back and try the drop down.
Voilà !!

Thx, you're right; it happens with Stay open checked.
Will be fixed.

[ProWo]

@ProWo I know you're not clairvoyant, this was @ingsoc's bug, sorry if I wasn't clear on that, I just noticed you hadn't addressed his post, I too am having trouble trying to replicate this bug actually, in the "Multiplex" screen if I click "add file" to add an audio track there isn't any "No" to select, it simply adds the audio track to the muxing grid, I guess @ingsoc should have provided clearer detailed steps on how to encounter this bug.

Found it, it happens with audio file only as source; if you convert it (convert or to batch), there is the option to add the output to the mux list or not.
If you choose to batch, then you can replicate the batch with other audio files. Your prior choice to add or not is replicated too and applied to the output files. Just tested, it works as aspected (add or not add to mux list).

In regards to my HDR-SDR conversion, yes it is 1920 x 1080 resolution, I understand about the CRF setting, I typically do use a CRF of 18 but it generally doesn't offer that much more of a larger file size & takes considerably longer, this took me almost 3 hours using CRF of 23, I was merely curious as to why it is so much smaller after removing the HDR metadata & using the much more inefficient codec avc compared to hevc, I just thought me using the "medium" Preset and the "auto" settings for Tune & Profile played some part in the significantly smaller file size & was concerned about it being overly compressed, hopefully it will be just fine.

The compression has nothing to do with the HDR to SDR conversion, it depends only from CRF and preset. Medium gives you a little smaller file than fast.

[oniiz86]

The compression has nothing to do with the HDR to SDR conversion, it depends only from CRF and preset. Medium gives you a little smaller file than fast.

@ProWo Oh okay thanks for that, regarding the Preset options, is that correct, as I thought Medium would result in a larger file size as it takes much longer to encode than Fast, well that is what it sounds like according to the FFmpeg documentation?

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[videoAI]

Are you sure it is not my environment?
Just kidding ..

To replicate:
Choose the same parameters as in image, Convert, go back and try the drop down.
Voilà !!

Thx, you're right; it happens with Stay open checked.
Will be fixed. []