create "hybrid" Video CD / MP3 CD that plays on DVD- and MP3 CD-players

[PeteWright]

Hello everyone,

I am new to the world of video creation / authoring and as the topic title already says, I need some help.

What I want to do:
burn a CD-ROM, that contains multiple data sources:

1. a video (in a format, that plays on most DVD players)
2. an mp3 (that plays on CD-players with mp3 support)

What I have got:

• MP4 (854x480, AVC, Main@L3.1, 29.97, 2h 13min, 404MB)
• MP3 (CBR 128, 2h 13min, 130MB)

What I have done so far:

• tried some of the proposed software here Authoring (SVCD/VCD) Free Downloads - VideoHelp
• searched the web for software and tried many of them

Unfortunately none of what I have tried did what I wanted it to.

Any help appreciated

[aedipuss]

you're not going to get 133 minutes of video onto a cd in any format that will have enough bitrate to be watchable on a tv. svcd is good up to about 45 minutes. vcd twice that, but is cbr and can only hold 80 minutes of video tops. and finding players that support vcd, and svcd may be hard.

did you try just writing the mp4 and mp3 to a cd as files? some players may accept them.


a dvd may work better, that way you could at least make a higher quality video.

[lingyi]

848x480 isn't a valid size for DVD playback, you'll have to resize to one of the sizes listed in the following link by cropping top, bottom or both or resizing it and adding a border top and or sides :https://www.videohelp.com/dvd

You add your .mp3 (and any other file) to the Extras folder on a DVD, but not all DVD players will be able access and play the file

You can add the audio to the Audio video on a DVD, but you'll have to convert it to one of the valid audio formats listed in the link above. Not all DVD players will be able to access and play the file since the Audio folder is rarely used.

It may be possible to make a mini-DVD on a CD with the DVD file structure, but the video would have to resized to fit 320x240 at MPEG-1 and be a really low bitrate to get 133 minutes, possibly below the minimum bitrate allowed by the DVD specs

[Cornucopia]

Yeah, you are gonna have to make a decision between using older, authored formats (look up my old posts on AVCD) for more universal legacy compatibility
vs
Using newer tech (bd) or Using data discs to retain quality along with full playing time.

Scott

[lingyi]

-Dupe-

[PeteWright]

Actually I want to copy a video for my mum. She only has a DVD player / TV and an old PC with a 19" 4:3 monitor.
So the only way she can watch movies in "higher" resolutions is via DVD player.

I have multiple source files
The first is an mp4 A/V file:

General
Format                      : MPEG-4
Format profile              : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                    : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                   : 434 MiB
Duration                    : 2 h 13 min
Overall bit rate mode       : Variable
Overall bit rate            : 455 kb/s

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : Baseline@L3
Format settings             : 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC      : No
Format settings, ReFrames   : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP        : M=1, N=60
Codec ID                    : avc1
Codec ID/Info               : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                    : 2 h 13 min
Bit rate                    : 356 kb/s
Maximum bit rate            : 1 336 kb/s
Width                       : 640 pixels
Height                      : 360 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.052
Stream size                 : 340 MiB (78%)
Color range                 : Limited
Color primaries             : BT.709
Transfer characteristics    : BT.709
Matrix coefficients         : BT.709
Codec configuration box     : avcC

Audio
ID                          : 2
Format                      : AAC LC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                    : mp4a-40-2
Duration                    : 2 h 13 min
Bit rate mode               : Variable
Bit rate                    : 96.0 kb/s
Maximum bit rate            : 102 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Channel layout              : L R
Sampling rate               : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                  : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode            : Lossy
Stream size                 : 91.6 MiB (21%)

The second source is seperate A/V as HD-ready video + 160 kbps mp3:

General
Format                      : dash
Codec ID                    : dash (iso6/avc1/mp41)
File size                   : 785 MiB
Duration                    : 2 h 13 min
Overall bit rate            : 823 kb/s

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : Main@L3.1
Format settings             : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames   : 3 frames
Codec ID                    : avc1
Codec ID/Info               : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                    : 2 h 13 min
Bit rate                    : 820 kb/s
Width                       : 1 280 pixels
Height                      : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.030
Stream size                 : 783 MiB (100%)
Color range                 : Limited
Color primaries             : BT.709
Transfer characteristics    : BT.709
Matrix coefficients         : BT.709
Codec configuration box     : avcC

Toshiba SD3010KE

• DVD Video disc
• DVD+R/RW
• DVD+R DL
  DVD Video format or Audio/Video formats (e.g., MP3, JPEG and DivXfiles).
• CD-R
  Audio/Video formats (e.g., MP3,®JPEG and DivX files)
• CD-RW (CD-Rewritable
  Audio/Video formats (e.g., MP3,®JPEG and DivX files)
• Audio CD
• Video CD (Formats 1.0, 1.1, 2.0)
• Super Video CD
• MP3-Disc

DivX®

• The file extensions have to be '.DIVX', '.XVID' or '.AVI'.
• DivX3.11, 4.x, 5.x and 6.0.

What would be the best solution?

[Cornucopia]

The best you could do with that would either be creating a DVD data disc that had DivX (or Xvid masquerading) files & mp3 files.
Or,
A standard DVD-Video disc.

The former has the potential for higher resolution, but the toolset & process might be cumbersome trying to find what actually works.
The latter has straightforward tools and techniques and is universally supported, but can give SD video at best.
However, it doesn't sound like that tv is anything beyond a CRT and it sounds like it is being fed via composite cable, so the DVD path is preferrable.

Scott

[lingyi]

AVIDemux can convert to xvid, chose MPEG4 ASP (xvid4) as the video output. The audio as .mp3 in the second file should be fine. I'm not sure the odd resolutions 854x480 and 640x360 or the 720p since the player is primarily DVD.

Edit: Just dawned on me. 854x480 is square pixel and 640x360 must be cropped 640x480, so not that odd.