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  1. Hello all,

    I've authored a Blu-Ray which is refused by Eclipse in the replication plant. Their diagnostic tool says my total bitrate exceeds 56 Mb/s (48 Mb/s is the max.). However after checking all my bitrates, I'm much lower and inside what the standard allows. Please check the different captures and report from BDinfo and Eclipse.

    Any help appreciated.

    Eclispe error:



    H264 bitrate analyze by BDinfo:



    Global report by BDinfo:

    Disc Label: BD
    Disc Size: 23,165,613,392 bytes
    Protection: AACS
    BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

    Notes:

    BDINFO HOME:
    Cinema Squid (old)
    http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo
    UniqProject GitHub (new)
    https://github.com/UniqProject/BDInfo

    INCLUDES FORUMS REPORT FOR:
    AVS Forum Blu-ray Audio and Video Specifications Thread
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1155731


    ********************
    PLAYLIST: 00001.MPLS
    ********************

    <--- BEGIN FORUMS PASTE --->
    Code:
                                                                                                                    Total   Video                                             
    Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
    -----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
    00001.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:52:02 23,154,438,144  23,165,613,392  27.56   20.00   LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)          DTS-HD Master 5.1 3748Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
    Code:
    DISC INFO:
    
    Disc Label:     BD
    Disc Size:      23,165,613,392 bytes
    Protection:     AACS
    BDInfo:         0.7.5.5
    
    PLAYLIST REPORT:
    
    Name:                   00001.MPLS
    Length:                 1:52:02.215 (h:m:s.ms)
    Size:                   23,154,438,144 bytes
    Total Bitrate:          27.56 Mbps
    
    VIDEO:
    
    Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
    -----                   -------             -----------     
    MPEG-4 AVC Video        19998 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
    
    AUDIO:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    LPCM Audio                      French          2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit
    DTS-HD Master Audio             French          3748 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  3748 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
    
    FILES:
    
    Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
    ----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
    00001.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:52:02.215     23,154,438,144  27,556          
    
    CHAPTERS:
    
    Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
    ------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
    1               0:00:00.000     0:09:40.912     20,691 kbps     36,317 kbps     00:00:27.485    29,085 kbps     00:00:23.440    27,238 kbps     00:00:23.565    107,865 bytes   749,301 bytes   00:00:14.681    
    2               0:09:40.912     0:23:56.767     19,201 kbps     29,712 kbps     00:24:05.652    27,077 kbps     00:24:03.441    25,221 kbps     00:26:47.272    100,108 bytes   831,411 bytes   00:12:38.257    
    3               0:33:37.680     0:11:27.228     19,906 kbps     39,610 kbps     00:44:59.321    29,392 kbps     00:44:58.320    24,411 kbps     00:38:19.714    103,783 bytes   715,556 bytes   00:44:50.187    
    4               0:45:04.908     0:09:22.603     19,712 kbps     32,801 kbps     00:53:10.103    28,784 kbps     00:53:07.893    26,473 kbps     00:53:03.263    102,768 bytes   676,748 bytes   00:52:36.027    
    5               0:54:27.511     0:14:58.271     20,520 kbps     32,933 kbps     01:00:36.299    29,337 kbps     01:00:36.299    25,997 kbps     01:06:26.982    106,979 bytes   735,976 bytes   00:57:23.773    
    6               1:09:25.782     0:06:28.971     19,803 kbps     34,108 kbps     01:14:28.380    28,974 kbps     01:12:34.016    26,133 kbps     01:12:30.846    103,241 bytes   731,807 bytes   01:12:32.598    
    7               1:15:54.754     0:16:35.786     19,716 kbps     32,225 kbps     01:32:27.458    27,634 kbps     01:26:41.863    24,777 kbps     01:26:36.858    102,792 bytes   825,917 bytes   01:17:01.450    
    8               1:32:30.540     0:06:47.781     20,592 kbps     37,354 kbps     01:36:07.303    29,499 kbps     01:35:34.436    27,253 kbps     01:35:34.812    107,359 bytes   675,652 bytes   01:39:13.906    
    9               1:39:18.322     0:12:43.893     20,797 kbps     38,068 kbps     01:49:15.131    29,340 kbps     01:49:04.162    27,185 kbps     01:49:14.214    108,433 bytes   866,763 bytes   01:42:33.564    
    
    STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:
    
    File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
    ----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
    00001.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6722.132                19,998                  16,803,717,610  91,418,640      
    00001.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            LPCM            fra (French)            6722.132                2,310                   1,941,375,768   10,755,545      
    00001.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       fra (French)            6722.132                3,748                   3,148,991,980   18,162,091
    QUICK SUMMARY:

    Disc Label: BD
    Disc Size: 23,165,613,392 bytes
    Protection: AACS
    Playlist: 00001.MPLS
    Size: 23,154,438,144 bytes
    Length: 1:52:02.215
    Total Bitrate: 27.56 Mbps
    Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 19998 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
    Audio: French / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
    Audio: French / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3748 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
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    While it is not out of the realm of possibility for your freeware consumer app to be more accurate than the industry standard verification app (though that sounds awkward even saying that), it ultimately doesn't matter what BDInfo says, as you can't get your BD pressed without it first passing verification.

    However, I do note that while bdinfo gives you max down to the level of 1 second, it doesn't get more granular. It could very well be that you have an instantaneous (1 frame) max that exceeds the limit, but frames around it when averaged to the second show a much lower average. In other words, you have a SPIKE.

    Which encoder and/or muxer did you use? Were you using true 2pass vbr with integrated BD vbv constraints, or were you using something like 1 pass, crf, etc? That could easily account for the difference.

    Regardless, you will have to re-encode. I suggest you do only the segment in question (unless you truly didn't use proper 2pass, in which case it would be better to redo the whole thing properly).

    [Spoken from someone who has had to deal with mastering verification before.]

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  3. Thank you.

    In the meantime, Iíve just found the solution. Actually, after compiling the Blu-Ray in DVD-architect, I remux an audio track with a DTS HD Master Audio 5.1 stream using MultiAVCHD/TSMuxer (cause DVD-Architect only supports the old Dolby Digital 5.1). Iíve read on Doom9 forum that TSmuxer is always refused by Eclipse.

    No more bitrate alert anymore. There was no peak above 48 Mbit/s. It was just a muxing problem.
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    3 things:
    I did ask you what muxer you were using, because, as you found out, it does bear on the issue.
    I could have told you that muxman wasn't compliant enough. It was reverse engineered, and while its dvd capabilities and compatibilities are nearly complete, its bd portion has a way to go.
    Monitor your bitrate still. Lossless audio streams such as TrueHD, DTS-MA, also have been known to spike their instantaneous bitrates, and what happens if the audio and the video spikes coincide? A better muxer can smooth that out somewhat, but not completely.

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  5. I used TSMuxer to mux the stream. Then I retried with BDFix and it's fine. There was no bitrate issue.
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    It's fine via Eclipse?

    Note: TSMuxer is better, but is still reverse-engineered AFAIK (unless the author went and bought the actual specs and didn't tell us, which I doubt). Use at your own risk. For burned discs, its not a big deal, but once you go factory-pressed discs, it is best to play by their rules.

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  7. Yes Eclipse accepted BDfix muxing
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