hard subtitle keep source features

[ghazalo]

Dear All

Please help me to get exact same feature of the Video source after hardsub.
I use handbrake (profile:fast1080p 30), but I may use anything else if better results.
It just I get really shitty in compare to the source

the media file info of the source as below

General
Unique ID                   : 101640387152434000061554667773810576619 (0x4C7739FD0EAD3D8D819EAEA91F2A0CEB)
Complete name               : D:\XXX.mkv
Format                      : Matroska
Format version              : Version 4
File size                   : 1.01 GiB
Duration                    : 23 min 40 s
Overall bit rate            : 6 089 kb/s
Encoded date                : UTC 2019-04-30 09:52:29
Writing application         : mkvmerge v32.0.0 ('Astral Progressions') 64-bit
Writing library             : libebml v1.3.7 + libmatroska v1.5.0

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : High@L4
Format settings             : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames   : 4 frames
Codec ID                    : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                    : 23 min 39 s
Bit rate                    : 5 959 kb/s
Width                       : 1 920 pixels
Height                      : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.120
Stream size                 : 1 009 MiB (98%)
Writing library             : x264 core 142
Encoding settings           : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.40:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=9999999 / keyint_min=5000000 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=15.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=8000 / vbv_bufsize=12000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.60
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No

Audio
ID                          : 2
Format                      : AAC LC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                    : A_AAC-2
Duration                    : 23 min 40 s
Bit rate                    : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
Channel layout              : L R
Sampling rate               : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                  : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode            : Lossy
Delay relative to video     : -83 ms
Stream size                 : 21.7 MiB (2%)
Language                    : Japanese
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No

I usually encode the video and remux the original audio for better sound results

[jagabo]

That's looks to be about x264 preset=slow, tuning=film, (C)RF=15.0.

[ghazalo]

That's looks to be about x264 preset=slow, tuning=film, (C)RF=15.0.

So you say I adjust the video features in handbrake using the same profile to what you mention?

I use same source frame rate and put as constant?

[jagabo]

Yes. You will still lose a little quality (quality gets worse every time you reencode with a lossy codec) but you probably won't notice it.

[ghazalo]

Yes. You will still lose a little quality (quality gets worse every time you reencode with a lossy codec) but you probably won't notice it.

ok thanks

I will encode and update you

thanks

[ghazalo]

it is great thanks

but the size of the video becomes way high 65%

can I avoid the increment in sizing?

[jagabo]

Is this animated material? If so use tune=animation instead of film. Other settings that might effect the overall size are vbv_maxrate=8000 and vbv_bufsize=12000. Enter those in the Extra Options box as "vbv_maxrate=8000:vbv_bufsize=12000" without the quotes.

Other unusual setting are keyint=9999999 and keyint_min=5000000. I highly recommend against using those. You'll get a little more compression but the file will be very hard to random seek. But if you want to add those use "keyint=9999999:keyint_min=5000000" in the Extra Options box. Note that if you add those to the earlier list you need to add a colon (:) between them. Ie, every option needs to be separated by a colon.

[ghazalo]

yes it is animation

I will try adding those and I changed the tune to animation

thanks

my friend advised me to use profile : Vimeo youtube HQ 1080P 60, what do you think about it ?

he says almost I get same source size and quality

[ghazalo]

thank you the size goes much less

[jagabo]

my friend advised me to use profile : Vimeo youtube HQ 1080P 60, what do you think about it ?

Since you're trying to match the size/quality of the existing file I don't think you want to start with a Web Optimized preset. I definitely wouldn't go with 60 fps. The source is 23.976 and should stay that way. Web Optimized (Summary tab) doesn't hurt (it puts the keyframe index near the start of the file rather than at the end, that makes it easier to play on-line). I'd start with General, HQ1080p30.

[hannahxx]

Truly. You will at present lose somewhat (quality deteriorates each time you reencode with a lossy codec) however you presumably won't see it. Dafont 192.168.l.l FileHippo

[Ollie947732B]

Is your original audio track encoded by aac? If your original audio is encoded by FLAC or ALAC, please don't re-encode it. FLAC and ALAC are the lossless audio formats, best for your sound results.
What's plus, you can properly adjust the audio bit rate from 128kbps to 192 or 256kbps. The same also applies to its sample rate.

[ghazalo]

my friend advised me to use profile : Vimeo youtube HQ 1080P 60, what do you think about it ?

Since you're trying to match the size/quality of the existing file I don't think you want to start with a Web Optimized preset. I definitely wouldn't go with 60 fps. The source is 23.976 and should stay that way. Web Optimized (Summary tab) doesn't hurt (it puts the keyframe index near the start of the file rather than at the end, that makes it easier to play on-line). I'd start with General, HQ1080p30.

thanks I put all as above by jagabo advised thanks

[ghazalo]

Is your original audio track encoded by aac? If your original audio is encoded by FLAC or ALAC, please don't re-encode it. FLAC and ALAC are the lossless audio formats, best for your sound results.
What's plus, you can properly adjust the audio bit rate from 128kbps to 192 or 256kbps. The same also applies to its sample rate.

thanks I encoded without audio and I merged the audio so I wont lose anything of the sound (the main target is the video hard subbed so it work on TV using flash memory)

[ghazalo]

Truly. You will at present lose somewhat (quality deteriorates each time you reencode with a lossy codec) however you presumably won't see it. Dafont 192.168.l.l FileHippo

thanks,

[ghazalo]

guys I have a new series with the following specs , the audio will be added from the original, all what I am looking for from this specs how I determine the handbrake :
1- encode perset
2-encode tune
3-encode profile
4-RF
I know the others such as (frame-rate , video codec) as it is available in the specs

or if there is a better encoder that take all original specs and add hardsub that's all

General
Unique ID                   : 238393458518803211519925687801507845475 (0xB358E8F7C64A6F1FFC89E56372659563)
Complete name               : D:\Tactics EP01 [480].mkv
Format                      : Matroska
Format version              : Version 4
File size                   : 235 MiB
Duration                    : 23 min 16 s
Overall bit rate            : 1 410 kb/s
Encoded date                : UTC 2019-05-23 19:14:34
Writing application         : mkvmerge v32.0.0 ('Astral Progressions') 64-bit
Writing library             : libebml v1.3.7 + libmatroska v1.5.0
Attachments                 : Andalus.ttf / Arial Black.ttf / lucida-sans-unicode.ttf / PT Bold Heading.ttf

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : High 10@L4.1
Format settings             : CABAC / 16 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames   : 16 frames
Codec ID                    : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                    : 23 min 16 s
Bit rate                    : 1 400 kb/s
Width                       : 720 pixels
Height                      : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 4:3
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 10 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.169
Stream size                 : 234 MiB (100%)
Title                       : Najica Blitz Tactics - Najica Dengeki Sakusen 01
Writing library             : x264 core 120 r2164 da19765
Encoding settings           : cabac=1 / ref=16 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=7 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=1400 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=48 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=0.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language                    : English
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No

Text
ID                          : 2
Format                      : ASS
Codec ID                    : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info               : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Duration                    : 23 min 14 s
Bit rate                    : 67 b/s
Count of elements           : 181
Compression mode            : Lossless
Stream size                 : 11.5 KiB (0%)
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No

thanks to all

[jagabo]

That's close to the veryslow preset. A list of preset settings I posted a long time ago:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/355140-HD-Video-Compression-Best-Quality-1-3-Size-...74#post2233174

[ghazalo]

That's close to the veryslow preset. A list of preset settings I posted a long time ago:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/355140-HD-Video-Compression-Best-Quality-1-3-Size-...74#post2233174

thanks

so i chose very slow and all specs will be there automatically?

[jagabo]

No, a few of them are different. But you're wasting your time worrying about using the same settings. If you don't have playback restrictions (for example, Blu-ray players can't handle 16 reference frames) just use the slowest preset you can stand to wait for, with tuning appropriate for your source (animation, film, grain).

[ghazalo]

No, a few of them are different. But you're wasting your time worrying about using the same settings. If you don't have playback restrictions (for example, Blu-ray players can't handle 16 reference frames) just use the slowest preset you can stand to wait for, with tuning appropriate for your source (animation, film, grain).

so I will use the following, wishing will keep the closest to the original

please advise if there is anything to fix, yes i don't have playback restrictions

[jagabo]

If you don't have playback restrictions then use h.264 10 bit. Or even better h.265 10 bit. Don't limit Profile or Level.

[ghazalo]

If you don't have playback restrictions then use h.264 10 bit. Or even better h.265 10 bit. Don't limit Profile or Level.

ok thanks