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  1. Member ghazalo's Avatar
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    Dear All

    Please help me to get exact same feature of the Video source after hardsub.
    I use handbrake (profile:fast1080p 30), but I may use anything else if better results.
    It just I get really shitty in compare to the source

    the media file info of the source as below

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    Unique ID                   : 101640387152434000061554667773810576619 (0x4C7739FD0EAD3D8D819EAEA91F2A0CEB)
    Complete name               : D:\XXX.mkv
    Format                      : Matroska
    Format version              : Version 4
    File size                   : 1.01 GiB
    Duration                    : 23 min 40 s
    Overall bit rate            : 6 089 kb/s
    Encoded date                : UTC 2019-04-30 09:52:29
    Writing application         : mkvmerge v32.0.0 ('Astral Progressions') 64-bit
    Writing library             : libebml v1.3.7 + libmatroska v1.5.0
    
    Video
    ID                          : 1
    Format                      : AVC
    Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile              : High@L4
    Format settings             : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames   : 4 frames
    Codec ID                    : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration                    : 23 min 39 s
    Bit rate                    : 5 959 kb/s
    Width                       : 1 920 pixels
    Height                      : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
    Frame rate mode             : Constant
    Frame rate                  : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space                 : YUV
    Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                   : 8 bits
    Scan type                   : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.120
    Stream size                 : 1 009 MiB (98%)
    Writing library             : x264 core 142
    Encoding settings           : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.40:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=9999999 / keyint_min=5000000 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=15.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=8000 / vbv_bufsize=12000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.60
    Default                     : Yes
    Forced                      : No
    
    Audio
    ID                          : 2
    Format                      : AAC LC
    Format/Info                 : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID                    : A_AAC-2
    Duration                    : 23 min 40 s
    Bit rate                    : 128 kb/s
    Channel(s)                  : 2 channels
    Channel layout              : L R
    Sampling rate               : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate                  : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode            : Lossy
    Delay relative to video     : -83 ms
    Stream size                 : 21.7 MiB (2%)
    Language                    : Japanese
    Default                     : Yes
    Forced                      : No
    I usually encode the video and remux the original audio for better sound results
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  2. That's looks to be about x264 preset=slow, tuning=film, (C)RF=15.0.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    That's looks to be about x264 preset=slow, tuning=film, (C)RF=15.0.
    So you say I adjust the video features in handbrake using the same profile to what you mention?

    I use same source frame rate and put as constant?
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  4. Yes. You will still lose a little quality (quality gets worse every time you reencode with a lossy codec) but you probably won't notice it.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Yes. You will still lose a little quality (quality gets worse every time you reencode with a lossy codec) but you probably won't notice it.
    ok thanks

    I will encode and update you

    thanks
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    it is great thanks

    but the size of the video becomes way high 65%

    can I avoid the increment in sizing?
    Last edited by ghazalo; 4th May 2019 at 11:48.
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  7. Is this animated material? If so use tune=animation instead of film. Other settings that might effect the overall size are vbv_maxrate=8000 and vbv_bufsize=12000. Enter those in the Extra Options box as "vbv_maxrate=8000:vbv_bufsize=12000" without the quotes.

    Other unusual setting are keyint=9999999 and keyint_min=5000000. I highly recommend against using those. You'll get a little more compression but the file will be very hard to random seek. But if you want to add those use "keyint=9999999:keyint_min=5000000" in the Extra Options box. Note that if you add those to the earlier list you need to add a colon (:) between them. Ie, every option needs to be separated by a colon.
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    yes it is animation

    I will try adding those and I changed the tune to animation

    thanks

    my friend advised me to use profile : Vimeo youtube HQ 1080P 60, what do you think about it ?

    he says almost I get same source size and quality
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    thank you the size goes much less
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  10. Originally Posted by ghazalo View Post
    my friend advised me to use profile : Vimeo youtube HQ 1080P 60, what do you think about it ?
    Since you're trying to match the size/quality of the existing file I don't think you want to start with a Web Optimized preset. I definitely wouldn't go with 60 fps. The source is 23.976 and should stay that way. Web Optimized (Summary tab) doesn't hurt (it puts the keyframe index near the start of the file rather than at the end, that makes it easier to play on-line). I'd start with General, HQ1080p30.
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    Truly. You will at present lose somewhat (quality deteriorates each time you reencode with a lossy codec) however you presumably won't see it. Dafont 192.168.l.l FileHippo
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    Is your original audio track encoded by aac? If your original audio is encoded by FLAC or ALAC, please don't re-encode it. FLAC and ALAC are the lossless audio formats, best for your sound results.
    What's plus, you can properly adjust the audio bit rate from 128kbps to 192 or 256kbps. The same also applies to its sample rate.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Originally Posted by ghazalo View Post
    my friend advised me to use profile : Vimeo youtube HQ 1080P 60, what do you think about it ?
    Since you're trying to match the size/quality of the existing file I don't think you want to start with a Web Optimized preset. I definitely wouldn't go with 60 fps. The source is 23.976 and should stay that way. Web Optimized (Summary tab) doesn't hurt (it puts the keyframe index near the start of the file rather than at the end, that makes it easier to play on-line). I'd start with General, HQ1080p30.

    thanks I put all as above by jagabo advised thanks
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    Originally Posted by Ollie947732B View Post
    Is your original audio track encoded by aac? If your original audio is encoded by FLAC or ALAC, please don't re-encode it. FLAC and ALAC are the lossless audio formats, best for your sound results.
    What's plus, you can properly adjust the audio bit rate from 128kbps to 192 or 256kbps. The same also applies to its sample rate.
    thanks I encoded without audio and I merged the audio so I wont lose anything of the sound (the main target is the video hard subbed so it work on TV using flash memory)
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    Originally Posted by hannahxx View Post
    Truly. You will at present lose somewhat (quality deteriorates each time you reencode with a lossy codec) however you presumably won't see it. Dafont 192.168.l.l FileHippo

    thanks,
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    guys I have a new series with the following specs , the audio will be added from the original, all what I am looking for from this specs how I determine the handbrake :
    1- encode perset
    2-encode tune
    3-encode profile
    4-RF
    I know the others such as (frame-rate , video codec) as it is available in the specs

    or if there is a better encoder that take all original specs and add hardsub that's all


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    Unique ID                   : 238393458518803211519925687801507845475 (0xB358E8F7C64A6F1FFC89E56372659563)
    Complete name               : D:\Tactics EP01 [480].mkv
    Format                      : Matroska
    Format version              : Version 4
    File size                   : 235 MiB
    Duration                    : 23 min 16 s
    Overall bit rate            : 1 410 kb/s
    Encoded date                : UTC 2019-05-23 19:14:34
    Writing application         : mkvmerge v32.0.0 ('Astral Progressions') 64-bit
    Writing library             : libebml v1.3.7 + libmatroska v1.5.0
    Attachments                 : Andalus.ttf / Arial Black.ttf / lucida-sans-unicode.ttf / PT Bold Heading.ttf
    
    Video
    ID                          : 1
    Format                      : AVC
    Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile              : High 10@L4.1
    Format settings             : CABAC / 16 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames   : 16 frames
    Codec ID                    : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration                    : 23 min 16 s
    Bit rate                    : 1 400 kb/s
    Width                       : 720 pixels
    Height                      : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio        : 4:3
    Frame rate mode             : Constant
    Frame rate                  : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space                 : YUV
    Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                   : 10 bits
    Scan type                   : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.169
    Stream size                 : 234 MiB (100%)
    Title                       : Najica Blitz Tactics - Najica Dengeki Sakusen 01
    Writing library             : x264 core 120 r2164 da19765
    Encoding settings           : cabac=1 / ref=16 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=7 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=1400 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=48 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=0.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
    Language                    : English
    Default                     : Yes
    Forced                      : No
    
    Text
    ID                          : 2
    Format                      : ASS
    Codec ID                    : S_TEXT/ASS
    Codec ID/Info               : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
    Duration                    : 23 min 14 s
    Bit rate                    : 67 b/s
    Count of elements           : 181
    Compression mode            : Lossless
    Stream size                 : 11.5 KiB (0%)
    Default                     : Yes
    Forced                      : No

    thanks to all
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  17. That's close to the veryslow preset. A list of preset settings I posted a long time ago:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/355140-HD-Video-Compression-Best-Quality-1-3-Size-...74#post2233174
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    That's close to the veryslow preset. A list of preset settings I posted a long time ago:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/355140-HD-Video-Compression-Best-Quality-1-3-Size-...74#post2233174
    thanks

    so i chose very slow and all specs will be there automatically?
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  19. No, a few of them are different. But you're wasting your time worrying about using the same settings. If you don't have playback restrictions (for example, Blu-ray players can't handle 16 reference frames) just use the slowest preset you can stand to wait for, with tuning appropriate for your source (animation, film, grain).
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    No, a few of them are different. But you're wasting your time worrying about using the same settings. If you don't have playback restrictions (for example, Blu-ray players can't handle 16 reference frames) just use the slowest preset you can stand to wait for, with tuning appropriate for your source (animation, film, grain).
    so I will use the following, wishing will keep the closest to the original

    please advise if there is anything to fix, yes i don't have playback restrictions

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  21. If you don't have playback restrictions then use h.264 10 bit. Or even better h.265 10 bit. Don't limit Profile or Level.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    If you don't have playback restrictions then use h.264 10 bit. Or even better h.265 10 bit. Don't limit Profile or Level.
    ok thanks
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