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  1. I have made a short video clip, and its saved as .wmv its now 35.7MB so I tried converting to these formats and the size has increased a lot 1st I tried .mp4 that made it 74.6Mb 2nd tried .mkv it was same 74.6MB 3rd I then tried .avi that made it even more 80.5MB so whats best video compresser
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  2. Originally Posted by natty View Post
    I have made a short video clip, and its saved as .wmv its now 35.7MB so I tried converting to these formats and the size has increased a lot 1st I tried .mp4 that made it 74.6Mb 2nd tried .mkv it was same 74.6MB 3rd I then tried .avi that made it even more 80.5MB so whats best video compresser
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    size = bitrate * running time
    So use a lower bitrate if you want a smaller file. Container (mp4, wmv, mkv, avi) makes very little difference in the file size.

    The best codec and container depends on your needs/requirements.
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    size = bitrate x running time
    Assuming the running time is fixed, you lower the bitrate to produce a smaller file.

    EDIT jagabo beat me to it!
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  4. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Originally Posted by natty View Post
    I have made a short video clip, and its saved as .wmv its now 35.7MB so I tried converting to these formats and the size has increased a lot 1st I tried .mp4 that made it 74.6Mb 2nd tried .mkv it was same 74.6MB 3rd I then tried .avi that made it even more 80.5MB so whats best video compresser
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    size = bitrate * running time
    So use a lower bitrate if you want a smaller file. Container (mp4, wmv, mkv, avi) makes very little difference in the file size.

    The best codec and container depends on your needs/requirements.
    where do i find what bitrate it is now
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  5. MediaInfo can tell you the bitrate of most media files.
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  6. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    MediaInfo can tell you the bitrate of most media files.

    I have that so where is BR and how do I lower it

    Thanks for helping anyway
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    Originally Posted by videobruger View Post
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    Ok I can see the bitrate now so how do I make it lower.
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  8. If your goal is to create an MP4 or MKV, don't make a WMV in the first place. Reencoding yet again after creating the WMV unnecessarily degrades the video quality.

    Whatever encoder you use will have the ability to adjust the bitrate lower, or lower the quality

    Ok I can see the bitrate now so how do I make it lower.
    What are we, mindreaders? Have you mentioned the program you're using?
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  9. Originally Posted by manono View Post
    If your goal is to create an MP4 or MKV, don't make a WMV in the first place. Reencoding yet again after creating the WMV unnecessarily degrades the video quality.

    Whatever encoder you use will have the ability to adjust the bitrate lower, or lower the quality

    Ok I can see the bitrate now so how do I make it lower.
    What are we, mindreaders? Have you mentioned the program you're using?
    I'm sorry but the program I used is called faststone capture

    httphttp://www.faststone.org/FSCapturerDownload.htm

    I'm made a .wmv file I never told it to hence why I had to convert it to other formats
    Code:
      General
    Complete name                            : C:\Users\PC\Desktop\Video_2018-11-23_174201.mp4
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media
    Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    File size                                : 74.6 MiB
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 2 403 kb/s
    Writing application                      : Lavf54.63.104
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : Main@L3.2
    Format settings                          : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, RefFrames               : 1 frame
    Codec ID                                 : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Bit rate                                 : 2 239 kb/s
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 932 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 1.373
    Frame rate mode                          : Constant
    Frame rate                               : 12.000 FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.156
    Stream size                              : 69.8 MiB (94%)
    Writing library                          : x264 core 129
    Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x131 / me=dia / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=2 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=2239 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.41 / aq=1:1.00
    Codec configuration box                  : avcC
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 2
    Format                                   : AAC LC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Duration_FirstFrame                      : 70 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 152 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 176 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel layout                           : L R
    Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 4.71 MiB (6%)
    Default                                  : Yes
    Alternate group                          : 1
    
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  10. Originally Posted by natty View Post
    I'm sorry but the program I used made a .wmv file I never told it to hence why I had to convert it to other formats
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      General
    Complete name                            : C:\Users\PC\Desktop\Video_2018-11-23_174201.mp4
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media
    Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    File size                                : 74.6 MiB
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 2 403 kb/s
    Writing application                      : Lavf54.63.104
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : Main@L3.2
    Format settings                          : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, RefFrames               : 1 frame
    Codec ID                                 : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Bit rate                                 : 2 239 kb/s
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 932 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 1.373
    Frame rate mode                          : Constant
    Frame rate                               : 12.000 FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.156
    Stream size                              : 69.8 MiB (94%)
    Writing library                          : x264 core 129
    Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x131 / me=dia / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=2 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=2239 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.41 / aq=1:1.00
    Codec configuration box                  : avcC
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 2
    Format                                   : AAC LC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Duration_FirstFrame                      : 70 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 152 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 176 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel layout                           : L R
    Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 4.71 MiB (6%)
    Default                                  : Yes
    Alternate group                          : 1
    
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    Why are you posting a MediaInfo report of an MP4 file?

    Originally Posted by natty View Post
    I have that so where is BR and how do I lower it
    It's in the video encoder settings. But nobody knows what program(s) you are using so we can't give specific instructions.
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  11. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Originally Posted by natty View Post
    I'm sorry but the program I used made a .wmv file I never told it to hence why I had to convert it to other formats
    Code:
      General
    Complete name                            : C:\Users\PC\Desktop\Video_2018-11-23_174201.mp4
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media
    Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    File size                                : 74.6 MiB
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 2 403 kb/s
    Writing application                      : Lavf54.63.104
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : Main@L3.2
    Format settings                          : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, RefFrames               : 1 frame
    Codec ID                                 : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Bit rate                                 : 2 239 kb/s
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 932 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 1.373
    Frame rate mode                          : Constant
    Frame rate                               : 12.000 FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.156
    Stream size                              : 69.8 MiB (94%)
    Writing library                          : x264 core 129
    Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x131 / me=dia / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=2 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=2239 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.41 / aq=1:1.00
    Codec configuration box                  : avcC
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 2
    Format                                   : AAC LC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
    Duration                                 : 4 min 20 s
    Duration_FirstFrame                      : 70 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 152 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 176 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel layout                           : L R
    Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 4.71 MiB (6%)
    Default                                  : Yes
    Alternate group                          : 1
    
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    Why are you posting a MediaInfo report of an MP4 file?

    Originally Posted by natty View Post
    I have that so where is BR and how do I lower it
    It's in the video encoder settings. But nobody knows what program(s) you are using so we can't give specific instructions.

    It's above the program I used which made a .wmv but I had converted it to .mp4 as not many use wmv that's why I did a media info as was told above
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  12. Apparently, this Fastone Capture only caps as WMV. If you're not willing to use a different screen capture program that caps in a more widely used format, then we have to know what program you're using to do the conversion to MP4. That's if you can't figure out for yourself how to adjust the bitrate setting from whatever is used as the default.

    It's above the program I used which made a .wmv...
    That makes no sense at all. Not to me, anyway.
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  13. Originally Posted by manono View Post
    Apparently, this Fastone Capture only caps as WMV. If you're not willing to use a different screen capture program that caps in a more widely used format, then we have to know what program you're using to do the conversion to MP4. That's if you can't figure out for yourself how to adjust the bitrate setting from whatever is used as the default.

    It's above the program I used which made a .wmv...
    That makes no sense at all. Not to me, anyway.


    Firstly I have not said Im not willing to use a different screen capture program. its just that this faststone capture was only 1 I had on my PC

    and to convert wmv to different formats I use FreeMakeVideoConverter


    http://www.freemake.com/free_video_converter/
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    I would recommend OBS Studio, as it's pretty much the only free capture software anyone uses anymore. It's mostly designed around capturing with x264, GPU based encoders, or FFMPEG (which has just about every encoder known to man).

    And Free Video Converter is generally avoided around here. An easier alternative with better controls and no adware/bloatware, would be Handbrake or Vidcoder.
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  15. Originally Posted by KarMa View Post
    I would recommend OBS Studio, as it's pretty much the only free capture software anyone uses anymore. It's mostly designed around capturing with x264, GPU based encoders, or FFMPEG (which has just about every encoder known to man).

    And Free Video Converter is generally avoided around here. An easier alternative with better controls and no adware/bloatware, would be Handbrake or Vidcoder.

    Ok am now downloading OBS-Studio-22.0.2-Full-Installer-x64 and handbrake


    I have just installed OBS-Studio but how on earth do I capture a recording from a game. I dont think this is what I need as I want to record a game i play for video
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  16. capture a recording from a game
    Then OBS definitely is the software you want to use.

    Youtube has videos for setttings to use. Google obs recording settings for youtube
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  17. Originally Posted by videobruger View Post
    capture a recording from a game
    Then OBS definitely is the software you want to use.

    Youtube has videos for setttings to use. Google obs recording settings for youtube

    ok will check on youtube thanks



    I have just tried out OBS and saved as .mp4 but there is no picture on video cant make it out. it works ok when its on Display capture, but i had it on Game Capture as assumed this is whats need to record a game


    General
    Complete name : C:\Users\PC\Videos\2018-11-24 12-15-52.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media
    Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    File size : 375 KiB
    Duration : 21 s 0 ms
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 146 kb/s
    Writing application : Lavf57.84.100

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L3.1
    Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, RefFrames : 2 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 21 s 0 ms
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 9 678 b/s
    Maximum bit rate : 11.2 Mb/s
    Width : 852 pixels
    Height : 682 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 5:4
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 30.000 FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.001
    Stream size : 24.8 KiB (7%)
    Color range : Limited
    Matrix coefficients : BT.470 System B/G
    Codec configuration box : avcC

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC LC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
    Duration : 20 s 945 ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 128 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel layout : L R
    Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 328 KiB (88%)
    Title : simple_aac_recording
    Default : Yes
    Alternate group : 1
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    Just have to put "Game Capture" in the source and pick out the game.exe. The little eye icon shows what will and won't be captured, so click on the eye to hide stuff. There is also a setting to turn off Aero during recording, which I find helps a lot with stuttering problems during recording.
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  19. Originally Posted by KarMa View Post
    Just have to put "Game Capture" in the source and pick out the game.exe. The little eye icon shows what will and won't be captured, so click on the eye to hide stuff. There is also a setting to turn off Aero during recording, which I find helps a lot with stuttering problems during recording.

    Ok thanks will try that tomorrow. Where is this setting called Aero
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    File --> Settings --> Video --->Disable Aero

    It's the translucent effect for Windows 7 and Vista. I was thinking Aero was also in Windows 8 and 10 but it's not, so if you are on 8 or 10 then it might not be there or might not have an effect.
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  21. Originally Posted by KarMa View Post
    File --> Settings --> Video --->Disable Aero

    It's the translucent effect for Windows 7 and higher.


    Ok thanks will test it out tomoz



    Hi I have tried this OBS its same version you have 22.02 64 bit. I am on windows 10 so that aero dont apply to me. but your game capture window is different to mine. as it says in properties under mode. then window with your game counter strike i dont have that so how do you add that or a game





    Are you about KarMa
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    It's not limited to Counter Strike but just any game or program you wish to record. Anyway I think it's a simple problem, check the video.

    Also if you have a newish GPU or a newish Intel CPU, you might be able to use hardware encoders built into newer hardware components. Meaning that game play won't be sluggish when encoding/recording your videos. OBS can use just about any consumer hardware encoder. What GPU and CPU do you have?
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  23. Originally Posted by KarMa View Post
    It's not limited to Counter Strike but just any game or program you wish to record. Anyway I think it's a simple problem, check the video.

    Also if you have a newish GPU or a newish Intel CPU, you might be able to use hardware encoders built into newer hardware components. Meaning that game play won't be sluggish when encoding/recording your videos. OBS can use just about any consumer hardware encoder. What GPU and CPU do you have?

    Hi thanks for this. I didnt realise all i had to do was change to capture Specific Window silly me LOL
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