I have a 3D Blu-Ray disc that I'm trying to add Atmos sound to, because the studio only wanted to give it to us in the UHD version.
Anyway, I extracted the Atmos sound track in both THD format using eac3to, and also in a MKA file using MKVtoolnix. I then tried to use TSMuxer (latest version) to add that track to the Blu Ray video and make a new ISO. The problem is that TSMuxer doesn't like the audio. With both formats it keeps telling me "Can't detect stream type" when I try to add the audio.
Is there anything else I can do to get the Atmos audio onto the Blu Ray disc? I can easily do it as an MKV file output using MKVToolnix, but that is not what I'm looking for because I want to play the 3D Blu Ray on a disc player after.
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Complete name : F:\Atmos.truehd
Format : TrueHD
File size : 3.25 GiB
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
FileExtension_Invalid : mlp thd vr
Format : TrueHD
Format profile : TrueHD+Atmos / TrueHD
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 5 742 kb/s
Channel(s) : Object Based / 8 channels
Channel positions : Object Based / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : / 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossless
I suspect there isn't a domestic software package to do it. https://www.dolby.com/uploadedFiles/Assets/US/Doc/Professional/Authoring_for_Dolby_Atm..._Manual(1).pdfSONY 75" Full array 200Hz LED TV, Yamaha A1070 amp, Zidoo UHD3000, BeyonWiz PVR V2 (Enigma2 clone), Chromecast, Windows 7 Ultimate, QNAP NAS TS851
However, am pretty confident that, until IF and WHEN a FOSS application developer reverse-engineers it, Atmos creation will not be available to anyone for less than $$$. That's by design.
Last edited by Cornucopia; 24th Nov 2018 at 17:12.
Note mkvmerge will separate TrueHD and AC3 core into separate tracks. So if possible go back to your source files which still have them in a single track.
Should that no be possible anymore eac3to can encode an AC3 core:
eac3to "input.thd" "output.thd+ac3"
(I don't know about tsMuxer's capabilities.)
If it's an mkv the AC3 core has probably been stripped as previously mentioned. eac3to should be able to embed an AC3 core into the THD track and output as THD+AC3 like sneaker mentions below.
EDIT: eac3to "input.thd" "output.thd+ac3"
I say should because sometimes I get errors that prevent it from doing so successfully...but I use useac3to for gui and I'm guessing I'm not setup properly or something.
If it's a full disc rip I think you should be able to load the (correct) playlist in tsmuxer along with the 3D disc and just reorder and remux, keeping only the tracks you want.
Last edited by redsandvb; 25th Nov 2018 at 20:02.Put NBC's Ed on Blu-ray!
I tried encoding an AC3 core into the TrueHD track using eac3to like you suggested, but the following is what happened:
>eac3to.exe "f:\Atmos.truehd" "F:\AtmosAC3.thd+ac3"
TrueHD (Atmos), 7.1 channels, 48kHz
AC3 encoding doesn't support back channels. Will mix them into the surround.
Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
Mixing surround channels...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
Creating file "F:\AtmosAC3.thd+ac3"...
libav Lossless check failed - expected 00, calculated 1f.
libav restart header sync incorrect (got 0x04b2)
libav Invalid channel 8 specified as output from matrix.
The libav decoder reported error -1094995529 while decoding.
Aborted at file position 87818240.
Put NBC's Ed on Blu-ray!
I was trying to do the same to my Blade Runner 2049 3D BD. Warner Bros. just has no love for putting Atmos or HD 7.1 sounds on their 3D BD. I think partly due to the fact that there is barely any room left to spare on a DL 50GB BD. Most of the 3D BD with HD 7.1 sound already clocks in at 48GB. I think it's really hard to squeeze in Atmos on BD 3D disc. That being said, WB can at least include a 7.1 HD track instead of a HD 5.1 track. I'm living abroad in Asia, and thought I got lucky and when I found a 3D BD version of Blade Runner 2049 with Atmos on the cover. But it was a combo cover and Atmos was on the 2D, and for some reason Sony is distributing 2049 in Asia not WB, and (sigh) the audio is not even HD 5.1, it's regular lossly Dolby Digital 5.1. I have no idea why. I digress, I'm responding to tell you what I found out in my adventures in trying to do something similar on my 3D BD titles with 5.1 and Atmos on their 2D combo pack counter part, and at the very least, down convert Atmos to a HD 7.1 track.
TSmuxer, if you haven't figured out by now, does not support Atmos, trust me, tried and tried. No dice. You can strip it down to an utput.thd+ac3 as mentioned the other posts, but that process is complicated and not very practical and might be a sound integrity issue. I did this with my Lego Batman, and channel separation is quite off. So not entirely impossible, the end results is a mix bag at best. So I ended up settling for converting Atmos down to DTS HD 7.1. I was able to do this using MKVtoolnix to convert Atmos to MKA. Then used UsEac3To to demux it into 7.1 channel streams. Lastly using DTS HD Encoder to assemble all of the channels into an dtsHDMA file and then marry it back to the video using MKVtoolnix again. If you want it back as a Blu Ray file, then you can drop the finished MKV file into DVDFab Blu Ray creator and burn a back-up copy, assuming you own the original 3D BD, I don't condone pirating, 3D is dying and needs support! I did this with some of my 3D titles for the same reasons you are, 3D should be seen with at lease a 7.1 track.
I know I didn't really help you solve this problem, but just wanted to give some insight into the process. Sorry, as far as I know, there are no easy or affordable way to strip, process, and remux Atmos to a different Blu Ray video file. And since 3D is dying on the home theater front, I don't foresee anybody making this possible in the near future.
Scott that was exactly what I meant by my post and by domestic I meant free programs like TSMuxer etc etc. ProTools widely used in Oz BTW even at the Australian Film TV and Radio School, the Federal government funded media school, located at Fox studios SydneySONY 75" Full array 200Hz LED TV, Yamaha A1070 amp, Zidoo UHD3000, BeyonWiz PVR V2 (Enigma2 clone), Chromecast, Windows 7 Ultimate, QNAP NAS TS851
Have a read of this thread https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/370044-Converting-TrueHD-audio-for-importing-into-...10#post2372868