What are the latest reports on Verbatim dual-layer AZO ? (Not Life Series.) Still Made in Taiwan, still reliable ?
Still 8X rated ? (Although I did not burn them at more than a 4X setting.) Where did you order them from ?
I don't want to order what turn out to be the wrong ones and then have to return them.
[It appears that the Verb. part # @ Rima has changed, for example.]
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Last edited by Seeker47; 2nd Nov 2018 at 19:55.
I suspect the TY and AZO discs aren't in high demand by the general public and may be old stock. As lordsmurf stated above, high heat/humidity and light = improper storage = possible conditions in a warehouse.
- CMC Magnetics, Taiwan
- Moser Baer (MBI), India
- Prodisc Technology, Taiwan
- Falcon Technologies (FTI), United Arab Emirates (UAE)
CMC obviously still around, making not just their own CMC media (still crap), but also MCC/MKM, TY, and maybe some others. It became cheaper for other manufacturers to export their labor and facilities to CMC, and just give them specs and supplies for the discs. CMC is a publicly traded company, and you can see some of their dealings in the disclosure filings. They have negative income, negative profit, negative growth, but sustained sales/cashflow with billions in assets. Their stock trades for about 33% of what it did a decade ago.
Prodisc is MIA, believed to be defunct, another recession victim. I've not seen non-NOS Prodisc at all in the 2010s; and I don't even mean MCC/MKM. The only place where I know to find Prodisc MID DVD still is at Americal.com. They must have over-ordered tons of it. Question is, how good is the warehouse storage? Post-4x Prodisc was always 2nd class, meaning already marginal. Not bad, just not great. Add in heat and humidity, and it'll quickly become cakes of coasters.
FTI exists, and makes MKM DVD+R DL. Everything else is FTI media (using licensed TDK MID), or Ritek.
MBI stills makes MCC/MKM media, but I'm not sure if it's exported outside India these days. Maybe Europe, elsewhere in Asia? I've not seen any in North America for years.
To clarify, CMC in Taiwan in the sole manufacturer of AZO discs, correct?
What about Singapore? Is the factory still there? They stopped making AZO discs years ago. Are they still around?
The Singapore plant was always for R&D-type initial production. I'm not sure if it's still around, but I'm betting it is. At least the facility. I'm not sure if it still does optical, or was retrofitted for something new.
No, I don't think CMC exclusively makes the AZO. MBI and FTI both have some currently.
Purely out of curiosity for me since it's been years since I've burned a disc and I don't even know exactly where my blanks are!
Packaging says "Verbatim #95098 1606-203" above the UPC barcode.
That UPC is "023942 950981".
Packaging says "Made in Taiwan" and at the very bottom says "Verbatim Americas LLC 2016".
Nero DiscSpeed reads them as "Verbatim MCC 004 000 (00h)".
Based on what I noted above with "2016" on the wrapper I assume they are no older than 2016 but in theory I guess they could be newer too if that was some kind of copyright thing rather than supposed to be a "birthdate" (?). I don't have the wrapper still for the spindle I bought like 2 years ago which drove me crazy with bad burns, so I can't compare those.
It is single layer though, you may be asking about dual layer (?).
Imgburn likely provides that info as well, when you load a disc ? I think I may be out of any remaining personal stock on those now, but will have to look around to be sure.
Verbatim sells BR blank media in 25 & 50 Gb. sizes also. Not sure what the production or quality story is on those, though.
Bump: I am left even more dubious, insofar as Amazon has several product listings for this (for a spindle of the same size),
ranging from $30. to ~ $60. Something doesn't feel right about this.
I visited the disc blanks page at lordsmurf's site
(which has apparently not been updated for a few years ?), and he seemed to be indicating that there was nothing to worry about in regard to the Verb AZO DLs from sources like UAE. But, I'd prefer to hear current reports from him -- and others -- on this score. And, if anyone knows of extant sources for the Made in Singapore (or Made in Taiwan ?) variety, I would much appreciate that info.
From the customer questions and answers section on Amazon, it seems they're made exclusively in UAE as of 2015, possibly late 2014. No reports of any made in Taiwan. So if someone does have available Made in Singapore stock, they would be at least 4 years old, stored under unknown conditions.
Hopefully others will chime in with their opinions and experiences.
Last edited by lingyi; 22nd Dec 2018 at 14:37.
Since you and I are only ones actively posting on this thread, I recommend starting a new thread with your questions and concerns.
*Looks over shoulder as lordsmurf will suddenly appear and post here*