Last Windows 10 Update (April 2018) - MEGUI doesn't start anymore.

[Cunhambebe]

Hi there,
I had MEGUI installed here and working properly untill W10 installed the last April 2018 update (uptaded here, on May, the 19th).
After the update process, MEGUI does not start anymore (version 2828). I says MEGUI encountered a fatal error and my not be able to proceed - external component exception.

So I've decided to install version 2836 (the last one). Same thing happened. It didn't start either.

Now the questions:
1. Do I uninstal w10 last update?
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2. Do I wait for a fix on MEGUI?
Thanks in advance.

[leonsk]

So I've decided to install version 2836 (the last one). Same thing happened. It didn't start either.

I know nothing about this problem because I don't have W10 to test this, but the version of MeGUI I'm using right now is 2855 so that's not the last one. Maybe you could update MeGUI, and see if it works. Sorry I can't help more.

EDIT: Forgot to mention I'm using the development update server.

[Cunhambebe]

Thanks so much. Anyone else? Please?

[TimA-C]

MeGUI seems to be working fine here on Win10 x64 v1803 . . . ? Maybe try uninstalling all installed versions on youir system, manually remove any obvious MeGUI entries in the registry, reboot, reinstall latest version? I don't know what internet security you're running, but maybe unplug/disconnect from internet and disable any security whilst installing? Many security programs let you mark a program as being 'Trusted' (or not) maybe yours is being a little overzealous? Good luck.

[amaipaipai]

MeGUI is working just fine here too, Win10 x64 v1803.
Please be aware that it might need to install some old .NET runtime.

[Cunhambebe]

Thanks to both of you for taking time to respond.
TimA-C: I've tried to uninstall w10 update version 1803. Same thing happened. Then I've installed 1803 again. Same thing. Finally I've installed MEGUI 64 2836. It runs, I can encode audio as AAC but video served from Vegas through DebugMode is not working. It says there's a problem with fourcc DFSC decoder.
I am really disappointed with Microsoft, because before the update everything was working fine. Maybe if I wait for a new MeGUI update. What a pitty since it is an excellent piece of software. Anyway, I'll try what you have suggested. Just in time: I don't have any antivirus here but W Defender. Thanks for your help!

Just one more thing: MeGUI is PORTABLE. There are no registry entries.

amaipaipai: you've said: be aware that it might need to install some old .NET runtime.
Question: Which one of them?
Thanks in advance.

[amaipaipai]

Microsoft has nothing to do with this, the main issue here is that MeGUI and other programs are been compiled with old Visual Studio versions and they need to update the code sometimes to compile properly. The last Windows 10 comes with the last .Net Framework that are incompatible with older versions, old code are dropped for the new updated ones, same happens with linux and programs build with older glibc not compiling with a new one.

About the x86 and x64 thing, you need to install x86 versions for x86 programs and do the same for the x64 ones.


As you can see I need all that old crap to run some old programs, and every time you get this "fatal error" is because one in this list are missing.

[TimA-C]

Ah . . . I actually meant uninstall MeGUI not the Windows update . . . but OK. I hadn't actually registered that MeGUI is portable as I've never had issues with it. Tidying the registry is just a good thing to try when software fails to work or install properly, but thanks for embarrassing me like that!

Yeah. I'm pretty fed up with MS as well over their cr&ppy 1803 "update". It's gone OK on 3 machines here but I've spent Many hours over this last weekend trying to get it to work on another. PAH! Oh well, hopefully MS and/or MeGUI will release a fix soon. Good Luck.

[Cunhambebe]

Well, thanks again for taking time to respond.
amaipaipai: I understand. BTW, where did you get that screen? Thanks in advance.
Here's what I've got:
Some of them are 64x and some are x86. As you can see, everything seems to be OK.
Anyway, my friend has just updated w10 and MeGUI works fine there. I really don't know what the problem is. Maybe because I have installed Huffyuv, maybe your solution, maybe a Codec that is missing causing the error: EXTERNAL COMPONENT EXCEPTION. BTW, VirtualDubMod opens the setup screen, but it doesn't run either.


EDITED: As you can see on the list, the file right above shows that the version of Visual C++ 2015 is missing. I've just donwloaded the versions x86 and x64 from Microsoft. Should I install them? Thanks

TimA-C: You've said.. "but thanks for embarrassing me like that!" - I really didn't mean any harm.

As you can read it right above, same thing didn't happen with my friend tonight. He updated w10 and on his pc, MeGUI works fine.

It is so disappointing to get to know that my computer was working, everyting was OK and nowwwww, right after the update all these problems arose. Feeling bad here because I don't wanna install everything again...
Anyway, MeGUi 2836 x64 woks partially. I can encode audio there using Nero AAC, but the video doesn't encode at all. It says there's a problem with a Fourcc something.
I Hope I can find a solution for this.
Microsoft... hum

Thanks again.

[amaipaipai]

amaipaipai: I understand. BTW, where did you get that screen? Thanks in advance.

Advanced Uninstaller Pro.

Anyway, MeGUi 2836 x64 woks partially. I can encode audio there using Nero AAC, but the video doesn't encode at all. It says there's a problem with a Fourcc something.
I Hope I can find a solution for this.

I don't know what you are doing, maybe you need this? It has the DFSC codec.
https://github.com/satishsampath/frame-server

Why are you using the worse outdated AAC encoder? This tool is no longer developed or maintained by Nero.
According to HydrogenAudio QAAC offers the best AAC quality and it use the QuickTime Engine[1][2][3][4][5]

Also, your video encoder might need something else to work, google for a program named dependency walker, it will show you if you are missing something.

[Cunhambebe]

Thanks so much for taking time to respond.
Satish's FrameServer is already installed. I'll uninstall and reinstall it again. That might do the trick.
Let me try your suggestion on downloading dependency walker before installing C++ 2015. Thank you very much for the links -as well as for everything!
Cheers,
Mark

PS: thanks also for the hint on QAAC for best quality and using the QuickTime Engine.

[Cunhambebe]

Hi there.
amaipaipai, here are the results for what dependency walker says repectively for VirtualDubMod; MEGUI 2036 x32 and MEGUI 2036 x64. So I guess when w10 update was installed here, something wrong happened since those proggies were working fine. So, do you have any idea? Thanks in advance.

VDMod:

MEGUI 2836 x32:

MEGUI 2836 x64:

[TimA-C]

TimA-C: You've said.. "but thanks for embarrassing me like that!" - I really didn't mean any harm.

Don't worry, my tongue was very firmly in my cheek when I wrote that.

I think you're just going to have to accept that your system has gotten a bit screwed up, and that you're probably going to have to re-install/re-configure a lot of the video related codecs and utils to get everything running again. A right P.I.T.A. to be sure (and I'd let MS know your displeasure via the feedback hub) but probably the quickest way to (hopefully) get back up and running again. I guess my next step (if you haven't already done it) would be to go through the various packages you use with MeGUI and uninstall/delete them and then let MeGUI re-download & install them. Hopefully whatever was broken will be fixed. (Don't forget to make backups and save settings etc. as required.) Good luck.

[leonsk]

A few versions back MeGUI shipped its dependencies with itself, but they're all gone in the recent version (2858).
Maybe you could try to find that version, and with some hope it'd work.

2837 [Updater]              redist files are only copied if not installed
                            added information which redist packages are installed to the log

Maybe before this version.

[Cunhambebe]

Hi.

I think you're just going to have to accept that your system has gotten a bit screwed up, and that you're probably going to have to re-install/re-configure a lot of the video related codecs and utils to get everything running again.

Oh, no! You must be kidding. Reinstall everyting?
Thanks, TimA-C; for taking time to respond.

leonsk: Thanks for the suggestion. I'll do that. Let's see if it works. Anyway I don't like to be in the field of simple guess, maybe (I've said maybe) I'll reinstall everything.
Just one more thing, you've said MeGUI 2837? Well, I guess last version is 2836.
Thanks again.
I am so dissapointed.

[amaipaipai]

Hi there.
amaipaipai, here are the results for what dependency walker says repectively for VirtualDubMod; MEGUI 2036 x32 and MEGUI 2036 x64. So I guess when w10 update was installed here, something wrong happened since those proggies were working fine. So, do you have any idea? Thanks in advance.

Collapse all that (CTRL+W), ignore that KERNEL and other stuff, click on the "+" sign until you see something like this:



If there are something missing, you'll see the missing DLL in red on the left like msvcp140.dll, msvcr100.dll, vcruntime140.dll, etc. Please be aware that dependency walker x86 will deal only with x86 programs, same for x64!


About Windows.
We are well aware that updating windows to a new version is a mess, it breaks everything!
I'm using Windows 10 1803 but I downloaded the ISO and did a fresh install formating my HDD.


I don't know what "reinstall everything" means, I use a tool named NTLite so I can customize Windows specific for my PC with chipset drivers, video, sound, you name it. It's possible to pre-install programs also, but don't go crazy with it, this can create a overloaded and unstable version of Windows. Over here a create a basic image with my motherboard info, download site and all the drivers I need. After I finish with it, I create another image with Acronis True Image. if something happens I can restore my computer in less than 5 minutes, you can also create small incremental backups with all your programs.

[Cunhambebe]

Hi amaipaipai.

If there are something missing, you'll see the missing DLL in red on the left like msvcp140.dll, msvcr100.dll, vcruntime140.dll, etc. Please be aware that dependency walker x86 will deal only with x86 programs, same for x64!

Then, please?

I don't know what "reinstall everything" means

Sorry, that means w10 and all my apps.

About your information on C++ (remember?), my friend next door updated his w10 OS 2 days ago and it was all OK. I've looked on his apps foler and he has C++ up to 2015. My system shows 2017 but there's no 2015 (I've posted a screen around here). When trying to intall it, a warn sign popped up: impossible to install a previous version if it's already installed an updated version. So, according to what you've said here, I'm thinking about uninstalling C++ 2017 and trying to reinstall C++ 2015 version. What do ou think, please? Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Mark.

[amaipaipai]

Then, please?

You look for it over the internet.

About your information on C++ (remember?), my friend next door updated his w10 OS 2 days ago and it was all OK. I've looked on his apps foler and he has C++ up to 2015. My system shows 2017 but there's no 2015 (I've posted a screen around here). When trying to intall it, a warn sign popped up: impossible to install a previous version if it's already installed an updated version. So, according to what you've said here, I'm thinking about uninstalling C++ 2017 and trying to reinstall C++ 2015 version. What do ou think, please? Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Mark.

If it came with 2017 don't mess with it, the files you need are exactly only the ones you see on my screenshot, nothing else. Respect the x86 and x64 ones.
Remember that a updated system is one thing and installing from scratch is another, in general updated ones gives you trouble.

[Cunhambebe]

Hi,
aimaipaipai:

You look for it over the internet.

Sorry for this comment, but I don't have any idea of what to do.

If it came with 2017 don't mess with it, the files you need are exactly only the ones you see on my screenshot, nothing else.

So I guess you mean, I have to uninstall C++ 2017? Is that right?

Remember that a updated system is one thing and installing from scratch is another, in general updated ones gives you trouble.

So as you can see, it was not my fault. Blame it on MIcrosoft and what they've done to millions of PCs around the world with that infamous April update. Even updating again to KB4100403 haven't fixed the problem here.

TimA-C: Sorry I forgot to comment on what you've said:

Don't worry, my tongue was very firmly in my cheek when I wrote that.

LOL LOL LOL - That was funny!
Cheers, my friend.

[TimA-C]

. Doesn't MeGUI show you all the other utils that it uses and the versions installed etc.? Surely by re-installing each of those you *should* repair whatever the Windows update broke?

I'm not sure, but I seem to remember that some issues with Win10 and some video utils were fixed by re-installing DirectX 9c from June 2010? Hopefully someone with a better memory than me will be able to confirm that or embarrass me again by calling BS on that idea!

[amaipaipai]

So I guess you mean, I have to uninstall C++ 2017? Is that right?

If it came with the OS, do not mess with it, do not uninstall it, this is not the cause of your problems and you can make matters worse.

So as you can see, it was not my fault. Blame it on MIcrosoft and what they've done to millions of PCs around the world with that infamous April update. Even updating again to KB4100403 haven't fixed the problem here.

Again, Microsoft is not to blame here, the main issue is the process. A upgrade never worked and never will, people that uses Linux knows all about it, I'm a Linux user by the way. If you use Ubuntu A and want to upgrade to a new version B, you can do a system upgrade, it might work (somehow) by soon or latter you'll format and install from scratch because the internal parts that make the engine work - I'm talking about the kernel - is different from version to version among other thinks, like the parts necessary to make that engine run.

Are you using a pirate version of Windows?
If you are, sorry, there is nothing we can do.

If you are not, all you have to do is to download the last Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft and install it from scratch with a valid serial number, after that, all you need to install are the "C++" versions listed on that screenshot and you are good to go.

[Cunhambebe]

TimA-C

Hopefully someone with a better memory than me will be able to confirm that or embarrass me again by calling BS on that idea!

Thanks for taking time to respond Buddy. Yes, MeGui shows what you've said on utils etc. I'll try to update them. Thanks again for the hint on this.

aimaipaipai: No, my w10 version is original.

If you are not, all you have to do is to download the last Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft and install it from scratch with a valid serial number, after that, all you need to install are the "C++" versions listed on that screenshot and you are good to go.

I'll try to do that. But since I am a lawyer, I'll have to reintall all those local apps for Courthouses, since everyting here is digital, no paper anymore. Every single petition and document is PDF now.
That's why I'm disappointed to reinstall everything. Anyway, thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Mark

[amaipaipai]

I'll try to do that. But since I am a lawyer, I'll have to reintall all those local apps for Courthouses, since everyting here is digital, no paper anymore. Every single petition and document is PDF now.
That's why I'm disappointed to reinstall everything. Anyway, thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Mark

Tell me about it, the law here in Brazil is a pain, so damn slow and so annoying. I'm involved in a case of corruption, mafia and money laundry with proof, audio recording and everything, showing that the guy paid half a million Reais to a judge to buy a case, my lawyer said:
- He is joking, c'mon!

Anyway.
I recommend that you keep a spare computer or laptop for your mainly job and another to play with videos, just to be safe because I've saw so many things going wrong with digital certificates, JRE for online banking and stuff.

Have a good one!

[Cunhambebe]

aimaipaipai

Tell me about it, the law here in Brazil is a pain, so damn slow and so annoying. I'm involved in a case of corruption, mafia and money laundry with proof, audio recording and everything, showing that the guy paid half a million Reais to a judge to buy a case, my lawyer said:
- He is joking, c'mon!

So I suppose you live in Brazil and speak Brazilian Softened Portuguese. The world of today is complicating. We are really tired of news of corruption and presidents who do and say whatevert they want using tweeter or other public networks, if you understand what I mean. I believe a new order my arise out of all those news and what's happening now. Other countries too do have the same problem. But things are more covered up there. We are tired of paying for the government and receiving nothing back. "The Digital System" used in Justice, Bankig and Elections in Brazil is a good example to be followed by many countries, but "some people" who get elected here are not since they favor external influences and not what is good for their people and the country. And as always, more powerful countries do have a strong influence in all of this, and particularly on what happened since last president's impeachment (Internatinal Bank created by the B.R.I.C.s, Pretrobras oil reservers and Brazilian regional influence on L America). Clearly someone up there, somewhere is involved in this soft coup (last president's impeachment), because there's no more internationial bank created by the BRICs, no more reserves of oil only for Petrobras because some of them were sold to external enterprises for 1 cent a barrel, and no more regional influence. LOL. Well, sorry, I guess this responds your remark, even though is not a subject matter related to video.

I recommend that you keep a spare computer or laptop for your mainly job and another to play with videos, just to be safe because I've saw so many things going wrong with digital certificates, JRE for online banking and stuff.

Never had a single problem before. Digital Certificates are Safe ad due to what Microsoft does, they had to change one of their updates a few months before, since it made those certificates stop working. So yes, we can blame it on Microsoft. Besides I use a SSD small enough for the OS, the rest are on other drives. But it's a P.I.T.A. to reinstall the system and the network of certificates. Thanks

[amaipaipai]

Never had a single problem before. Digital Certificates are Safe ad due to what Microsoft does, they had to change one of their updates a few months before, since it made those certificates stop working. So yes, we can blame it on Microsoft. Besides I use a SSD small enough for the OS, the rest are on other drives. But it's a P.I.T.A. to reinstall the system and the network of certificates. Thanks

Esaj or @-Saj?
I don't trust it, we did the servers for "Ministério de Justiça do Estado de São Paulo" among PRODESP and boy, we have story to tell.

[Cunhambebe]

aimaipaipai
Hi there.
I use ESAJ and the other one for Federal Courthouses. Maybe you can write something PV and help me solve all this stuff.
Cheers,
Mark
PS: please PM me.

[leonsk]

Hi.

I think you're just going to have to accept that your system has gotten a bit screwed up, and that you're probably going to have to re-install/re-configure a lot of the video related codecs and utils to get everything running again.

Oh, no! You must be kidding. Reinstall everyting?
Thanks, TimA-C; for taking time to respond.

leonsk: Thanks for the suggestion. I'll do that. Let's see if it works. Anyway I don't like to be in the field of simple guess, maybe (I've said maybe) I'll reinstall everything.
Just one more thing, you've said MeGUI 2837? Well, I guess last version is 2836.
Thanks again.
I am so dissapointed.

Seems like you didn't read my first post (#2) carefully. That's the last stable release, the latest version right now is 2859, that is, if you set the update server to "Use the development update server" under Options>Settings>Extra Configuration.
Anyway you can get the previous releases from here, or you can download redistxxxx.7z package, unzip it where MeGUI.exe is and see if it works. Either this or try reinstalling Windows which will be more likely to fix your problem, it's up to you.

[Cunhambebe]

leonsk: Thanks for taking time to respond.
I did what you said right up here. MEGUI starts, encodes, but showing other screens before. There's sound but no video at all.
Cheers,
Mark

[amaipaipai]

What video format are you encoding with?
X264? X265? MPEG2? Xvid?

[leonsk]

@Cunhambebe

What exactly did you do ? Updated to the latest development release ? or downloaded another release from the link ? or put the redists in MeGUI folder ?
What do you mean by "showing other screens before" ? Maybe you could provide screenshots ?
You load a video, encode, and when you play it there's only sound ? or it just encodes the audio ?