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    How to burn 4k movies

    Step 1
    Open imageburn and select following

    create image file from files / folders
    select file

    Step 2
    Tick auto which is near calculator
    Browse for folder
    Select folder
    Then the following will appear

    Click yes and this will adjust everything to suit a disc burn
    Go to options make sure following

    Select destination and save as ISO file

    Then this screen will appear

    Click yes

    Then final screen will appear

    Click ok.

    Then iso file will be created

    Burning Process
    Open Imgburn
    Select following

    Then select a file
    Which will open up and look for file
    Select iso file that was created using imageburn
    Make sure write speed as it 2x
    Close down antivirus software and all other programs
    Disable primary bd drive and use USB external bluray burner
    Tick on verify to make sure disc burns
    Screen should look like this

    This should then burn disc.

    Last burn notes

    I 16:02:44 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
    I 16:02:44 Microsoft Windows 8 Core x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200)
    I 16:02:44 Total Physical Memory: 16,713,284 KiB - Available: 13,563,640 KiB
    I 16:02:44 Initialising SPTI...
    I 16:02:44 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
    I 16:02:45 -> Drive 1 - Info: ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.00 (F (USB 2.0)
    I 16:02:45 Found 1 BD-RE XL!
    I 16:04:53 Operation Started!
    I 16:04:53 Source File: D:\ISO\The.Running.Man.1987.2160p.BluRay.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.7.1-TASTED.iso
    I 16:04:53 Source File Sectors: 34,930,752 (MODE1/2048)
    I 16:04:53 Source File Size: 71,538,180,096 bytes
    I 16:04:53 Source File Volume Identifier: The.Running.Man.1987.2160p.BluRay.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.7.1-TASTED
    I 16:04:53 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 535B735C0214FFD6
    I 16:04:53 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
    I 16:04:53 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
    I 16:04:53 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.60)
    I 16:04:53 Destination Device: [0:0:0] ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.00 (F (USB)
    I 16:04:53 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMk-000)
    I 16:04:53 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
    I 16:04:53 Destination Media Sectors: 48,878,592
    I 16:04:53 Write Mode: BD
    I 16:04:53 Write Type: DAO
    I 16:04:53 Write Speed: 2x
    I 16:04:53 Hardware Defect Management Active: No
    I 16:04:53 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes
    I 16:04:53 Link Size: Auto
    I 16:04:53 Lock Volume: Yes
    I 16:04:53 Test Mode: No
    I 16:04:54 OPC: No
    I 16:04:54 BURN-Proof: Enabled
    I 16:04:54 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,992 KB/s (2x)
    I 16:05:57 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
    I 16:05:58 Writing LeadIn...
    I 16:06:08 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 34930751)
    I 16:06:08 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 34930751)
    I 18:14:54 Synchronising Cache...
    I 18:14:56 Closing Track...
    I 18:14:57 Finalising Disc...
    I 18:15:58 Exporting Graph Data...
    I 18:15:58 Graph Data File: C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ASUS_BW-16D1HT_3.00_WEDNESDAY-27-OCTOBER-2021_4-04_PM_VERBAT-IMk-000_2x.ibg
    I 18:15:58 Export Successfully Completed!
    I 18:15:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 02:11:04
    I 18:15:58 Average Write Rate: 9,042 KiB/s (2.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 9,186 KiB/s (2.1x)
    I 18:15:58 Cycling Tray before Verify...
    W 18:16:04 Waiting for device to become ready...
    I 18:16:21 Device Ready!
    I 18:16:38 Operation Started!
    I 18:16:38 Source Device: [0:0:0] ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.00 (F (USB)
    I 18:16:38 Source Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMk-000)
    I 18:16:38 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 2x, 5x, 6x
    I 18:16:38 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x
    I 18:16:38 Source Media Sectors: 34,930,752
    I 18:16:38 Source Media Size: 71,538,180,096 bytes
    I 18:16:38 Image File: D:\ISO\The.Running.Man.1987.2160p.BluRay.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.7.1-TASTED.iso
    I 18:16:38 Image File Sectors: 34,930,752 (MODE1/2048)
    I 18:16:38 Image File Size: 71,538,180,096 bytes
    I 18:16:38 Image File Volume Identifier: The.Running.Man.1987.2160p.BluRay.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.7.1-TASTED
    I 18:16:38 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 535B735C0214FFD6
    I 18:16:38 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
    I 18:16:38 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
    I 18:16:38 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.60)
    I 18:16:38 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
    I 18:16:39 Read Speed - Effective: 2x - 6x, 6x - 2x
    I 18:16:39 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 34930751)
    I 18:16:39 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 34930751)
    I 19:20:34 Exporting Graph Data...
    I 19:20:34 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Dave Unwin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ASUS_BW-16D1HT_3.00_WEDNESDAY-27-OCTOBER-2021_4-04_PM_VERBAT-IMk-000_2x.ibg
    I 19:20:34 Export Successfully Completed!
    I 19:20:34 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:03:54
    I 19:20:34 Average Verify Rate: 18,226 KiB/s (4.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 26,707 KiB/s (6.1x)
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    tried again doing another one
    used same function
    tried on 3 different machines doesnt work
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    still no update on correct converting or burning process.
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    Originally Posted by Kadu7475 View Post
    still no update on correct converting or burning process.
    do the burned BDXL discs play ok in your PC ??
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    Yes they do

    just won't play on uhd player
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    Kadu7475,
    i will write step by step instruction of what i'm doing in a few hours when i get of work.
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    thanks rick
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    HI Rick

    any updates on the creating iso and burning process please

    cheers

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    Yes i'm sorry i had a lot of work lately but i will write a small guide today or tomorrow
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    Hey Rick any updates please
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    any updates Rick please
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    anyone got any updates on new players that work BDXL.
    surely this problem can be solved somehow.
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    Rick can i please get those instructions.
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    Looks like this forum is now finished. Haven't heard from Rick and think that there is now way to make perfect copies of 4k with BDXL until a player comes out that will play everything and I am not holding my breath for it. bye
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    Hi there,

    I already have a Sony player reading correctly first two layers, wich is fine for me as most of the films I'm interested in are two layer discs. The problem comes with two particular films I'm interested in, but covering all three layers. I then use DVDFab to convert the contents to a two layer disc, and then I burn it using IMGBURN. My Sony player plays them fine, but when entering the proper film, there is no image, just sound. It happens with both films. What am I doing wrong? It's getting very frustrating as discs are very expensive to be wasting them.

    Best regards!
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  16. I have over 60 terabytes of movie data (the entire deleted catalog) burned to 100GB and 128GB BDXL discs. I have found that the best way to play these movies on my TV is by plugging in an external blu-ray drive (I am using Pioneer BDR-XS07 drive) to a Nvidia Shield TV Pro using a Y-cable (needs both USB ports to properly power the external drive) and hooking the Shield TV Pro to my TV via HDMI.

    To access the content of the discs, you will need an application called 'MLUSB Mounter' as well as the 'UDF/ISO Mount' extension (costs like $2.50) for it. There are many media players for Android that you can use, but I personally use MX Player/MX Player Pro, and VLC.

    Technically this method should work with any modern Android box with USB-A ports but I can personally vouch for the Nvidia Shield TV Pro. I also have a Samsung tablet with MLUSB installed that I use to read files on burned discs and playback my 35,000+ movie collection.
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    So after months and months and countless hours trying to get this to work I can say only the sony will take 60gb disc only. this myth about a burn process with an external usb drive and it will play on any machine is an urban legend false doesn't work. I would say we will never see a 4k player that will play any type of burnt BDXL disc.

    I have given up moved on. have blank disc and an external usb case with burner for sale pm me if interested.
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    Understandable, I got the right burner, enclosure, spent a lot of money on discs and got the Panasonic player. All in an attempt to burn a 52gb 4k file so it would play as a disc. I tried it all as well but every burned disc either didn't play at all or if it did, stuttered like crazy.

    I gave up months ago. Bought a small external ssd and the files play flawlessly via the Panasonic's USB port. It's not the same but much less hassle.
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    The disc era is gone, I myself burned a lot of BD-R and BD-R DL back in the day from HD Blu-ray titles just to find myself backing them up back to HDD, Now I got tons of 1:1 copies on BD-R's and BD-R DL's and have no use for them, They will eventually get dumped in the trash one day when I decide to let go off of them.
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  20. Originally Posted by dellsam34 View Post
    The disc era is gone, I myself burned a lot of BD-R and BD-R DL back in the day from HD Blu-ray titles just to find myself backing them up back to HDD, Now I got tons of 1:1 copies on BD-R's and BD-R DL's and have no use for them, They will eventually get dumped in the trash one day when I decide to let go off of them.
    Maybe, but there are still some of us who like have the feel of a disc.
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    For what it's worth, although the Blu-ray Disc Association released the initial spec for UHD Blu-ray on pressed discs in 2015, it has not yet amended the UHD Blu-ray spec to cover UHD Blu-ray on burned media.
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  22. Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    For what it's worth, although the Blu-ray Disc Association released the initial spec for UHD Blu-ray on pressed discs in 2015, it has not yet amended the UHD Blu-ray spec to cover UHD Blu-ray on burned media.
    Thanks! This gets to the very heart of the matter.
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    Which is why I mentioned it back in post #326 months ago.

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    Which is why I mentioned it back in post #326 months ago.

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    Yes, but it was easier for me to repeat the same information than to make the effort to find your post.

    [Edit]I forgot that there was also an earlier post by me in this thread as well, #139, made in 2019. ...but #326 is more informative.
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  25. Originally Posted by Kadu7475 View Post
    anyone got any updates on new players that work BDXL.
    surely this problem can be solved somehow.
    Hello Kadu7475б

    I can't provide you with instructions for burning BDXL (I burn them via ImgBurn), but what I can tell you for sure is that both 3-layer and 4-layer BDXL discs can be read (and this is stated in its data sheet and instructions for use) Panasonic DP-UB 9000 (Limited Edition Japan) https://panasonic.jp/bdplayer/products/ub9000.html

    Before purchasing this player, I had a Panasonic DP-UB 900, I bought it in the UK. This player read all without exception recorded by me BDXL on three layers. I have not tried to play four-layer discs on it.

    This is what I can say from my own experience.
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  26. Curious why the 4k UHD disc iso write to bdxl doesn't work on 4k player? Is that due to the 4k UHD disc format different to BDXL, or the encryption?
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    Originally Posted by truelies View Post
    Curious why the 4k UHD disc iso write to bdxl doesn't work on 4k player? Is that due to the 4k UHD disc format different to BDXL, or the encryption?
    If the contents of the ISO are still encrypted, that would prevent playback. Some decryption keys are stored in a location on the original disc that can be read by Blu-ray drives but, by design, Blu-ray burners can't write to that location on writable media.

    Otherwise, the explanation is here: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/388243-BluRay-Player-with-BDXL-Support/page11#post2634730
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    I would *love* a BDXL player. I know everyone uses external hard drives now, but those can fail, where if an optical disc is stored properly, it will be fine extremely long term as it's non mechanical!

    So I'm looking at the Panasonic DP-UB9000, but I understand while some say this will work on three layer BDXL, others say it may work sometimes, and other times not.

    Playing back a burned copy would also need Cinavia detection disabled, and I have 4K discs from other countries, so I would need it to be region free as well. The only site I could find offers anything like this for the DP-UB9000 via custom firmware: RegionFreedom.com. Anyone have any experience with this? To get the firmware they ask for a "monetary contribution" and it's completely blank as to how much you should "contribute". This is actually looking scary to me because it looks and feels very much like the old "soup nazi" site firmwareinfo.com. The person that ran that was crazy and treated anyone wanting a custom firmware like garbage. For example you had to jump through a million hoops and if you did the slightest thing wrong he would ban you from the site. If you asked for firmware for more than one player it would be an instant ban; he didn't seem to care in the slightest about making any money. So I think it's probably a no go!

    Anyways, it would be really nice to have a BDXL / UltraHD solution... I think we were spoiled since BD-ROM and BD-R/BD-R DL just worked on any player (until Cinavia anyways).

    Has anyone tried to connect a BDXL drive via USB to an M9205? If the drive appears to the M9205 as an external drive with a UHD folder structure, what's the difference between that and an external HD with a UHD folder structure? It should work, no?
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    Originally Posted by rick090 View Post
    But I got Oppo-203 and my Imgburn method is working perfectly on it. With 66Gb and 100GB discs.
    Burner connected to USB 2.0 Port (a usb 2.0 controller is preffered also), Verbatim BDXL (Mdisc or regular), Imgburn UDF 2.6. works greate 95% of the times.
    This is interesting, but, I suspect "Burner connected to USB 2.0 Port" means a port on a computer, and he's sharing the drive or folder, and playing the content over the network. I've heard this method works on a number of different players.

    But I think we're really looking for single box solution.
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    Originally Posted by Corvius View Post
    I would *love* a BDXL player. I know everyone uses external hard drives now, but those can fail, where if an optical disc is stored properly, it will be fine extremely long term as it's non mechanical!

    So I'm looking at the Panasonic DP-UB9000, but I understand while some say this will work on three layer BDXL, others say it may work sometimes, and other times not.

    Playing back a burned copy would also need Cinavia detection disabled, and I have 4K discs from other countries, so I would need it to be region free as well. The only site I could find offers anything like this for the DP-UB9000 via custom firmware: RegionFreedom.com. Anyone have any experience with this? To get the firmware they ask for a "monetary contribution" and it's completely blank as to how much you should "contribute".

    Anyways, it would be really nice to have a BDXL / UltraHD solution... I think we were spoiled since BD-ROM and BD-R/BD-R DL just worked on any player (until Cinavia anyways).

    Has anyone tried to connect a BDXL drive via USB to an M9205? If the drive appears to the M9205 as an external drive with a UHD folder structure, what's the difference between that and an external HD with a UHD folder structure? It should work, no?
    I'm using DP-UB9000 with regionfreedom firmware. It works great, the minimal donation is 40€, yet this team is not really responsive if you want to speak to them about anything. All you can do is get this region free firmware for 40€, and you need to be quick sending money as otherwise, they cancel transaction.

    Firmware works great concerning multi-region support, but concerning BDXL nothing is improved. In my testing, burned 4K UHD works only on 25 GB disc, so it's not that usable.
    The player recognizes also DL (50GB) discs but plays them too slow (I assume it uses fixed x1 reading speed, which is fine for regular blu-rays), and occasionally image stutters. BDXL (100GB) discs are not recognized at all.

    I've tried to contact regionfreedom about that, even offering an extra donation, to possibly look into that issue, yet I received no response.
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