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    Originally Posted by Bravvv View Post
    Hi, to recap :

    Pana UB450 can read BDXL 3x layer with a burner ASUS 16D1HT connected in USB ?
    Yes it can. i believe it will work the same with other burners, such as LG. i think that USB and slow burning speed do something to the writing process.
    waiting to others to try and respond
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    Originally Posted by rick090 View Post
    A Little update
    All my previous BDXL Burnings were using LG WH16NS40 Burner connected to SATA on motherboards. since i have experienced some cases of layer break freezes on BD-50 as well (weird i know) i have investigated a little. i got an older BD Burner (Pioneer) connected to USB that doesn't support BDXL but burn my BD-50's perfectly. i have bought a third burner, the ASUS 16D1HT which i herd is a very good BDXL burner. i have connected it throgh USB (Externaly) and not SATA (Internaly) and i burnes 2 BDXL discs at x2 speed. those disc played perfectly from begining to end through my Oppo 203 and for the first time EVER were played with my new Panasonic UB-450, That have never played any of my BDXL burning before.
    I really don't know why it's working better through USB but it did, so i wanted to share
    I am using the same drive on USB (macOS requirement) and never had any problem with 25 and 50G discs. However, BDXL discs don’t work on my Panasonic UB-820 and PS5. Everything else works on both machines. I am considering buying a Panasonic 450. However, these machines are classed in zone B for Blu-ray usage. So, I assume the burnt disc was either a UHD or a zone free one. Am I right? And, where did you buy your unit? I can only find them in UK.

    Thanks in advance.
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    I got my UB-450 on amazon UK.
    Panasonic UB820 and all previous Panasonic models from 2018 (all UB-x20), PS5, XBOX Series X/One S/One X, All known to NOT support BDXL At all.
    Only newer models from Panasonic, UB-x50 is working apparently. Also models from Sony i think (not PS5).
    Oppo 203 will read even a newspaper if burned properly
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    I knew. But I had to try.

    The Panasonic UB450 has been ordered. As soon as I get it, I will make a try.

    Do I need a voltage converter or a native plug adapter to connect this player to an electric outlet?
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    it depends on your location. i got mine with EU plug (the big one) and i had to buy a converter.
    when you get the unit try discs that been burned at x2 with USB connected drive. i used a SATA to USB controller from external HDD Enclosure. it's USB3 but i think it will also work good with USB2.
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    A Little update
    All my previous BDXL Burnings were using LG WH16NS40 Burner connected to SATA on motherboards. since i have experienced some cases of layer break freezes on BD-50 as well (weird i know) i have investigated a little. i got an older BD Burner (Pioneer) connected to USB that doesn't support BDXL but burn my BD-50's perfectly. i have bought a third burner, the ASUS 16D1HT which i herd is a very good BDXL burner. i have connected it throgh USB (Externaly) and not SATA (Internaly) and i burnes 2 BDXL discs at x2 speed. those disc played perfectly from begining to end through my Oppo 203 and for the first time EVER were played with my new Panasonic UB-450, That have never played any of my BDXL burning before.
    I really don't know why it's working better through USB but it did, so i wanted to share


    Hey Rick090

    do you have step by step instructions on how to get this to work properly

    I have the Asus BW-16D1HT burner and the oppo 203 and panasonic UB450 machine

    do you need to use certain BDXL discs.

    how long does the burn take

    message me if you like.

    thanks mate

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    Originally Posted by rick090 View Post
    it depends on your location. i got mine with EU plug (the big one) and i had to buy a converter.
    when you get the unit try discs that been burned at x2 with USB connected drive. i used a SATA to USB controller from external HDD Enclosure. it's USB3 but i think it will also work good with USB2.
    The big plug is a "G" type, I believe. I am in North America. I will look for a converter.

    I can't do anything else than USB because I am on macOS. Recent Apple machines don't have a reader/burner. So, I must use a burner connected with USB at all times with macOS and Windows programs. Never had any problem with 25G and 50G. I burned some BDXL. I can't wait to try them on the 450.
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    Originally Posted by Kadu7475 View Post
    Hey Rick090

    do you have step by step instructions on how to get this to work properly

    I have the Asus BW-16D1HT burner and the oppo 203 and panasonic UB450 machine

    do you need to use certain BDXL discs.

    how long does the burn take

    message me if you like.

    thanks mate

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    How you doing mate ?
    Well, as i said before, i used my ASUS 16D1HT Burner, connected to PC through USB Port Externally. I Have made an ISO Image with Imgburn and burned that image also with Imgburn. I Used BDXL MDISC from Verbatim and burned at x2 speed. the burning process take more than 2 hours. i will order some non MDISC BDXL's and also try on those, they are cheaper half price. 41GBP for 10 psc is a great price vs more than 60GBP for 5 pcs for MDISC.
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    I have bought the Panasonic DP-UB150, just burned a BR-R XL with 60Gbs, and it doesn't read it. The firmware is 1.15. I have tried to downgrade to 1.09, but it is not possible on this player. So, impossible with my unit. Weird...
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    And finally, things happen when you really don't expect them to... I bought the Panasonic unit because I saw here someone saying it was working. I had a nearly new LG UBK80 I thought it was unable to deal with those discs. After returning it to my TV, and testing it, you know, just in case, it worked smoothly. I have seen the entire movie passing throught chapters, and to my surprise, it is working as if the disc was original. Again, it is completely impossible to guess why sometimes it works with some units, and why with the same unit, it does not work for some others. Weird, weird...
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    Originally Posted by Kadu7475 View Post
    Hey Rick090

    do you have step by step instructions on how to get this to work properly

    I have the Asus BW-16D1HT burner and the oppo 203 and panasonic UB450 machine

    do you need to use certain BDXL discs.

    how long does the burn take

    message me if you like.

    thanks mate

    Kadu
    How you doing mate ?
    Well, as i said before, i used my ASUS 16D1HT Burner, connected to PC through USB Port Externally. I Have made an ISO Image with Imgburn and burned that image also with Imgburn. I Used BDXL MDISC from Verbatim and burned at x2 speed. the burning process take more than 2 hours. i will order some non MDISC BDXL's and also try on those, they are cheaper half price. 41GBP for 10 psc is a great price vs more than 60GBP for 5 pcs for MDISC.

    Hey Rick

    with the bluray drive did you put it inside a portable casing connect via sat and then via power then connect via usb

    similar to how a powered portable hard drive works.

    also did you make any changes to the burn process with image burn

    cheers
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    Originally Posted by Kadu7475 View Post
    Hey Rick

    with the bluray drive did you put it inside a portable casing connect via sat and then via power then connect via usb

    similar to how a powered portable hard drive works.

    also did you make any changes to the burn process with image burn

    cheers
    Well i have used a controller from external 3.5" hard drive enclosure. it is sata to usb with power cord. don't use a 2.5" enclosure, those don't have external power cord and you can't supply power to the Burner with USB alone.
    the burning process is the normal stuff. x2 speed, burning from ISO Image and use imgburn software.

    ernnnn, did you burn your BDXL Through USB Connected burner or internal SATA?
    The UB-150 is basically the same as UB-450 and should Behave the same.
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    Hey Rick

    will something like this work

    2.5/3.5 inch SATA External USB 3.0 Hard Drive Enclosure Caddy Case HDD Disk or this

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    Originally Posted by rick090 View Post
    How you doing mate ?
    Well, as i said before, i used my ASUS 16D1HT Burner, connected to PC through USB Port Externally. I Have made an ISO Image with Imgburn and burned that image also with Imgburn. I Used BDXL MDISC from Verbatim and burned at x2 speed. the burning process take more than 2 hours. i will order some non MDISC BDXL's and also try on those, they are cheaper half price. 41GBP for 10 psc is a great price vs more than 60GBP for 5 pcs for MDISC.
    For this price, we only have 5 disc in France
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    Originally Posted by rick090 View Post
    Originally Posted by Kadu7475 View Post
    Hey Rick

    with the bluray drive did you put it inside a portable casing connect via sat and then via power then connect via usb

    similar to how a powered portable hard drive works.

    also did you make any changes to the burn process with image burn

    cheers
    Well i have used a controller from external 3.5" hard drive enclosure. it is sata to usb with power cord. don't use a 2.5" enclosure, those don't have external power cord and you can't supply power to the Burner with USB alone.
    the burning process is the normal stuff. x2 speed, burning from ISO Image and use imgburn software.

    ernnnn, did you burn your BDXL Through USB Connected burner or internal SATA?
    The UB-150 is basically the same as UB-450 and should Behave the same.
    I burned it through a sata connected burner. My USB burner does not support BD-R XL as far as I know. I'll test it when I receive more blank discs from Japan. They are much cheaper than buying them from Europe.
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    Originally Posted by Kadu7475 View Post
    Hey Rick

    will something like this work

    2.5/3.5 inch SATA External USB 3.0 Hard Drive Enclosure Caddy Case HDD Disk or this

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    these are looking fine. as long as it convert the SATA to USB and it has a power cord (not sata power).
    the last one looks fine. how much it cost?
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    its about $100 Aussie Dollars
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    Hey Rick

    this is how it works here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OR1UHULLp8
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    I know how it works i just used the controller from external USB3 HDD which is basically the same as putting the drive in this enclosure.
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  20. Can anyone confirm if ri-data or any bd-re xl 100gb disc work with lg ubx90 player. Or Sony Ubp-x700? I read forums and saw bdrxl do but no one confirmed if the rewritable do. I also have seen multiple places it’s on 2 layer read which I understand. Thanks
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  21. Has anyone tried these 100GB BDXL BD-R discs in a Sony UBP-X800M2 UHD Blu Ray player?

    My UBP-X800M2 plays 50GB BD-R DL video discs (BD-compliant discs burned with BDMV + CERTIFICATE folders), but before I buy a BDXL burner for extra money over a standard BD-R burner, I wanted to check if this Sony also supports the 100GB discs...
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    Sorry for the delay. A current converter needed for the Panasonic UB450 was backordered.

    I confirm that the Panasonic reads Verbatim standard BDXL easily. I burned BDXL discs with an ASUS BW-16D1HT connected with a USB cable. On Apple computer, there is no Bluray burner. So, I don't have choice. ImgBurn was used to burn discs. Folders and ISO images were burned. Panasonic read the discs on first try.

    Case closed.
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    so it looks like the problem solved

    you need a bdxl burner in an external case connected to pc via usb.

    looks like i will have to get that external case.

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    Thank you guys for trying my theory I'm glad that it works for you too. by the way, the oppo 203 play it perfectly also. if someone with other players such as Sony or other Panasonic (820?) can try and confirm, it would be great and helpful.
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    Ignore. Stupid Question.
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    Originally Posted by rick090 View Post
    Thank you guys for trying my theory I'm glad that it works for you too. by the way, the oppo 203 play it perfectly also. if someone with other players such as Sony or other Panasonic (820?) can try and confirm, it would be great and helpful.
    As stated earlier in this thread, I can confirm that the Panasonic UB820 doesn't read BDXL discs even when burned through a USB connection.

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    Originally Posted by Bouchnouk View Post
    Sorry for the delay. A current converter needed for the Panasonic UB450 was backordered.

    I confirm that the Panasonic reads Verbatim standard BDXL easily. I burned BDXL discs with an ASUS BW-16D1HT connected with a USB cable. On Apple computer, there is no Bluray burner. So, I don't have choice. ImgBurn was used to burn discs. Folders and ISO images were burned. Panasonic read the discs on first try.

    Case closed.
    I'm on a Mac as well so your experience really interests me. The plan is to buy a ASUS BW-16D1HT and a connector so I can plug it in via USB. For ImgBurn are you booting into Windows or running a virtual machine through something like Parallels? I only ask as I feel like ImgBurn is just Windows right? I have always just used 'Burn' in the past but I'm guessing this is a no go for BDXL.

    My current Blu-ray writer is usb, a Samsung SE-506AB which says it can write BDXL discs though having looked through the thread it seems like the discs it burns aren't good enough, perhaps because it seems to be USB 2.0 though I have no real idea why.

    Also I was looking at the ASUS drive on AmazonUK as it can be bought for about £90 and I saw this review 'Burner works well in a mac, however it has the newer firmware that means it won't read UHD BluRay discs.' So I guess this means that while it can still burn the discs we need, it can't read them? Or something? I'm getting into this as I have a HEVC 4K MKV file I want to burn so that probably wouldn't affect me but if people were making backups or something this could be an issue right? Or maybe that reviewer is wrong!
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    Originally Posted by michaelsft View Post
    Originally Posted by Bouchnouk View Post
    Sorry for the delay. A current converter needed for the Panasonic UB450 was backordered.

    I confirm that the Panasonic reads Verbatim standard BDXL easily. I burned BDXL discs with an ASUS BW-16D1HT connected with a USB cable. On Apple computer, there is no Bluray burner. So, I don't have choice. ImgBurn was used to burn discs. Folders and ISO images were burned. Panasonic read the discs on first try.

    Case closed.
    I'm on a Mac as well so your experience really interests me. The plan is to buy a ASUS BW-16D1HT and a connector so I can plug it in via USB. For ImgBurn are you booting into Windows or running a virtual machine through something like Parallels? I only ask as I feel like ImgBurn is just Windows right? I have always just used 'Burn' in the past but I'm guessing this is a no go for BDXL.
    I burn Bluray discs (25 and 50G) since 2017 on an Apple computer with a USB 2.0 cable. ALL the discs burned were correct. Since few weeks, I burn BDXL using the same equipment with no problem at all.

    Imgburn is a Window program. So, I am using Parallels Desktop in order to run it properly. Since Big Sur, Apple has dropped the BootCamp option. So, I would not lose my time using that. Burn is a very good program but not for that kind of work. As long we're burning at 2x, we should not have any problem with the layer change. Some persons are saying to let the burning process "alone" and not to run anything else on the machine. All my burning occurs as I watch online TV, mux movies and download files. As stated before, all the burned discs were correct. So, I would not worry with that.

    At last, you need a UHD friendly drive in order to read protected UHD discs.

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    The new ASUS firmware can be downgraded to UHD friendly firmware. there is a guide in makemkv forum.
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    It can also be bought with a UHD friendly firmware already installed on the drive. That's what I did. So, I didn't have to downgrade the firmware.

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