Help Firewire Capture Problems !

[Sparkorc]

I have now installed a Syba firewire card which has the TI chipset, unfortunetly there is no difference can get it to work for HDV but not DV, I'm waiting on Syba support to get back to me to see if they can resolve this problem, I just cant understand the issue I'm experiencing, because reading reviews on Amazon other users running Win 10 have not had this problem!

[jagabo]

Looking back at your initial post, you said there is "no DV video in capture window." Have you tried to capture to see if you get anything in the file? Maybe it's just a display issue in the capture software (a lot has changed in Windows' video subsystems since the DV days).

[amaipaipai]

The solution was given, is more cheap than buy a new card. All you have to do is to enable IOMMU at your BIOS.

[Sparkorc]

Looking back at your initial post, you said there is "no DV video in capture window." Have you tried to capture to see if you get anything in the file? Maybe it's just a display issue in the capture software (a lot has changed in Windows' video subsystems since the DV days).

Thanks but I did try that at start of my problems, as I have not heard back from Syba yet I have been wracking my brain to think what is different apart from Win 10 and a new motherboard came to the conclusion that two hardware things had changed from previous setup, the FireWire Card, and FireWire Cable which got me thinking whilst I have changed now two 6 pin to 4 pin FireWire cables, my original firewire cable from my previous setup was 4 pin to 4 pin cable because the because the Asus P5Q3 Deluxe motherboard I had previously had built in FireWire connection which was terminated to a 4 pin firewire socket.

What I have done today is play a DV tape with the Sony TRV 900 connected via my old 4 pin to 4 pin firewire cable to my Sony GV-HD700 which as you probaly know it has its own built in LCD screen, and I observed the video being played back on the LCD screen of the Sony GV-HD 700, which to me proves that a signal is being sent through my old 4 pin to 4 pin cable, which now makes me wonder because I'm having to use a 6 pin to 4 pin cable is this my problem, although I have purchased 2 different manufacturers cables, its made me think this could be where the problem exists.


amaipaipai@ If you look back a few post ago I did try your suggestion, and reported back it did not make any difference, thanks anyway.

[jagabo]

Looking back at your initial post, you said there is "no DV video in capture window." Have you tried to capture to see if you get anything in the file? Maybe it's just a display issue in the capture software (a lot has changed in Windows' video subsystems since the DV days).

Thanks but I did try that at start of my problems

But what happened? Did the software complain and say there was nothing to capture? Did it try to capture? Did it create a file? Was there something in the file? Did MediaInfo identify any audio and video streams? All black frames? Otherwise corrupt frames?

[Sparkorc]

Looking back at your initial post, you said there is "no DV video in capture window." Have you tried to capture to see if you get anything in the file? Maybe it's just a display issue in the capture software (a lot has changed in Windows' video subsystems since the DV days).

Thanks but I did try that at start of my problems

But what happened? Did the software complain and say there was nothing to capture? Did it try to capture? Did it create a file? Was there something in the file? Did MediaInfo identify any audio and video streams? All black frames? Otherwise corrupt frames?

No files were created it but I have also noticed that Scenalyzer when opened does not find the Sony TRV 900 or the Sony GV-HD 700 player when connected through the firewire cable, but finds the Canon XH-A1 with this camera it can control the camera but that is all, when I have pressed capture the tape plays in the camera but Scenalyzer software not capturing anything.

I dont know if this is relevant but I have noticed both Sony products are shown in the Device Manager under Imaging Device, but the Canon is shown in Sound, video and game controllers, which I would have thought both of the Sony's would be shown, I'm sure that is where they use to be shown in my old system.

[Sparkorc]

Not impressed with Syba support all they suggested is to install a so called patch and provided a link, which is fact the Microsoft Legacy driver athough in my my message to them I explained I had already installed the Legacy driver, and it did not work for DV for me !

I replied to their email politiely and they can't even be bothered to send a reply back.

So I guess if like me and you have a problem with a firewire card not working properly, you are on your own dont rely on help from the manufacturer to resolve a problem, I have had more help and suggestions to try different things on this forum so thank you for all those that tried to help me.

[jagabo]

About all that's left is to replace the Win10 drive with an old drive and install Win7 or XP. I use removable drive bays for my multiboot systems.

https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Universal-Tray-Less-Backplane-Enclosure/dp/B00M3WNWB2/

If I remember correctly, DV drivers start with XP SP2.

[Sparkorc]

About all that's left is to replace the Win10 drive with an old drive and install Win7 or XP. I use removable drive bays for my multiboot systems.

https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Universal-Tray-Less-Backplane-Enclosure/dp/B00M3WNWB2/

If I remember correctly, DV drivers start with XP SP2.

As I still have all the components of my old system I was going to re-assemble my old one but have mislaid my thermal compound for the cpu, and have ordered some more, but I may adopt your idea of a multi boot system, as I am not totaly keen on doing a dual boot on win 10 especially as win 10 is aready installed first, are you just unplugging your removable drives as and when you require that specific operating system, and once again thanks for your help.

[Sparkorc]

I just thought the only thing with that method putting win 7 on a removable drive bay, I could not be sure my problem stems from going 4 pin to 4 pin firewire cable which my old system used, and I know it worked without problem on all cameras & player, and my new system is a standard 6 pin to 4 pin firewire cable, it maybe some sony products wont work when plugged into to 6 pin to 4 pin cable, because windows 10 recognised the Sony TRV 900 & the Sony Tape player albeit in the Device Manager as imagining device.

[amaipaipai]

If I remember correctly, DV drivers start with XP SP2.

With manufacturer drivers, Windows 98, by default, Windows 2000. I've done a lot of DV capture with W2k and Virtualdub.

[Cornucopia]

I just thought the only thing with that method putting win 7 on a removable drive bay, I could not be sure my problem stems from going 4 pin to 4 pin firewire cable which my old system used, and I know it worked without problem on all cameras & player, and my new system is a standard 6 pin to 4 pin firewire cable, it maybe some sony products wont work when plugged into to 6 pin to 4 pin cable, because windows 10 recognised the Sony TRV 900 & the Sony Tape player albeit in the Device Manager as imagining device.

The only difference between 4pin and 6pin is the inclusion of power on the 2 extra pins, and if you're using a 4->6pin adapter cable, it doesn't make it to the home run anyway. Plus, you SHOULD be using external power, regardless, for capping.

Scott

[Sparkorc]

Update Im now able to capture DV footage what I had to do.

Rebuild my old computer which is running windows 7 on a Asus P5Q3 Deluxe motherboard which has a internal socket for fireWire built into the motherboard, and using my old Lian Li tower case which has a built in 4 pin external Firewire socket, during the re-installation of windows 7 I had problems the installation would not complete and for days I struggled with this, I then remembered that when I originally built this system 8 - 9 years ago I had problems using the Corsair PC3-12800 1600Mhz ram I had installed, and in the bios I had to increase the ram voltage to 1.7v this cured the problem of instability, and I then managed to reinstall windows 7 sucessfully.

Using scenelive all my old DV footage was instantly reconized and captured using my Sony TRV 900 and Sony HDV 700 player deck, I still cant use WINDV but then I did not use that software in the past before anyway so its not a problem, I just need to found my old Sony Hi 8 shoulder mount camera and try some hi8 tapes that is if it still works.

What I have learnt don't use windows 10 and expect to capure DV footage for me this just did not work, also still think maybe my old camera and player deck was not be reconized in the computer using a 4pin to 6 pin firewire cable, I was tempted to pull the fire wire card out of my new system and try it with my old motherboard, but decided not to in case it mucked things up again, so its still happy days I have now got a working computer able to capture DV footage again, I will just use the new build computer for HDV footage only.

[Cornucopia]

Probably NOT Win10, though that does complicate things. Probably still the DV support variabilities of the 1394 controller chipset (this time LSI L-FW3227), as mentioned before.

Scott

[Sparkorc]

Strange thing is it is working with LS1 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller, and did not have to change driver to the (Legacy) version driver, because I did not have a decent hard drive to use when I installed windows 7 on my old system, I have now ordered a samsung evo 860 ssd drive to replace it old system drive which is very noisy and slow & old, its been in two computers before and has only 80gb size, I'm just dreading re-installing windows 7 again which when I installed it that old drive the other day, it was running over two days installing critical updates, I think in the end there was over 236 updates, I dont want to clone this old drive because when I checked in the system log there were a lot warnings and critical errors shown, so hopefully on a new drive and I have already downloaded all the drivers thats required on a usb stick.

Thanks for everyones help and suggestions to date.