reencode VCD to burn on a DVD

[brock4111]

How can I reencode VCDs so I can burn them onto a DVD, and get the 7.5 hours playback time? I want to reencode them, so I can do a BATCH encode. I know, it will take longer this way than it would to follow the guide, where I don't have to reencode, but this way, my computer can do the conversion while I am not at it!
I tried creating a template in TMPGEnc, based on their low resolution NTSC DVD settings, but I changed the CBR from 1800 to 1150. I then added the converted file to SpruceUp, and it looked like everything was going to work. I burned it fine, but when I played it on my SetTop, I got no video, just audio. I know my SetTop can play VCDDVDs, because I have made them, using the demultiplex/convert the audio method.

***Please note, I do know that I don't HAVE to reencode VCDs, I KNOW I can demultiplex, and just convert the audio, using the guide. However, that takes 30 minutes per 20 minute VCD .mpg clip, and I have to do it for each one. PLEASE don't post tellimg me that I don't have to reencode the VCDs.

[Duff]

not Brock (dk, hades etc)?

Well, the reason it only has audio is cuz your using an mpg1 video stream and your dvdplayer (like Many) doesnt support mpg1/DVD, only mpg2 for dvd.
You`ll have to re-encode as mpg2 if you want to compile as Dvd. i know u dont wanna hear that but thats how it it i`m afraid.
You could encode as mpg2 and use CBR (i wouldnt) with a low bitrate to get the most playback time out of it but its really not worth it.

[brock4111]

Yes, that Brock! Hiya, Duff.
Aparently, you didn't read my whole post. I said that I already made a VCDDVD, and it DID play on my SetTop. I made it by demultiplexing the video from audio, and then changed the audio to 4800, and 224. There's a guide that tells you how to do it. (one of the "how to"s on the left). At any rate, I know the burner can create VCDDVDs, and I know my SetTop (APEX) can play them. Someone please help!

[Duff]

ok,
i tried that on 3 different players and no luck... either way its not really worth.. If it only has audio then thats what happens when ya player doesnt support it,, but if u say it already worked then i dunno..

I gave up wasting my time on vcd/svcd 2 dvd ages ago...bleh
too busy rippin dvd`s with ifoedit..

[haymes]

I don't understand why you can't just capture mpeg1 as you would with a vcd, then author or burn the dvd as a vcd. In other words, just get the proper folders created and vcd information. Does the stand alone player sense that the medium is incorrect for vcd despite the folders say "this is a vcd?"

[brock4111]

Thanks, anyway, Duff.
I must have messed up a setting in my template.

Haymes, you simply can't drag VCD files into the authoring software. It won't work at all.

[Duff]

all down to specifications..

give in :D

[AntnyMD]

I think Hayes meant doing something to trick the DVD player into thinking its a giant VCD, ie, burning the proper files for VCD onto a DVD media, but as a "data" disk.

It wouldnt work because all DVD burns (data, audio and video) are burned in the UDF format, and VCDs are burned in the CD-ROM/XA format, and with a different sector size.

[brock4111]

Good point, Antny.
I figured out my problem, too! I didn't have all the video settings changed. I went into TMPGEnc, and took a screenshot of each tab under teh CBR 1800 DVD low resolution, and I changed all the settings for my template to what was there, except I used 1150 CBR. And it worked! It plays in my SetTop! However, I need to try putting 5+ hours onto 1 DVD, and see how that goes. The burn looks pretty big, but I think that the lead-in and lead-out tracks are HUGE for a video dvd. (at least 100MB, probably more)!