hi im currently using tlbros template off here i tried 2 pass vbr and besides it taking twice as long there was no differance between the vcd and svcd unless im doing something wrong tmpgs own pal vcd template sucks so dont use it only thing i change is colour a bit and sharpen the edge a bit. the only prob i get is sometimes the motion is a tad slow i go to virtual save wave after changing to no compression and audio to 44100 and straight to tmpg is this procedure correct im getting good results apart from motion a teeny bit slow its well watchable but annoying thanks chelly.