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  1. My Sister has a Nintendo Wii that stopped working we think it is the dvd drive. I found instructions on how to replace that on the YouTube. They stopped making the Wii and you can just by used ones now. We don't want to upgrade to the newest consule. I think a lot of us consumers would appreciate Nintendo making a Rom that we can legally buy and not have to buy the consule itself. For a gift I bought her the Nintendo Wii version of Super Mario All Stars. When it comes to Nintendo we mostly stuck to Super Mario, though my Sister also had Wheel Of Fortune and Jeopardy and then there was the Bowling Game that came with the Nintendo Wii.
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    I just noticed that the Skystream 3 is out, sporting somewhat enhanced hardware specs . . . but for this new model they have entirely dropped their (curated) version of Kodi, which had offered much of what the Dragon Box claimed to do. The price is lower vs. the model 2 ($100. from Amazon for the 3, or about $70. direct from the mfr.), and I suppose this means that the 3 is strictly a player now, competing with others that have been discussed here. I don't know if you can still side-load your own Kodi -- and customize it as you see fit -- but the answer is likely in the affirmative. Will have to check some reviews for more info. Meanwhile, if they can still be found in stock (from third party sellers), the model 2 has doubled in price to nearly $400. That will be money down the drain if they choose to also drop that model's development and support for their own formerly "unleashed" 'Media Center' firmware, which used to receive regular updates.

    In the wake of their getting squashed by Big Content, the Dragon Box bookmarks that I had now take you to an outfit selling CBD oil products. So, the folks who shelled out big for Dragon Box and their subscription services are truly screwed. But, if one gave it any thought at all, this should not have come as a great big shock to either Dragon Box (given the careless way in which they promoted the product) nor to the purchasers.

    This market won't be exterminated so easily though, I betcha.
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    I think these questions will probably fall under the heading of the Android boxes. If anyone is quite familiar with the Nvidia Shield, which is the preferred model (even if it's not the latest one), probably in terms of processor, RAM, ports, firmware, supported features etc. I see two main models listed on Amazon, and more than that here

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Nvidia+Shield&_sacat=0

    The answer is not always obvious: I have the Amazon Fire TV 1st. Gen., which I find preferable, in that their subsequent model dropped some ports and features. (The WD Live models went through a lot of changes also, with some later firmwares introducing freezes and other bugs, along with additional features.) Is there a particular Shield firmware level that is to be preferred ?

    Are these a good choice for HEVC / X265 playback ?

    And is the Nvidia one of those that do not allow the side-loading of Kodi ?

    Some things I have read seem to suggest there is a way to have this as part of a chain (including attached portable HDD) such that you can Record & save program content with it ??
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    Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post
    I think these questions will probably fall under the heading of the Android boxes. If anyone is quite familiar with the Nvidia Shield, which is the preferred model (even if it's not the latest one), probably in terms of processor, RAM, ports, firmware, supported features etc. I see two main models listed on Amazon, and more than that here

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Nvidia+Shield&_sacat=0

    The answer is not always obvious: I have the Amazon Fire TV 1st. Gen., which I find preferable, in that their subsequent model dropped some ports and features. (The WD Live models went through a lot of changes also, with some later firmwares introducing freezes and other bugs, along with additional features.) Is there a particular Shield firmware level that is to be preferred ?
    Get the latest version, currently the 2017 Shield. The 2015 Shield, which is still expensive as a refurb, had only a game controller included, and the remote was a separate purchase. The other differences are that the 2015 Shield is physically larger and has a micro SD slot.

    The Shield hardware itself is the same for all of the 2017 Shield models except for the included storage. All have 3GB of RAM. Shield TV Pro has a 500 GB hard drive built-in for Plex Media Server, plus storing games and apps. The other models have only 16GB available for storing games and apps. All models permit using one external storage device at a time for removable storage of files other than games or apps. That external storage device could be a USB 3.0 flash drive or a USB 3.0 hard drive. The other differences are the included accessories: remote control, game controller, or SmartThings Link. The Shield stand must normally be purchased separately but may be included as a promotional item at times.

    Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post
    Are these a good choice for HEVC / X265 playback ?
    Yes. There is decent support for 4K 10-bit HEVC with HDR-10. It includes an HDMI 2.0b port supporting 4K UltraHD at 24/25/30/50/60 Hz (with (HDMI-CEC, HDCP 2.2, 10-bit color & HDR10 / Rec. 2020 HDR) However, the Shield doesn't support HLG, Dolby Vision, or HDR10+.

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    And is the Nvidia one of those that do not allow the side-loading of Kodi ?
    Installing Kodi is straightforward. https://kodi.wiki/view/NVIDIA_SHIELD_TV

    Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post
    Some things I have read seem to suggest there is a way to have this as part of a chain (including attached portable HDD) such that you can Record & save program content with it ??
    Recording isn't supported except under specific circumstances. If you have one of the supported Silicondust HDHomerun tuners and subscribe to their DVR service (still under development for recording copy-once content), it is possible to record copy-freely content supplied by those tuners. Watching live TV with Android TV's Live Channels app is also possible if one has a supported Silicondust HDHomerun tuner.

    [Edit]Plex Live TV and Plex DVR is also supposed to work for recording TV from a supported tuner but I know much less about that. See https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4471/~/how-to-set-up-plex-live-tv-...r-on-shield-tv
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    ...and I suppose this means that the 3 is strictly a player now, competing with others that have been discussed here.
    No, the Skystream Three still plays everything, just as earlier models. And it's quite a bit cheaper as compared to the earlier models, as you noted. I'd highly recommend paying extra for the airmouse remote, though, as the included remote is crap.
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    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post
    I think these questions will probably fall under the heading of the Android boxes. If anyone is quite familiar with the Nvidia Shield, which is the preferred model (even if it's not the latest one), probably in terms of processor, RAM, ports, firmware, supported features etc. I see two main models listed on Amazon, and more than that here

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Nvidia+Shield&_sacat=0

    The answer is not always obvious: I have the Amazon Fire TV 1st. Gen., which I find preferable, in that their subsequent model dropped some ports and features. (The WD Live models went through a lot of changes also, with some later firmwares introducing freezes and other bugs, along with additional features.) Is there a particular Shield firmware level that is to be preferred ?
    Get the latest version, currently the 2017 Shield. The 2015 Shield, which is still expensive as a refurb, had only a game controller included, and the remote was a separate purchase. The other differences are that the 2015 Shield is physically larger and has a micro SD slot.

    The Shield hardware itself is the same for all of the 2017 Shield models except for the included storage. All have 3GB of RAM. Shield TV Pro has a 500 GB hard drive built-in for Plex Media Server, plus storing games and apps. The other models have only 16GB available for storing games and apps. All models permit using one external storage device at a time for removable storage of files other than games or apps. That external storage device could be a USB 3.0 flash drive or a USB 3.0 hard drive. The other differences are the included accessories: remote control, game controller, or SmartThings Link. The Shield stand must normally be purchased separately but may be included as a promotional item at times.

    Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post
    Are these a good choice for HEVC / X265 playback ?
    Yes. There is decent support for 4K 10-bit HEVC with HDR-10. It includes an HDMI 2.0b port supporting 4K UltraHD at 24/25/30/50/60 Hz (with (HDMI-CEC, HDCP 2.2, 10-bit color & HDR10 / Rec. 2020 HDR) However, the Shield doesn't support HLG, Dolby Vision, or HDR10+.

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    And is the Nvidia one of those that do not allow the side-loading of Kodi ?
    Installing Kodi is straightforward. https://kodi.wiki/view/NVIDIA_SHIELD_TV

    Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post
    Some things I have read seem to suggest there is a way to have this as part of a chain (including attached portable HDD) such that you can Record & save program content with it ??
    Recording isn't supported except under specific circumstances. If you have one of the supported Silicondust HDHomerun tuners and subscribe to their DVR service (still under development for recording copy-once content), it is possible to record copy-freely content supplied by those tuners. Watching live TV with Android TV's Live Channels app is also possible if one has a supported Silicondust HDHomerun tuner.

    [Edit]Plex Live TV and Plex DVR is also supposed to work for recording TV from a supported tuner but I know much less about that. See https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4471/~/how-to-set-up-plex-live-tv-...r-on-shield-tv
    Thanks, that was definitely helpful. It almost sounds like one of these could to some extent cover much of the territory of a HTPC, if properly equipped and set up. (?) Well, no optical drive that you'd probably have in a HTPC, and I'm not sure about playback from one's network . . . but I get enough of that from an attached portable HDD.

    I never delved into it, but I thought I saw some mention under Kodi apps of either apps or services that allowed you to record and save some content ?
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    ...and I suppose this means that the 3 is strictly a player now, competing with others that have been discussed here.
    No, the Skystream Three still plays everything, just as earlier models. And it's quite a bit cheaper as compared to the earlier models, as you noted. I'd highly recommend paying extra for the airmouse remote, though, as the included remote is crap.
    But it looks like they did drop their own curated version of Kodi -- with a lot of the apps & channels that got some mfr.s into trouble. They seem to be continuing to update that, at least for the moment.

    I have the Sky Two in one viewing location, and the older Sky One in another. One of 'em has that gyro dual-sided keyboard, the other has the Ri-8 substitute keyboard. I'm not seeing any strong, immediate reason to pick up the Model Three. But as a hobbyist who likes to keep up with whatever is going on, I may want to check out the Nvidia Shield. Of my various streaming boxes, right now the only one that has been a suitable candidate for X265 playback is the Sky Two. Nix on that for the Amazon Fire TV, not sure about the Roku Ultra. Part of the problem can also be software. I liked the way that the older WD Live just handled everything built in, via its firmware. (It won't do the high compression codecs though.) For the later boxes you are apt to need a software player also, and even recent VLC may not be up to the task. The alternate software players like MX don't seem to be as good as VLC . . . but I may not have enough experience with them either.
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    Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post

    Thanks, that was definitely helpful. It almost sounds like one of these could to some extent cover much of the territory of a HTPC, if properly equipped and set up. (?) Well, no optical drive that you'd probably have in a HTPC, and I'm not sure about playback from one's network . . . but I get enough of that from an attached portable HDD.

    I never delved into it, but I thought I saw some mention under Kodi apps of either apps or services that allowed you to record and save some content ?
    The Shield can access media files on network attached storage: https://www.androidcentral.com/how-mount-network-storage-nvidia-shield-tv Kodi for Android might allow the Shield to play media files stored on Windows PCs that are set up for file sharing.


    Kodi's Wiki doesn't list any Android-compatible TV back ends, but it's always possible that the Wiki is out of date. From https://kodi.wiki/view/PVR_recording_software
    1.1 Android
    We are sorry to have to inform you there are unfortunately not yet any generically compatible PVR backend software applications that run natively on Android and have a PVR client addon for Kodi. Android is currently only added here on this page because requests and enquiries about PVR backends for Android that are compatible with Kodi are one of the most frequently asked questions.

    If you want to get access to Live TV, EPG and the other PVR features in Kodi running on Android today, then you currently either need to use an IPTV (Internet TV) client or use a workaround such as running your PVR backend on another computer or appliance/device on your local network in order to stream the video to Kodi running on Android, (you can, for example, run PVR backend (PVR server) software on a Raspberry Pi or mini-PC).
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