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    I am thinking of purchasing this program to remove cinavia from movies. it says $39.99 which i believe is about 30 GBP. will it really work or would I be wasting my money. it seems to indicate it will disable the cinavia script.

    any help would be most appreciated.

    http://www.cinexhd2.com/
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  2. IMHO better buy cheap China player capable to decode your movies - Cinavia is pay technology and China vendors will not pay for it so it will be not implemented.
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    Originally Posted by pandy View Post
    IMHO better buy cheap China player capable to decode your movies - Cinavia is pay technology and China vendors will not pay for it so it will be not implemented.

    whats a china player. or do you mean a non blue ray player, as a friend of mine says she dont want to change here blur ray players, also says she dont want to watch movies on a usb stick either as plus her tv dont have a usb port
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    loa909, in the future please use a more descriptive subject title in your posts to allow others to search for similar topics. I will change yours this time. From our rules:
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  5. Originally Posted by loa909 View Post
    whats a china player. or do you mean a non blue ray player, as a friend of mine says she dont want to change here blur ray players, also says she dont want to watch movies on a usb stick either as plus her tv dont have a usb port
    Something like: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Amlogic+S912 - consider this as IMHO better alternative.
    Wait for other opinions - perhaps somebody will provide better solution (software removal of the Cinavia from my perspective is less secure approach).
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    Originally Posted by redwudz View Post
    loa909, in the future please use a more descriptive subject title in your posts to allow others to search for similar topics. I will change yours this time. From our rules:
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    ok will try to remember next time
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    [QUOTE=pandy;2501455]
    Originally Posted by loa909 View Post
    Originally Posted by pandy View Post
    whats a china player. or do you mean a non blue ray player, as a friend of mine says she dont want to change her blue ray players, also says she dont want to watch movies on a usb stick either as plus her tv dont have a usb port
    Something like: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Amlogic+S912 - consider this as IMHO better alternative.
    Wait for other opinions - perhaps somebody will provide better solution (software removal of the Cinavia from my perspective is less secure approach).


    ok thanks
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    Originally Posted by loa909 View Post
    I am thinking of purchasing this program to remove cinavia from movies. it says $39.99 which i believe is about 30 GBP. will it really work or would I be wasting my money. it seems to indicate it will disable the cinavia script.

    any help would be most appreciated.

    http://www.cinexhd2.com/

    you might want to try this also - https://www.dvdfab.cn/dvd-blu-ray-cinavia-removal.htm?trackID=headmenu
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    The catch with "Cinavia removal' programs is that audio is reencoded or completely replaced with a non-Cinavia version and some audio streams may be disabled.

    CinEx HD:

    "Question: No Master HD / True HD audio when finish?

    Answer: While decoding losless audio like Master HD or True HD we keep only the core audio. After removing Cinavia we re-encode the audio to the best possible format. This is Dolby Digital with 640 kbps (Ac-3). We are working on a solution to optimize this issue."


    DVDFab Cinavia Removal

    "Output Lossless PCM and High Quality AC3 Audios

    After the Cinavia watermarks being removed from the affected DTS HD Master Audio of a Blu-ray disc or the AC3 audio of a DVD disc, a lossless piece of PCM (Pulse-code modulation) audio track will be installed back to the backup Blu-ray disc, and similarly, another high quality AC3 audio track shall be put back to the output DVD disc. Under both circumstances, it’s hardly possible for human ears to distinguish the sound quality, because in terms of audio quality, the output audio is infinitely close to the original one."
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    Why bother with discs and players? There are so many good media players and it's easy enough to wrap a Blu ray in a MKV container so there's no loss or re-encoding. Then your original discs becomes the backup stored away in a secure place out of reach of 'sticky fingers' and the like
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  12. iv'e heard this works it's by the same company CinEx HD

    http://www.cinexhd2.com/dvdranger/
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    Originally Posted by BzERK IE View Post
    iv'e heard this works it's by the same company CinEx HD

    http://www.cinexhd2.com/dvdranger/
    DVDRanger is the same program repackaged as CinEx HD. When you click on the Buy button on the page, it links to CinEx HD.
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    Ok thanks all I will check things out 6
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    You had better read this page as well

    http://www.cinexhd2.com/decrypter/

    This could well end up costing you more than £30
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    Originally Posted by lingyi View Post
    Originally Posted by BzERK IE View Post
    iv'e heard this works it's by the same company CinEx HD

    http://www.cinexhd2.com/dvdranger/
    DVDRanger is the same program repackaged as CinEx HD. When you click on the Buy button on the page, it links to CinEx HD.
    this dont mention for windows 10

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    Originally Posted by october262 View Post
    Originally Posted by loa909 View Post
    I am thinking of purchasing this program to remove cinavia from movies. it says $39.99 which i believe is about 30 GBP. will it really work or would I be wasting my money. it seems to indicate it will disable the cinavia script.

    any help would be most appreciated.

    http://www.cinexhd2.com/

    you might want to try this also - https://www.dvdfab.cn/dvd-blu-ray-cinavia-removal.htm?trackID=headmenu
    $87 is way too much
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    Originally Posted by DB83 View Post
    You had better read this page as well

    http://www.cinexhd2.com/decrypter/

    This could well end up costing you more than £30
    so all i would need is just this decrypter for just avi, mp4, and mkv movie formats

    so I would require any of these 2 programs not cinex hd to remove cinavia

    AnyDVD HD, or Passkey,
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    Passkey does not remove cinavia.

    Passkey is a decrypter which you do not, at the moment, need. And only works for original media.
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    Originally Posted by DB83 View Post
    Passkey does not remove cinavia.

    Passkey is a decrypter which you do not, at the moment, need. And only works for original media.
    so what exactly do i need from what i mentioned to you
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    You do appear confused.

    Yet the program you linked to back in your OP will appear to do the job again if you have no original disks.

    I have no way to confirm if it actually will work since I would have thought that the act of ripping a disk will remove cinavia since cinavia surely is a copy protection of an original disk and not some feature that will prevent a video from playing. But there again I do not trouble myself with rips, torrents and all other material from media I do not own.
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    ok once again many thanks
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    One other thing.

    Isn't there a 7 day trial for this product? Plenty of time then to test it. And if you still have playback issues then cinavia is not to blame.
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    Originally Posted by DB83 View Post
    One other thing.

    Isn't there a 7 day trial for this product? Plenty of time then to test it. And if you still have playback issues then cinavia is not to blame.
    Oh didn't realise it had a 7 day trial. But I also don't think it's for windows 10 will check it out again
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  27. Do you realize that cinavia protection (something embedded in audio stream only) is triggered while using BD player, Play Station and that's about it? And some movies only, perhaps Sony Studio movies?
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    Originally Posted by DB83 View Post
    I have no way to confirm if it actually will work since I would have thought that the act of ripping a disk will remove cinavia since cinavia surely is a copy protection of an original disk and not some feature that will prevent a video from playing.
    Cinavia removal is a separate step from ripping. However, Cinavia only prevents a copy created from a Cinavia-protected DVD/Blu-ray from playing if someone uses a hardware Blu-ray player licensed after 2009, game systems, or licensed software players (i.e. PowerDVD or WinDVD).

    FWIW I have only ripped commercial DVD/Blu-rays to answer questions here about drives or ripping software for the purpose of making fair use copies.
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    Originally Posted by netmask56 View Post
    Why bother with discs and players? There are so many good [software-based] media players [out there]
    Yes, indeedy, there are. VLC, MPV, to name a couple. The KODI media server. All three of these are open source and free (unlike Plex, which is closed source and commercial, and could comply with cinavia detection at any time).

    *** FOR THE MOMENT ***.

    However, I'm betting very big money that sooner or later, not only will both the audio and video streams of media files be infected with this technology...but might even have imbedded code in the streams (similar to malware code imbedded in JPG files) that will prevent the streams from being played even in software media players.

    Thus, IMO those of us out there that are techs had better grab the source code to these players as soon as possible, so that when it happens those of us that have the skill to update the software, can. the source code to VLC, MPV, and mplayer can all be found on github, and anyone can check the source code out as a zip file archive.
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