Any suggestions on what capturing card/device to get for my new desktop?
I'm probably just going to cap VHS tapes. I do have a Sony RDR-GX257 DVD Recorder.
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Use the DVD recorder to convert a VHS tape to disc, ideally at highest bitrate. Cut a short sample from that with DGIndex and upload it here as an attachment.
I say this because if the RDR-GX257 has input TBC, you could record the HDMI output to get an uncompressed signal to your PC. Though I tested the RDR-GX300 (older despite "lower" model number?) and it's really bad with VHS input.
Beyond that, a budget is required to really start listing suggestions.
I think I did it correctly. Anyways I used my Sanyo VWM-668 VCR to play it.
My budget is about $200.
By "short" I meant 10-30 secs, not 5 mins. There's a slight bend to the left at the top of the image, but it's essentially free of wiggles. If you have or can make a 2nd-gen recording, it would be more of a stress test, but based on this one sample, grabbing the HDMI output from the DVD recorder looks like a good path.
Colors look shockingly accurately for a cable TV recording.
The VCR isn't tracking the tape properly, and every other field has added distortion. Dunno whether that's just a symptom of the tracking, or a worn head...?
2nd gen recording? Ah, I think I understand. Hopefully I have a blank tape to use for that somewhere.
Yeah sorry, I thought around 5 mins would help in seeing if it would work. Didn't realize it was that overboard.
I do have 2 other VCRs but I'm doubtful they would be any better.
Toshiba VCR W-602
Quasar VCR VHQ560 (5 25 1995?)
Last edited by Merdink; 10th Jun 2017 at 02:30.
Around here, there is a thrift store that sells tapes for $0.25 CAD. Last time I wanted to record a test tape, I bought some popular pre-recorded movie that the world will never miss and taped over it. Any added instability from reusing the tape is beneficial for our purposes.
You don't need a "better" VCR for a tape to track better. And playing this TV recording in a different VCR should at least confirm whether that field issue is a playback problem.
I really hope this upload works this time or I'm gonna go nuts wasting hours trying to upload 6 clips, and they are an average of 50MB each.
Apart from the waviness in the Sanyo 2nd-gen, the Sony is doing a good job.
$20-50 for S-Video capture from the Sony passthrough: several options of roughly the same quality.
$50-90 for HDMI capture from the Sony passthrough: you could set up an eBay Saved Search for the AVerMedia HD DVR aka MTVHDDVRR aka C027. You only need the card itself; the analog input cable is useless IMO because the composite/S-Video side of the card isn't good. You probably also need a $10-25 splitter that can remove HDCP. This wouldn't be required if you had a Win7 PC and could do the C027 "HDCP trick".
Up to you what you want to do. With leftover budget, you could look into adding a Panasonic passthrough as well, if you run into tapes that produce results like the Sanyo 2nd-gen or worse.
All three VCRs show the alternating-bad-field issue. I guess it was a problem with the VCR that did the recording. The Toshiba appears to have the most neutral sharpness: the Sanyo is softened, and the Quasar is sharpened.
What Panasonic would I be looking for?
DMR-ES10 is claimed to have the best correction, though no one has shown this head-to-head. ES15 is usually cheaper due to having less notoriety. ES25 is ES15+HDMI output; more expensive. There are other models too, but most or all have HDD, so are more expensive.
The disc drive needn't work.
Note that since the DMR-ES10 doesn't have HDMI out, someone wanting to use one as a pass-through needs a good analog capture device. As already stated, the current version of the AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR C027 is not good for SD analog capture.Ignore list: hello_hello, tried, TechLord
You could use one of the variation of legacy Pinnacle devices, I have the 500-USB and works like a charm in lossless capture, They do require a driver though, installing a trial software from their website got me the driver for free even after the trial expiration. Here is a sample if you don't mind downloading few hundred megabytes. I got it on youtube but the quality is degraded little.