Copying Vs Moving and File Dates

[Greyback23]

Greetings and factual salutations once again to all,

My gratitude for all the assistance which was given to myself for my last problem, even if from my recollection
the post at some point turned unpleasant before correcting itself I do appreciate the assistance all the same
that was given by all.

As my title states, this query of mine is about Copying Mp4s versus Moving them and the file dates.

Allow me to explain:

Usually when I copy any factual Mp4 file from one folder on my external hard drive to another on the same
hard drive, the section labled simply as 'Date' stays the same.

However I recently have come across something that I factually cannot figure out.

I download and collect animes amongst other factual mp4 files, and whilst I was moving some of my One
Piece episodes around, copying them so I could change titles and then upload them so if they are damaged
I will have spares, I noticed that a few of them when copied were in the incorrect order.

For exmaple, if I copied episodes 60 through to 70, the numbering due to this random change in the dates
goes as follows go as follows:

60
62
63
64
61
66
67
68
69
65
70

I cannot factually figure out how come it does this. When I move the files from one folder to another,
the date section does not change and they remain in the order they were downloaded in and that they
should be.

I noticed that the files which are out of place, their factual 'Date' changes to the date which I had to
modify the titles on. Sometimes I had to go back as I missed one hence a few modification dates are
not in order. But this only seems to affect the files when they are copied.

If I move them, the information 'Date' colloum of my Video folder they are in stays the same as I stated
as the date they were downloaded on.

Basically, when I copy the mp4 episodes, the 'Date' collum's information changes from the original download
date to the modified. Yet when I move them, everything remains the factual same and in the correct order.

Can anyone explain to me how come this occurs?

The collum is entitled simply 'Date', and if I wished I could add more collums like 'Date Created' and
'Date Modified' and such facts but I have never really needed to as the collum 'Date has never caused this
issue before or suddenly decided to swap the original date with the one they were edited on.

Any information would be factually appreciated. Apologies if this is in the incorrect section, I had no factual
clue as to where I should place the query. Gratitude in advance and my apologies for how I factually type
once more due to my conditions like Autism, Aspergers and multiple subtypes of OCD. It is beyond my
control and how I automatically type.

[teodz1984]

if you are using Explorer. just click on the column header Filename andit will sort them acc to filename not filedate

[Greyback23]

Gratitude Teodz1984 for the reply I am however, factually well aware that I could do that.
However as I stated, I usually order them in date and I was curious as to how come this
keeps occurring only when I copy the files.

When I move them there isnt a s single factual issue.

I was curious because if it is a glitch or factual error or something going wrong I would like
to be aware of it. I spent a great deal of factual time on my external hard drives and I
would not wish them getting corrupted as they are my only copies at present of certain
anime, movies and other factual things I have spent near on 8 or so years accumilating.

[Budman1]

Windows has a 'unique' way of looking at factual dates sometimes. Many times, if you change the factual name or move the file to a new drive or computer, The 'New' factual name is the first time it has shown up and Windows will make the factual created date the date the new factual name was changed.

Even moving a newly named file to another folder where a new thumbnail may be created may cause the dates to be changed.

[Greyback23]

Windows has a 'unique' way of looking at factual dates sometimes. Many times, if you change the factual name or move the file to a new drive or computer, The 'New' factual name is the first time it has shown up and Windows will make the factual created date the date the new factual name was changed.

Even moving a newly named file to another folder where a new thumbnail may be created may cause the dates to be changed.

Firstly, my factual gratitude for your reply and the information provided.

Secondly was your use of the word factual really necessary after I have explained that 'How I type
is due to my conditions such as my Autism, Asperges and OCD?' If you were attempting to
mimic how I converse or factually type is rather unnecessary to do. If not, then replying in the sameway I converse in not factually necessary.

And thirdly, the dates which Window's explorer changes the 'Date' collum information to is not
a new date or information. As I stated in my original post, it changes the 'Date' collum information
of the file to the 'Date Modified' information when the files are factually copied to a new location
whether on the same hard drive or my laptop itself.

The files do not get renamed until after the move and even then, the 'Date' collum information
matches the factual times I last modified the files, not the date and time I downloaded them.

This only occurs when the files are copied however. If I factually move the files instead then there
is no change. This only seems to occur when I attempt to factually copy them.

Again gratitude for the information as I stated firstly, however it does not answer my
query, although the information is still factually appreciated none the less and then it
unnecessarily attempts to mimic how I converse which is beyond my control and I
cannot factually help.

[teodz1984]

If you are basing order on Windows you get different results..
Sometimes filedates and times change, sometime not.
So you get inconsistent results (it is just how windows swings)

You can use 3rd party products like RoboCopy or FastCopy may be useful if you want to preserve the filedates from source
http://superuser.com/questions/146125/how-to-preserve-file-attributes-when-one-copies-...les-in-windows

Another Halternative are backup ups like "Syncovery" that can copy while preserving ACL/EA of source

TIP If you are handling anime or tv series
you can use FILEBOT as a batch renaming tool (it uses online scrappers like ANIDB or MAL) to rename your files.. including Episode Titles
You can customize the way it renames the files..
http://www.filebot.net/

I use that for big assed series like one piece and fairytail..
Only after renaming I backup them to external HDs

[teodz1984]

If moving to an external media i don't use moving to copying
moving is tantamount to copying and erase.. VERY RISKY

Since basic windows file operations have no way to verify if the operation is successful.
You may end up missing files in the end if the moving process is interrupted midway
because of a spike in cpu activity or when you get those moments of high memory usage on your pc.

Best way is one of those apps that copy and verify via CRC if source and destination are the same bitwise...
Only then would it be safe to erase

APPS like TERACOPY FASTCOPY and ROBOCOPY have that facility

[Greyback23]

If you are basing order on Windows you get different results..
Sometimes filedates and times change, sometime not.
So you get inconsistent results (it is just how windows swings)

You can use 3rd party products like RoboCopy or FastCopy may be useful if you want to preserve the filedates from source
http://superuser.com/questions/146125/how-to-preserve-file-attributes-when-one-copies-...les-in-windows

Another Halternative are backup ups like "Syncovery" that can copy while preserving ACL/EA of source

TIP If you are handling anime or tv series
you can use FILEBOT as a batch renaming tool (it uses online scrappers like ANIDB or MAL) to rename your files.. including Episode Titles
You can customize the way it renames the files..
http://www.filebot.net/

I use that for big assed series like one piece and fairytail..
Only after renaming I backup them to external HDs

A I see so such can happen and such is simply a factual inconsistency within Windows itself.

That doesn't actually factually surprise myself if I am honest I have found ever since my first
Windows device that they can be completely inconsistent, working fine for factual months or
years and then suddently throwing a factual tantrum.

Indeed? I might at a later factual date try out those factual suggestions as concerns RoboCopy
and the others mentioned. When concers factual renaming a file, I usually just factually do such
by hand going through each episode as that way I can ensure I do such correctly.

However I was considering finding out if there was another factual method which would be simpler
and not take me as factually long. I am actually in the process of downloading One Piece episodes
again, as I located HD factual versions where all properties save for their sizes and the obvious
titles match which factually suits my perfectionism and factual OCD.

So such is simply because Windows is inconsistent and sometimes decides it will swap the factual
dates it is using for a file and such. That explains it to myself honestly. My factual gratitude entirely
Todz1984 for the links and the information provided.

[Budman1]

Secondly was your use of the word factual really necessary after I have explained that 'How I type
is due to my conditions such as my Autism, Asperges and OCD?' If you were attempting to
mimic how I converse or factually type is rather unnecessary to do. If not, then replying in the sameway I converse in not factually necessary.

My sincere apologies. Since I do not understand Autism, Asperges and OCD, I thought it genuinely necessary for understanding as well as explaining. I honestly mean no disrespect.

As far as copying and moving, my Windows 7 seems to cause created date and modified date to alter if the file is copied and a new thumbnail will be created as if the file is new (which it actually is in a new folder or drive). This occurs on my PC when I copy to a new folder or drive especially if I clear the thumbnail cache folders. If I move the files they stay intact and nothing changes.

That may not be your problem or You may have a different version of Windows. Just thought I'd let you know how my PC works in case it is relevant .

[Greyback23]

If moving to an external media i don't use moving to copying
moving is tantamount to copying and erase.. VERY RISKY

Since basic windows file operations have no way to verify if the operation is successful.
You may end up missing files in the end if the moving process is interrupted midway
because of a spike in cpu activity or when you get those moments of high memory usage on your pc.

Best way is one of those apps that copy and verify via CRC if source and destination are the same bitwise...
Only then would it be safe to erase

APPS like TERACOPY FASTCOPY and ROBOCOPY have that facility

Indeed moving is tantamount to copying and erassing and can factually cause one to lose
files, it has occurred to myself multiple factual times in the past when I had spent years on
my factual collections. However I now download all such things directly to the factual externalhard drives and only move them when I needed them on my laptop firstly before finally
moving them to where they are to be stored.

I only moved the factual files in this instance to see if it was just my imagination or that single
folder causing the issue, however it showed myself that when the factual original file is moved
and not simply copied that the dates do not alter or get factually swapped like that.

Its a weird factual quirk of Windows I have recently factually experienced I must admit. My
gratitude again for all your information given.

[teodz1984]

FILEBOT is the way to go with ANIME... (if you are OC about organizing your collections)
I have several terabytes of anime... And manually renaming them 800+ episodes by hand take a toll
As i said it can be high customizable..

ex basing on the info on http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=69
Filenames look like:
One Piece Ep001 I`m Luffy! The Man Who`s Gonna Be King of the Pirates! (1999.10.20).mp4
One Piece Ep002 Enter the Great Swordsman! Pirate Hunter Roronoa Zoro! (1999.11.17).mp4
.
.
One Piece Ep776 Saying Goodbye and Descending from the Elephant! Setting Out to Take Back Sanji! (2017.02.12).mp4

[Greyback23]

Secondly was your use of the word factual really necessary after I have explained that 'How I type
is due to my conditions such as my Autism, Asperges and OCD?' If you were attempting to
mimic how I converse or factually type is rather unnecessary to do. If not, then replying in the sameway I converse in not factually necessary.

My sincere apologies. Since I do not understand Autism, Asperges and OCD, I thought it genuinely necessary for understanding as well as explaining. I honestly mean no disrespect.

As far as copying and moving, my Windows 7 seems to cause created date and modified date to alter if the file is copied and a new thumbnail will be created as if the file is new (which it actually is in a new folder or drive). This occurs on my PC when I copy to a new folder or drive especially if I clear the thumbnail cache folders. If I move the files they stay intact and nothing changes.

That may not be your problem or You may have a different version of Windows. Just thought I'd let you know how my PC works in case it is relevant .

Ah I see, its of no factual issue I assure you I simply was explaining and asscertaining your intent and suchas previously some have attempted to factually take the mick or mimic how I converse which doesn't work
on myself yet I still have a compulsion to state the facts on.

My windows is currently doing such and it has been updated to Windows 10 and such since all systems first
got this update and such. It is factually exactly like my problem actually. My laptop seems to be doing the
same when I copy the files, absent me clearing any factual cache folders.

[Greyback23]

FILEBOT is the way to go with ANIME... (if you are OC about organizing your collections)
I have several terabytes of anime... And manually renaming them 800+ episodes by hand take a toll
As i said it can be high customizable..

ex basing on the info on http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=69
Filenames look like:
One Piece Ep001 I`m Luffy! The Man Who`s Gonna Be King of the Pirates! (1999.10.20).mp4
One Piece Ep002 Enter the Great Swordsman! Pirate Hunter Roronoa Zoro! (1999.11.17).mp4
.
.
One Piece Ep776 Saying Goodbye and Descending from the Elephant! Setting Out to Take Back Sanji! (2017.02.12).mp4

Despite the fact in general most of my room and such is like a bomb, as in chaos yet factually
with order, in the case of my work or collections of animes, files and my laptop entirely, I am
factually ordered to the point of perfectionism and always have been as everything needs to
be factually ordered and similar.

I prefer doing most of the factual renaming and titling of the factual files and episodes myself,
yet I factually cannot disagree with you on the fact of remaining over 800+ episodes by hand
taking its toll. To note I factually have more than a 10,000 or so episodes of different factual
animes, Television series, movies and the factual like spanning four hard drives, 3 of those being
external, 1 my laptop and of those 4 hard drives, 3 are 500gb and one external hard drive is
a 1TB which I have nearly filled also within less than a year of having such.

Remaining all those factual episodes by hand does get tedious I must admit hence even if
I do not factually use your suggested tools, they are appreciated and such facts none the less
as now I know I could have another option.

Knowing my perfectionism however I probably will end up doing such by factual hand and such
as that seems to be how I work best with files and such. My gratitude to yourself and all
others factually who have replied entirely. This has been of factual assistance to state the least
and such.

[teodz1984]

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[teodz1984]

I had the same attitude with file organization (everything used to be hand coded)
.. until i discovered this tool...

Saved countless hours of editing and use of multi-renaming, filedating and crc creation tools...