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  1. i have gtx 960 4gb at the minute but im wanting to upgrade which would be the best to get out of the gtx 1050ti or the gtx 1060, i dont game and want it just to help towards video encoding
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    Seems like the 1050 is recommended if you just want encoding, and believe it uses the same encoding hardware as the higher 1070 and 1080.
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  3. thank you for your help
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  4. how do either stand in h265 encoding, hdr encode support and speed ... i have gtx 960 - 4gb at the minute is the upgrade worth it?
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    Originally Posted by KarMa View Post
    ... believe it uses the same encoding hardware as the higher 1070 and 1080.
    Thank you.
    Is there a web page somewhere outlining comparisons of the encoding hardware among the various nvidia cards ? (eg which are faster/slower ?)
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    I'm sure there is hydra3333 but I don't really know. Maybe someone can post more info. As far as HEVC encoding via Nvidia, I believe there is only one, the 1050-1080 line of cards which I think all have the same encoding hardware.
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  7. Originally Posted by hydra3333 View Post
    Originally Posted by KarMa View Post
    ... believe it uses the same encoding hardware as the higher 1070 and 1080.
    Thank you.
    Is there a web page somewhere outlining comparisons of the encoding hardware among the various nvidia cards ? (eg which are faster/slower ?)
    There's a thread on the forum with an encoded test 1080p50 test file at different bitrates using the 1050 hevc encoder with the log file as well. It was extremely fast and the quality was similar to x264 medium.
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    Originally Posted by KarMa View Post
    ... the 1050-1080 line of cards which I think all have the same encoding hardware.
    Ah thanks. For my purposes then (encoding) since it's the same encoding hardware, the cheapest card would do ?

    Originally Posted by ezcapper View Post
    There's a thread on the forum with an encoded test 1080p50 test file at different bitrates using the 1050 hevc encoder with the log file as well. It was extremely fast and the quality was similar to x264 medium.
    OK will do a search.

    (ps avc rather than hevc)
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  9. Go for 1050Ti fastest you can find (overclocked GPU should be capable also to gain video encoder speed) - 1050Ti is also quite ok for 3D (good tradeoff between power consumption and speed).
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  10. i orderd this morning and went for the gtx 1060 .... thank you all for your feedback, very much appreciated
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    Good luck.
    Not the 3Gb version (it's not a full-capacity 1060) ?
    Just came across this http://wccftech.com/nvidia-launches-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb/ and the first of comments is a beaut.
    And this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zQ9VUNnKNU

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1060_gaming_x_3gb_review,29.html

    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/07/nvidia-gtx-1060-review/
    The GTX 1060 is (mostly) faster than the GTX 980; it runs cool and quiet with a light 120W TDP; and best of all the GTX 1060 costs £240/$250. Yes, that's more expensive than the GTX 960's launch price, continuing Nvidia's tradition of jacking up prices this generation. And yes, AMD's RX 480 is a wee bit cheaper. ...
    That's not to say the GTX 1060 is flawless. Once again, Nvidia is offering two models: the more expensive Founders Edition, which costs £275/$300 and comes comes with a smaller version of the shard-like reference cooler used on the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080, and partner cards, which will come with a range of different coolers and overclocks.
    The graph comparing 1060 to 980Ti is interesting.

    Having seen that, I'll probably still punt for a 1060 too when the time comes, as I have a program which depends on nvidia
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  12. i got the 6gb version ... very happy so far
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  13. 1050 use GP107 and it is equipped with newer version of NVENC engine (common in NVidia - latest chip revision receive new features and old issues may be fixed), 1060 use older GP106.
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  14. Everything ive tested has been spot on so im happy with the 1060 for my needs
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    Originally Posted by pandy View Post
    1050 use GP107 and it is equipped with newer version of NVENC engine (common in NVidia - latest chip revision receive new features and old issues may be fixed), 1060 use older GP106.
    OK, thank you.
    We can't win, eh ?
    The 1050 "only" has a 128 bit bus (vs 192 bit bus on the 1060) and much less of everything else making it substantially slower than the 1060 (non 3Gb version) for other gpu based stuff like OpenCL operations into the future ?
    http://hwbench.com/vgas/geforce-gtx-1050-ti-vs-geforce-gtx-1060
    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-1060-vs-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti

    Is the 1060 version of NVENC engine "good enough" and probably much faster ?
    I wonder what the differences in NVENC engine are, under the covers, to see if it's worth it.

    http://wccftech.com/nvidia-launches-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb/ ... the first of comments (the youtube clip) really IS a beaut, as funny as they come.
    And this one is OK too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zQ9VUNnKNU
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  16. So far I haven't seen anyone showing any differences in NVENC (the encoding part, specifically). There seem to be differences for decoding though, namely support for VP9 10 bit. Then again, few people have both cards so that does not have to imply there aren't differences concerning the encoding.
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    OK. I now have this really uneasy feeling.

    I too am considering a new rig in the next 12 months, possibly the last for many years, but now feel uncomfortable with the 1050-Ti (lesser grunt and bandwidth) and the 1060-3Gb (a crippled 1060) and the 1060/1070 ("older" decoding ... eg support for futures such as VP9 10 bit). I also have a technical dependency on nvidia (DGDecodeNV in vapoursynth for fast GPU based decoding, deinterlacing, resizing, and separately fast GPU based encoding with nvenc).

    What do you reckon I should do ?
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  18. The minimum 1050 2gb is very fast man. 272 fps at 1080p, here is quality test with log file:

    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/379666-A-budget-Nvidia-card-for-H265-hardware-encod...=1#post2472141

    I used this one:

    https://jet.com/product/detail/a494c0cb484c4d7bb48048534b98fa55?jcmp=pla:ggl:cwin_elec...r2EaAoFQ8P8HAQ

    and old computer 3rd gen i3 nothing special
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  19. does anyone know if the 1060 will be getting updated at all with 2 pass hevc encoding?
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    Just came across this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_NVENC#Fourth_Generation_.28Pascal_GP10x.29
    not much info but better than nothing.
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  21. does anyone know if the 1060 will be getting updated at all with 2 pass hevc encoding?
    It already does, quite a long time.
    Problem is the 2pass encoding currently offered by NVIDIA&Co is simply not what most folks expect from 2pass encoding.
    Most folks expect a 2pass encoding to be an encoding consisting of two separate paths.
    (1st pass to analyse the source, 2nd pass to encode the source based on the analysis to optimize the encoding.)
    Here is what NVIDIA&Co understand as 2pass encoding:
    a. encode a single frame one time
    b. analyse that frame
    c. encode the frame a second time
    -> unlike the 2pass encoding one expects this is not an optimization over the whole encode, but a 2pass encoding of a single frame and thus by far not as efficient.
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    I suppose I should reference the new query back here. Super 2070 or 2070 ?
    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/393754-nvenc-encoding-on-nvidia-2060-Super-vs-2070...er#post2555287
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