how can i insert the special caracter " eighth note" in subtitle workshop

[Sergio15226]

Hi, Having problems with inserting the special caracter "eighth note" in order to do closed captions

[raffriff42]

Ths question has been asked before over the years - here's a nice, simple solution:

...I've never had a problem writing the musical notes "♪" & "♫" just by typing [Alt]+13 and [Alt]+14 respectively. Whenever I come across an .srt that is supposed to have those notes I merely open it up in notepad (yes, notepad) scroll down to the necessary line, correct the note, and presto, music notes...

[jagabo]

The extended DOS character set:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437

The numeric values starting with the top row:

0 - 31
32 - 63
64 - 95
96 - 127
128 - 159
160 - 191
192 - 223
224 - 255

In some programs you can get most of them by holding down ALT, typing the 1 to 3 digit number, then releasing ALT. I don't think this works in Notepad anymore though.

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You can get some characters in Notepad by holding down ALT, typing 0 on the numeric keypad, then the 1 to 3 digit number. But this doesn't work for most of the "non-printable" characters below 32. There is a workaround though. Open a DOS window and type ALT014 (or whichever number corresponds to the character you want) and press Enter. You'll see a ^N where you typed the character but the error message will display the character you typed:


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Use the Edit -> Mark menu to mark the ♫ character, and Edit -> Copy it to the copy/paste buffer.


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Then you can paste it into Notepad.

Crap, it doesn't work for character 13 because it gets mapped to a carriage return (Enter). Even if you use a hex editor to set the value it will probably be interpreted as a carriage return by the subtitle renderer.

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[usually_quiet]

Also, not every font includes all the special closed captioning characters. You must also make sure that the font used to display the captions includes the special characters that you need.

[netmask56]

Works in my notepad ♪

[jagabo]

Works in my notepad ♪

Can't get it to work here on Win7 or Win10.

[Budman1]

What characters you get in DOS and notepad etc. depends on what codepage is active at the time. Mine uses 437 for dos and works fine but must use 1252 if I want to use filenames with ellipsis and em mark in them.

[El Heggunte]

Please, forget the 7-bit era and the whole codepage nonsense...

just use Unicode, problem solved.

Font = "Lucida Sans Unicode"

♪ ♫

Font = "Arial"

♪ ♫

Codepoints used: 266A, 266B

P.S.: Forget "closed captions" as well

[jagabo]

just use Unicode, problem solved.

How good is unicode support outside of software media players -- the players built into HDTVs or Roku, for example? Also, I can copy/paste the characters from a firefox to notepad (then save as unicode), but is there a way to type them in if you don't have easy access to a document from which to do that?

[raffriff42]

Can't get it to work here on Win7 or Win10.

hold down the ALT key, press and release Numberpad 1, press and release Numberpad 3, release ALT key

[Budman1]

but is there a way to a them in

Type them directly into what? Explained above, notepad, subtitle edit, dos all work differently on different pc's. Where do you want to type them directly?

[El Heggunte]

just use Unicode, problem solved.

How good is unicode support outside of software media players -- the players built into HDTVs or Roku, for example? Also, I can copy/paste the characters from a firefox to notepad (then save as unicode), but is there a way to type them in if you don't have easy access to a document from which to do that?

That's why I also said:

P.S.: Forget "closed captions" as well

In other words, the O.P. should be using bitmap-based subtitles.

[usually_quiet]

just use Unicode, problem solved.

How good is unicode support outside of software media players -- the players built into HDTVs or Roku, for example? Also, I can copy/paste the characters from a firefox to notepad (then save as unicode), but is there a way to type them in if you don't have easy access to a document from which to do that?

That's why I also said:

P.S.: Forget "closed captions" as well

In other words, the O.P. should be using bitmap-based subtitles.

The sorts of players Jagabo is discussing don't always support bitmap-based subtitles, or only partially support them. srt probably has the widest support of any type of subtitle.

[Edit] I looked at the list of supported subtitle types for my mother's Blu-ray player. VobSub is supported for locally stored files, but DLNA streaming requires text-based subtitles.