Avisynth playback problem in Windows 8.1 64bit

[ricardouk]

Hi everyone!

After some problems with avisynth and windows i decided to stay with Windows 8.1 64bits

On a clean instalation i installed Lavfilters so that i could ditch ffdshow and halli but scripts werent playing on mpc-hc (64) or virtualdub, i uninstalled lavfilters amd installed ffdshow64 + halli but no luck as before, tried the 32bit version of ffdshow but it still doesnt work. I used the prefered filter tweaker to setup ffdshow as a decoder but none of it worked.

ffdshow + halli used to work perfectly with windows (32bits), tried googling and searching but i only found a thread at doom9 (which i can no longer find) about some extra steps or UAC problems, cant remember....

Can anyone help?
Thanks

[ricardouk]

Can anyone help?

[jagabo]

32 bit AviSynth requires 32 bit players/editors/filters/codecs. 64 bit AviSynth requires 64 bit players/editors/filters/codecs. Both can coexist but they can't see each others' environments.

[remanyao]

AviSynth+All Plugins Full is 32 bit. What is the problem?
Or 64 bit is God?

[ricardouk]

Hi, this is what i done so far on windows 8.1 64bit:

1- avisynth+(64) + lavfilters (64) - no playback
2- avisynth+(64) + ffdshow tryouts (64) + halli spliter - no playback
3- avisynth+(64) + ffdshow tryouts (32) + halli spliter - no playback
3- avisynth 2.6 + ffdshow tryouts (32) + halli spliter - no playback

thanks for any help

[jagabo]

"no playback" -- with what? 32 bit player? 64 bit player? And what does "no playback" mean? Do you get an error message? A black Video? Crash? And what source filter are you using in AviSynth? AviSource? DirectShowSource? ffmpegsource? LWLibAvVideoSource? And why don't you show the "bitness" of all the components you tried? For example LAV filters comes in both 32 and 64 bit versions. If you want to use 64 bit AviSynth with LAV filters you need to use 64 bit LAV and a 64 bit player. YOU CANNOT USE A MIX OF 64 BIT AND 32 BIT COMPONENTS.

[ricardouk]

"no playback" -- with what? 32 bit player? 64 bit player? And what does "no playback" mean? Do you get an error message? A black Video? Crash? And what source filter are you using in AviSynth? AviSource? DirectShowSource? ffmpegsource? LWLibAvVideoSource?

all the situations i described above were with mpc-hc 64bit, no playback means that i tried avisource and directshowsource and mpc wouldnt play the script, it displayed a message saying that it couldnt render the file.

And why don't you show the "bitness" of all the components you tried? For example LAV filters comes in both 32 and 64 bit versions. If you want to use 64 bit AviSynth with LAV filters you need to use 64 bit LAV and a 64 bit player. YOU CANNOT USE A MIX OF 64 BIT AND 32 BIT COMPONENTS.

thats what i did, see what i wrote before, i tried de 64bit version of lavfilters

Thanks

[ricardouk]

i reinstalled avs+ 64 and now it displays following message when playing a mp4 file through avisynth

http://pastebin.com/LWVaDaJP

[jagabo]

The error message seems to indicate the software is trying to deal with the video but can't decode it. Are you sure you have an decoder for the file in question? What does MediaInfo say about your file?

Try a file which uses codecs you know you have installed: AVC in MP4, XVID in AVI, whatever, just to verify everything is working.

I think your video is Fraps, FPS1. ffdshow includes an FPS1 decoder but you may have to enable it.

By the way, I installed AviSynth 64 bit, ffdshow 64 bit, and MPCHC 64 bit on a Win8 64 bit system and had no problems playing various files via AviSource() and DirectShowSource().

[ricardouk]

I think your video is Fraps, FPS1. ffdshow includes an FPS1 decoder but you may have to enable it.

i cant understand it either, my video is mp4. i have ffdshow (64) and halli instaled, after closing the warning audio plays fine but black video

General
Complete name                  : C:\Users\UtilizadorPC\Desktop\teste\master3.mp4
Format                         : MPEG-4
Format profile                 : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                       : mp42 (mp42/mp41)
File size                      : 265 MiB
Duration                       : 1 min 1 s
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 36.0 Mb/s
Encoded date                   : UTC 2016-10-30 21:40:22
Tagged date                    : UTC 2016-10-30 21:40:28
©TIM                           : 0
©TSC                           : 15
©TSZ                           : 1

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : Main@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames      : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP           : M=4, N=15
Codec ID                       : avc1
Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                       : 1 min 1 s
Bit rate                       : 35.7 Mb/s
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 15.000 FPS
Standard                       : NTSC
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 1.147
Stream size                    : 262 MiB (99%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2016-10-30 21:40:22
Tagged date                    : UTC 2016-10-30 21:40:22
Color range                    : Limited
Color primaries                : BT.709
Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.709

Audio
ID                             : 2
Format                         : AAC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                 : LC
Codec ID                       : 40
Duration                       : 1 min 1 s
Source duration                : 1 min 1 s
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Bit rate                       : 317 kb/s
Maximum bit rate               : 337 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L R
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 46.875 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode               : Lossy
Stream size                    : 2.33 MiB (1%)
Source stream size             : 2.34 MiB (1%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2016-10-30 21:40:22
Tagged date                    : UTC 2016-10-30 21:40:22

[ricardouk]

it seems its a MPC HC issue, avisynth scripts now play with virtualdub, tried disabling the internal filters in MPC HC but no luck.

[jagabo]

That looks like normal AVC video. The frame rate is low but that shouldn't be a problem.

AviSource() can't open MP4 files but DirectShowSource() can if you have a file reader/splitter for the container and the correct codecs for the audio and video installed. You can also use third party source filters like ffms2 and LSmash. Those can handle the MP4 container and AVC/ACC without relying on system installed filters.

Do all AVC videos display black or only this one?

[ricardouk]

That looks like normal AVC video. The frame rate is low but that shouldn't be a problem.

its a timelapse video

Do all AVC videos display black or only this one?

used an old mp4 video, black video with sound after error with mpc hc, with virtualdub filtermod video and sound ok

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[jagabo]

Add Info() to the end of your script. What does it say when you open the video?

And, just to be sure, MPCHC is playing videos normally, right?

[remanyao]

Add Info() to the end of your script. What does it say when you open the video?

Yes.
No only Info() to the end. All text in the script.

[jagabo]

Huh?

Use a simple script like:

DirectShowSource("filename.mp4")
Info()

Do you see text about the video properties in the video?

Or an even simpler script, just:

Version()

Do you see something like this?


[Attachment 39194 - Click to enlarge]

[ricardouk]

Use a simple script like:

DirectShowSource("filename.mp4")
Info()

with mpc hc it only plays audio, with virtualdub plays fine, shows this:

[Attachment 39195 - Click to enlarge]

Version()

with mpc-hc

[Attachment 39198 - Click to enlarge]

with virtualdub

[Attachment 39197 - Click to enlarge]

im using avisynth+ 0.1 (r1576) 64bit

[remanyao]

Huh?

Use a simple script like:

DirectShowSource("filename.mp4")
Info()

DirectShowSource () for open .mp4? I would not use
Process video + audio together in Avisynth? Never

The audio=true is the problem.

1) Demux audio track (Mp4box)
2) LSMASHVideoSource("C:\Program Files (x86)\MIS VIDEOS\ACODEO\01.mp4", track=1). Or (track=2) Only video open and process.
3) The final product is .avi? Previously converts the audio .aac to .mp3 or .ac3.
4) Remux video+audio.
5) Is All.

[ricardouk]

Thanks remanyao for your advice

I've always used it that way (directShow or aviSource) since i started using avisynth, never had problems before with audio and video together (trimming, joining, etc)

this is something else...

the combination of ffdshow+halli always worked for playing mp4 or avi through avisynth, didnt need to install anything else, i moved to 64bit because editing 4k in 32bit OS would cause memory errors, gimp for example would complain about not having enough memory.

Thats why i decided to use a 64bit OS and it works perfectly with gimp, virtualdub but avisynth isnt working

[remanyao]

(...)Thats why i decided to use a 64bit OS and it works perfectly with gimp, virtualdub but avisynth isnt working

Yes.
I'm on Windows 7 (x86_64) platform and all my multimedia-tools are in Program Files_x86 and LAVFilters Pack 32 bit. Never more.
The rest in Program Files (x64).
I use Avisynth from WindowsXP and for me it is 32 bit. DirectShowSource () I never liked.

64 bit is a problem for developers. Still today.

[ricardouk]

Thanks, hopefully someone might have had a similar situation and can help me.

what is "everyone" using these days on windows 8.1 64bit to make it work? everything 64 or a mix?

remanyao, have you tried 8.1 64bit before? not worth upgrading?

[remanyao]

(...)remanyao, have you tried 8.1 64bit before? not worth upgrading?

No.
While my windows 7 (x86_64+RAM 4,00 GB) has support, I'm not going to change.
No need to change it, is all I need.

[ricardouk]

You got me confused (x86_64)? you're using windows 7 32bit on a machine with a 64bit processor?

my main problem is 4k lossless footage, when i used avisynth on 32 bit OS the conversion stoped after 1min, not enough memory (i have 8GB RAM), Gimp when stacking a lot of images would stop as well, on 64bit it flies through without problems, its just avisynth...

[remanyao]

You got me confused (x86_64)? you're using windows 7 32bit on a machine with a 64bit processor?

my main problem is 4k lossless footage, when i used avisynth on 32 bit OS the conversion stoped after 1min, not enough memory (i have 8GB RAM), Gimp when stacking a lot of images would stop as well, on 64bit it flies through without problems, its just avisynth...

Yes.

The Platform, C:\ (Program Files x-64/ Program Files x-86), the machine:

[ricardouk]

Thanks, ill wait for other users opinion, i might start using/learning how to use "graphical" NLE's and ditch avisynth, i tried Hitfilm express and its quite good except for the 1080p output limitation, theres the free Da vinci Resolve, shotcut and others getting better and better.

Thanks once again