Pinnacle Systems DV500 For XP Possible?

[Illicious]

Anyone know if the DV500 PCI (not plus) Pinnacle update drivers work for win XP?

Im getting a new dell dimension 8200 PC and it dosent support that IEE 1334 type of video card so i have to use a PCI video card.

Also, is this a good card to capture audio/video from VCRs and TVs?

Thanks

[invisibler]

A Few Things:

The DV500 and DV500 PLUS are exactly the same product, the PLUS just comes with some additional software...

an IEEE 1394 card (which I think is what you meant) IS a PCI card...

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but with a little effort, you can often find the answers to your own questions:

http://pinnaclesys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/pinnaclesys.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_prod...&ProductID=321

The card works great to capture both DV and Analog sources (as long as its compatible with your setup) but I'm never heard of a card that captures from TVs...

[Illicious]

Thanks for the reply.

BTW, maybe this shouldnt be posted here but maybe someone could help:

For Dell Dimension 8200 - Dell.com says on their site:

With a dual channel RDRAM memory, this Pentium 4 based system delivers data at 2X the speed of single channel SDRAM. It's easy to add high performance peripherals like hard drives up to 120GB, 64MB DDR graphics, home networking, and Dell Movie Studio (IEEE 1394 with Video Editing Software).

At other sites it says:

Dimension 8200 lacks IEEE 1394 (FireWire)

The Dell PC comes with a free PCI slot to use and since IEEE 1394 is PCI then i dont get what they sayin.

Anyways thanks again for your help

[markums2k]

I've got exactly that. It works perfectly. You need the v3.0 software from Pinnacle, and you're in for an extra special treat if you don't have broadband internet. The FULL update, which I recommend is 300MB. Sounds like fun, eh? The "essentials" version is 150MB. I've got DSL, so I was happy to download the full update. I burned it to a CD and was able to install my Pinnacle hardware using the same old recommended steps (Adobe first, then drivers, then Hollywood Copper, etc.). The updated Hollywood doesn't even need a serial.

Before updating, I attempted to get my DV500 PLUS working with the boxed driver set (version 2.0 I think, or something close to it). It SEEMED to install successfully... all the way up till I tried to capture video in Adobe Premiere 6.0. No matter what, it could not capture video from the composites on the blue box ("could not connect to capture device"). I don't know if the firewire (IEEE 1394) ports were working, but my money is on a big fat "no".

So, it's possible becuase I'm doing it right now. Believe it or not, Windows 2000 did a better job of handling video capture and editting, but I'm not about to go back. Windows XP has blue screened 3 times during heavy editting sessions. If you haven't seen an XP blue screen, it's nothing special. You get a little number that starts at "0" and counts up... "beginning physical memory dump" it tells me. Maybe Windows comes back after it finishes the dump... I couldn't tell you. I always reboot before it finishes. This may be resolved through Adobe Premiere updates, but I have not done the research yet. I definitely need more RAM for XP to be satisfied anyways.

By the way: I figure DELL says the system lacks IEEE 1394 because it simply doesn't come with the hardware. It kinda like saying "this system lacks a DVD-ROM". Installing the DV500 will, basically, give you IEEE 1394 ports and allow you to use any devices that connect through that method (i.e. external hard drives, camcorders, etc.). IEEE 1394 *IS* FIREWIRE. Sony calls it iLink or something like that. All the same deal.

Hope this helps!

[invisibler]

markums2k-
I agree with every thing you said except

Installing the DV500 will, basically, give you IEEE 1394 ports and allow you to use any devices that connect through that method (i.e. external hard drives, camcorders, etc.).

Allthough the DV500 does let you capture DV footage and it has IEEE 1394 ports, if you use the DV500 drivers, you cannot use the card to connect to external harddrives, burners, etc....the special pinnacle drivers allow you to use the DV500 firewire ports ONLY to connect to DV cameras...now you could install the default OHCI drivers instead of the pinnacle drivers with the DV500 and you will get full firewire access through the DV500....but if you do so, you will lose the real-time and analog features and the the $500 DV500 would function just like a standard $20 firewire card...

Illicious-
just like markums2k said, the nearly every computer these days including the DELL you are looking at is fully compatible with standard IEEE 1394...all that

Dell Movie Studio (IEEE 1394 with Video Editing Software).
and
Dimension 8200 lacks IEEE 1394 (FireWire)

mean is that the computer doesn't by default come with an IEEE 1394 (firewire card) installed, but if you add the "Dell Movie Studio" package to your order then it will come with an IEEE 1394 installed...Get the DV500 if you want DV capture as well as Analog-input and real-time effects....Get the save some money and get the "Dell Movie Studio" if don't need the analog-inputs, real-time effects and you want to be able to use the firewire card for more than just video editing...or save some more money and spend $20 at pricewatch.com and buy an IEEE 1394 card that would be nearly the same thing as the "Dell Movie Studio" accept for the software....

[markums2k]

Goodness! Thanks for pointing that out, invisibler! Very important about those firewire ports only accepting video signals with Pinnacle drivers. Obviously, I had no idea that was the case. My mistake!