media info says NTSC for PAL?

[hello_hello]

I explain in great detail exactly what I meant, and provide evidence that this problem exists, and you refuse to accept that I actually meant that, refuse to believe the evidence, accuse me of backpedaling, and go on and on about media players, which I agree typically work for playing the content in question

And to add the the comedic value of it all, now you're continually explaining that you've explained what you meant, and again explained you've provided evidence that a problem exists when nobody has argued about it. Not all NTSC Bluray players play 25fps Bluray discs. We agreed on that 25 posts ago. Let it go and move on.
If you agree media players work for the content in question, I'll ask once more. What are you arguing about? And no they don't "typically" work until you provide an example of one that doesn't. Until then the "do" work.

LOL There are dozens of people who come here for help every year because they are attempting to play video file formats which their TV media player or another media player doesn't support.

Which probably has nothing to do with the frame rate of the video unless they're ignorant enough to question why they can't play a PAL DVD on NTSC equipment or why their NTSC Bluray player won't play a 25fps Bluray disc. "Not supporting" a particular standalone file format or video type would almost never have anything to do with frame rate, despite the bad advice you might consistently offer. Why do you keep going on about it as though it would?

You should go argue with yourself, because obviously you enjoy arguing for no reason at all.

You can keep avoiding the question for as long as you feel like looking foolish. Can you provide an example of a player that'll play a 24fps 1080p MP4 but won't play the same video if it's 25fps. I'm still waiting.....

[usually_quiet]

And this topic was NOT about file playback nor support, it was about why MediaInfo is showing a file noted as "NTSC".

I agree with that as well.

I should not have allowed myself to be drawn into an off-topic argument that was based on one off-hand remark I made about people living in countries outside N. America not needing to worry about HD video frame-rates.

@hello-hello: Not only am I not replying, I'm putting you on my ignore list, seeing as how you are a jackass who continues to argue with people even after they repeatedly say they agree with you.

[hello_hello]

I should not have allowed myself to be drawn into an off-topic argument that was based on one off-hand remark I made about people living in countries outside the N. America not needing to worry about HD video frame-rates.

Or you could have been grown up enough to admit you were wrong.

@hello-hello: Not only am I not replying, I'm putting you on my ignore list, seeing as how you are a jackass who continues argue with people even after they repeatedly say agree they with you.

Oh dear. Another forum baby using the ignore list as a substitute for discussing a topic like a grown up. Putting me on your ignore list because you're accusing me of doing exactly what you're doing yourself. Mental.... although it seems reasonable you'd be a member of the same club as sameself.
I guess I'm supposed to be upset by that, or care, or something.....

[johnmeyer]

To quote the bard: "A pox on both your houses."

What a bunch of gibberish, none of it answering the OP's question, little of it correct, and all of it ignoring anything that anyone else said.

As Monty Python used to say, "this sketch has become too silly." [cut to black]

[usually_quiet]

To quote the bard: "A pox on both your houses."

What a bunch of gibberish, none of it answering the OP's question, little of it correct, and all of it ignoring anything that anyone else said.

As Monty Python used to say, "this sketch has become too silly." [cut to black]

Which post of yours in this thread answered the question in the initial post? I must have missed it among all the gibberish. All I see are posts from you that are related to the argument you are complaining about. LOL

[johnmeyer]

Which post of yours in this thread answered the question in the initial post? I must have missed it among all the gibberish. All I see are posts from you that are related to the argument you are complaining about. LOL

Wow. I guess you want to take on all comers. Anyone else want to post in this thread?

P.S. You also should note that you have been so intent on "winning" a pointless and silly argument that you completely missed all three of my posts, every one of which tried to answer the OP's question and none of which "are related to the argument you are complaining about." Here are the links to my other posts in this thread:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/380969-media-info-says-NTSC-for-PAL?p=2463732&viewf...=1#post2463732

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/380969-media-info-says-NTSC-for-PAL?p=2463749&viewf...=1#post2463749

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/380969-media-info-says-NTSC-for-PAL?p=2464116&viewf...=1#post2464116

I realize that the OP's initial post was about an errant Mediainfo reading, but it implied that the video might not be playable on his equipment.

[usually_quiet]

Which post of yours in this thread answered the question in the initial post? I must have missed it among all the gibberish. All I see are posts from you that are related to the argument you are complaining about. LOL

Wow. I guess you want to take on all comers. Anyone else want to post in this thread?

P.S. You also should note that you have been so intent on "winning" a pointless and silly argument that you completely missed all three of my posts, every one of which tried to answer the OP's question and none of which "are related to the argument you are complaining about." Here are the links to my other posts in this thread:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/380969-media-info-says-NTSC-for-PAL?p=2463732&viewf...=1#post2463732

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/380969-media-info-says-NTSC-for-PAL?p=2463749&viewf...=1#post2463749

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/380969-media-info-says-NTSC-for-PAL?p=2464116&viewf...=1#post2464116

I realize that the OP's initial post was about an errant Mediainfo reading, but it implied that the video might not be playable on his equipment.

The OP deliberately set his camera to record using what he said were PAL settings. Given that, what made you think he would be watching it on a TV made for the N. American market, which is where I said there can be problems playing HD video with "PAL" framerates? People keep telling me there are no problems watching HD video with NTSC framerates in former PAL counties, using any playback device and any HDTV purchased in those countries.

Also, your two out of three of the links above were replies to something I wrote. Silly me, thinking they were directed at me rather than Sounds, the OP

[JVRaines]

Why would footage says NTSC in media info when my Nikon D3200 is set to PAL. I thought I had posted this, apologies if i have. I do not see it

I think MediaInfo is reading this value from the video stream header. According to the h.264 standard, there is a video usability information (VUI) attribute called video_format which is pertinent only with SD resolutions. Perhaps your camera defaults this value to "NTSC" and doesn't bother to change it when recording HD video. Better behavior for MediaInfo would be to omit this attribute when the material is not SD.

[hello_hello]

Ignore list: hello_hello

There's only one thing funnier than a "can't be wrong" putting someone on their ignore list because they're having a tantrum, and that's advertising it in their signature as though someone might care.

The OP deliberately set his camera to record using what he said were PAL settings. Given that, what made you think he would be watching it on a TV made for the N. American market, which is where I said there can be problems playing HD video with "PAL" framerates?

That's definitely one of the funnier things I've read in a while. Almost a tad mental. Who mentioned frame rates and NTSC in the first place????

Why would footage says NTSC in media info when my Nikon D3200 is set to PAL. I thought I had posted this, apologies if i have. I do not see it

I think MediaInfo is reading this value from the video stream header. According to the h.264 standard, there is a video usability information (VUI) attribute called video_format which is pertinent only with SD resolutions. Perhaps your camera defaults this value to "NTSC" and doesn't bother to change it when recording HD video. Better behavior for MediaInfo would be to omit this attribute when the material is not SD.

Edit:
JVRaines,
Sorry (in case you read my initial post already), after a re-think I realised I misinterpreted your post and the VUI attribute "video_format" you refereed to is something different to the colormatrix VUI attributes I initially referred to when replying, so I've deleted my reply.

[hello_hello]

I asked google about the video_format attribute JVRaines referred to and found this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150203203142/http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Sett...gs#videoformat
I also found someone else asking the same question:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=170621
But not an answer as to why "NTSC" is possibly being written for HD video.

[Krispy Kritter]

As it doesn't apply to HD content, that's why I suggested he contact the creator. It's likely a default value for a field that wan't designed to be empty.