How do i make a good Anime DVD rip ?

[zanzar]

i have some anime DVD ISO files that i want to upscale myself.
i was told that the DVD is the source, so it should be the starting point.
once i got some of those DVDs i noticed that some of them have some problems in the video which will show in a minute
since there are other rips on the web to this dvds i downloaded them in order to compare them footage quality between them and the DVDs
and i found that some managed to deal with the problems minimizing them somehow and some just left them as is and just encoded the video

1.some sort of dots pattern instead of a line
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/180288
the dvd contains this lines that appear as dot "strings" i found a rip where some one managed to fix it
any idea how he did that?

2.some noise and blurness
same here the dvd iso had points where the whole video has this "interferences" and the rip i found fixed it
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/180289
how do i make this thing disappear in order to get the more clear figure ? (any idea why its like that in the first place?)

3.some sort of a "coating" along the endges
https://forum.videohelp.com/images/imgfiles/gHXLsfQ.jpg
look at the guys hair there are like some sort of half transparent blocks all along the lines

this is all for now
i am new at this stuff and might now understand straight away what you say so try keeping it simple
my original plan was to use DVD Decrypter to get the video file i wanted from the dvd and then lunch it into Megui with some filters like neddi3 awarpsharp and toon
if any one has suggestions i would be happy to learn

[jagabo]

1. Poor deinterlacing. Inverse telecine instead, or a better deinterlacer.
2. Compression artifacts. DVD source shouldn't be that bad.
3. Oversharpening halos. DVD source shouldn't be that bad. DeHalo filter.

If you're serious you'll have to learn AviSynth.

[zanzar]

1. Poor deinterlacing. Inverse telecine instead, or a better deinterlacer.
2. Compression artifacts. DVD source shouldn't be that bad.
3. Oversharpening halos. DVD source shouldn't be that bad. DeHalo filter.

If you're serious you'll have to learn AviSynth.

well i know the basics
i used "AvsPmod" where i download filters into AviSynths plugin folder and make a script with the options i want

you say "DVD source shouldn't be that bad"

what if this is the dvd and it was used by other ripers ...

i play it with mpchc with madvr and lav filters

[jagabo]

Nobody can give you specific filters and settings without samples of your source. Because different sources can require very different filtering.

[dannyboy48888]

now and days my workhorse is QTGMC. is it slow but damn good. For hybrid anime and certain shows (startrek etc) I use it and leave the 60fps output as is. it also has built in denoising. even on my progressive stuff I use the denoising function and just disable the 60fps output. EXAMPLE lines i use are as follows, adjust the denoise to your liking and run dedup or what not on it afterwards in a 2 pass if you want VFR out.

NTSC DVD-60fps out (dgindex file in megui):
QTGMC( Preset="Slow", EZDenoise=2.5, NoisePreset="Slow", SourceMatch=3)

NTSC Progressive out (dgindex file input)
tfm(order=-1).tdecimate()
QTGMC( Preset="Slow", EZDenoise=2.5, NoisePreset="Slow", SourceMatch=3, InputType=1)

non true film material will be jerky with just TFM by itself. if the source is not true film, and you don't want to do a 2 pass VFR something like:

srestore (rate=23.976) or
srestore (rate=29.97)

will give a slightly more fluid picture at the cost of some frame blurring. For anime I strongly advice just leaving it at 60fps unless there is a need for it. in my tests the overhead was only 5-10% more but motion was butter smooth on panning scenes for most stuff.

in avspmod just give it a sec on refreshes as qtgmc is a hungry filter.

I'll leave upscaling alone as that's more of a personal preference thing.

[zanzar]

now and days my workhorse is QTGMC. is it slow but damn good. For hybrid anime and certain shows (startrek etc) I use it and leave the 60fps output as is. it also has built in denoising. even on my progressive stuff I use the denoising function and just disable the 60fps output. EXAMPLE lines i use are as follows, adjust the denoise to your liking and run dedup or what not on it afterwards in a 2 pass if you want VFR out.

NTSC DVD-60fps out (dgindex file in megui):
QTGMC( Preset="Slow", EZDenoise=2.5, NoisePreset="Slow", SourceMatch=3)

NTSC Progressive out (dgindex file input)
tfm(order=-1).tdecimate()
QTGMC( Preset="Slow", EZDenoise=2.5, NoisePreset="Slow", SourceMatch=3, InputType=1)

non true film material will be jerky with just TFM by itself. if the source is not true film, and you don't want to do a 2 pass VFR something like:

srestore (rate=23.976) or
srestore (rate=29.97)

will give a slightly more fluid picture at the cost of some frame blurring. For anime I strongly advice just leaving it at 60fps unless there is a need for it. in my tests the overhead was only 5-10% more but motion was butter smooth on panning scenes for most stuff.

in avspmod just give it a sec on refreshes as qtgmc is a hungry filter.

I'll leave upscaling alone as that's more of a personal preference thing.

thanks you for your comment but as i mentioned i am new at this
the process you described is in order to get the best RIP from the DVD iso file?
i understood how to use QTGMC but not how to get the source from the DVD ?
should i just use the VOB file with "DVD Decrypter" ?
i downloaded "dgindex " and i cant understand how to use it in order to get what i want (i RAW ripped video file from the DVDISO ,also what should his extantion be?
you mentioned its called "dgindex file input" , how do i get it ?

[dannyboy48888]

ah thought you meant how to clean up the source. in that case what I do for dvd's is use MakeMKV to rip the title I want. then I process the mkv file with mkvextract to get the raw streams. The m2v file I index with dgindex for use in megui.

[jagabo]

Mount your ISO image as a virtual DVD with WinCDEmu. Then use DgIndex to build a d2v index. Open that d2v file with Mpeg2Source() in AviSynth.

[zanzar]

i want to clean up the source (to get rid of all the problems i mentioned before) i just dont get how to get the right file in order to process him with the "QTGMC" you mentioned

for example here is my script where i try to load the VOB file i've got from "DVD Decrypter" and it errors

https://forum.videohelp.com/images/imgfiles/LAeyXYLh.jpg

script:

v = LWLibavVideoSource("d:\4.VOB", fpsnum=30000, fpsden=1001, format="YUV420P8")
a = LWLibavAudioSource("d:\4.VOB")
AudioDub(a,v)
QTGMC( Preset="Slow", EZDenoise=2.5, NoisePreset="Slow", SourceMatch=3, InputType=1)

[hech54]

Stop messing with VOB files.....they are meant to be on a DVD.

[zanzar]

Stop messing with VOB files.....they are meant to be on a DVD.

funny, you have the "DVD Decrypter" signature
so i should not use "DVD Decrypter" to get one big VOB video file and then upscale it trough MEgui ?

what is the best process to "fix the problems i mentioned" and get a best source video file that i would upscale with Megui and filters ...

[hech54]

Stop messing with VOB files.....they are meant to be on a DVD.

funny, you have the "DVD Decrypter" signature
so i should not use "DVD Decrypter" to get one big VOB video file and then upscale it trough MEgui ?

what is the best process to "fix the problems i mentioned" and get a best source video file that i would upscale with Megui and filters ...

Use something like VOB2mpeg. VOB files were thought up and designed specifically for DVD Video.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOB

[jagabo]

You're current issue has nothing to do with your VOB files. The error message "Above plugin names (mt_masktools-26.dll) contain undesirable symbols..." indicates some kind of AviSynth configuration problem. Or maybe you're opening the AviSynth script the wrong way.