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    Hi guy's

    hopefully someone can help, my problem is i've got a load of full Blu Ray Iso files, i want to stream or play of usb on my Panasonic Smart TV. I've used MakeMKV which i find great to use, now some will play perfectly but others Jump, pixelate and are unwatchable.

    is there away around this, been told to convert the MKV or ISO to MP4, questions is will i lose qaulity which is the most important thing.

    is there an prog that will keep the same size file and quality which converts to MP4 or is there away around playing all MKV's on the TV.

    any help would be great
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    Any reason why MP4? Unless you are converting the lossless audio to AAC or another apple form there is no point in MP4. Anywho, it's just a container. My TV for instance will play MKV files but not MP4 via USB.
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    Have you tried MKVtoMP4 on one of those MKV files that is causing problems?
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    no real reason only because some of the MKV's won;t play but MP4's will.

    i basically want my Full Blu Ray iso's converted without quality loss and played on my Pany TV without problems
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    "Have you tried MKVtoMP4 on one of those MKV files that is causing problems? "

    i've converted the MKV to MP4 using Brorsoft, would the quality be the same as the ISO blu Ray, the file is slightly smaller.
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    TVs have restrictions on what they will play in specific containers and some restrictions on what they will play that are independent of the type of container. Trying solve your problem by guessing isn't a good approach.

    More information would help. Use MediaInfo to generate a report on one of the MKV files that plays and another report on one that does not and post it here. (Use View->Text to generate a full report that can be copied and pasted in your post.) Also post the make and model of the TV so someone can attempt to download the manual and find out what the TV plays.
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    I'll get that info when i get home, thanks for all the replies
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    right guy's if i've done this right e goes, this is "The Forest" which won;t play correctly on my Panasonic VIERA TX-48AX630B either through Serviio or USB from the drive

    General
    UniqueID/String : 251291395619431435631939362525533424589 (0xBD0CF65D295A829FEB49861E1A17CBCD)
    CompleteName : G:\Movies\Forest,_The_(2016)_t00.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format_Version : Version 2
    FileSize/String : 18.3 GiB
    Duration/String : 1h 32mn
    OverallBitRate_Mode/String : Variable
    OverallBitRate/String : 28.1 Mbps
    Movie : Forest, The (2016)
    Encoded_Date : UTC 2016-06-27 20:13:03
    Encoded_Application/String : MakeMKV v1.9.3 win(x64-release)
    Encoded_Library/String : libmakemkv v1.9.3 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

    Video
    ID/String : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format_Profile : High@L4.1
    Format_Settings_CABAC/String : Yes
    Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 2 frames
    Format_Settings_GOP : M=1, N=10
    CodecID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration/String : 1h 32mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : Variable
    BitRate/String : 24.5 Mbps
    Width/String : 1 920 pixels
    Height/String : 1 080 pixels
    DisplayAspectRatio/String : 16:9
    FrameRate_Mode/String : Constant
    FrameRate/String : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
    ColorSpace : YUV
    ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0
    BitDepth/String : 8 bits
    ScanType/String : Progressive
    Bits-(Pixel*Frame) : 0.493
    StreamSize/String : 15.9 GiB (87%)
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Audio #1
    ID/String : 2
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Format_Settings_Mode : 16
    Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
    CodecID : A_DTS
    Duration/String : 1h 32mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : Constant
    BitRate/String : 1 509 Kbps
    Channel(s)/String : 6 channels
    ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
    FrameRate/String : 93.750 fps (512 spf)
    BitDepth/String : 24 bits
    Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
    StreamSize/String : 1 003 MiB (5%)
    Title : Surround 5.1
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : Yes
    Forced/String : No

    Audio #2
    ID/String : 3
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Format_Settings_Mode : 16
    Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
    CodecID : A_DTS
    Duration/String : 1h 32mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : Constant
    BitRate/String : 1 509 Kbps
    Channel(s)/String : 6 channels
    ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
    FrameRate/String : 93.750 fps (512 spf)
    BitDepth/String : 16 bits
    Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
    StreamSize/String : 1 003 MiB (5%)
    Title : Surround 5.1
    Language/String : Spanish
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #1
    ID/String : 4
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #2
    ID/String : 5
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : Yes
    Forced/String : No

    Text #3
    ID/String : 6
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #4
    ID/String : 7
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #5
    ID/String : 8
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #6
    ID/String : 10
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Chinese
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #7
    ID/String : 12
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Chinese
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #8
    ID/String : 14
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Danish
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #9
    ID/String : 16
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Finnish
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #10
    ID/String : 18
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Indonesian
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #11
    ID/String : 20
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Korean
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #12
    ID/String : 22
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Norwegian
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #13
    ID/String : 24
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Spanish
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #14
    ID/String : 25
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Spanish
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #15
    ID/String : 26
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : Swedish
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

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    A MediaInfo report from a MKV that does play would be quite useful as well.
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    sorry here's one that works fine

    General
    UniqueID/String : 139747424546784953870957314107231889453 (0x69225FFD48D598131EB105BC437EE82D)
    CompleteName : G:\Movies\Zootopia_t01.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format_Version : Version 2
    FileSize/String : 20.4 GiB
    Duration/String : 1h 48mn
    OverallBitRate_Mode/String : VBR
    OverallBitRate/String : 26.9 Mbps
    Movie : Zootopia
    Encoded_Date : UTC 2016-06-13 18:33:05
    Encoded_Application/String : MakeMKV v1.9.3 win(x64-release)
    Encoded_Library/String : libmakemkv v1.9.3 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

    Video
    ID/String : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format_Profile : High@L4.1
    Format_Settings_CABAC/String : Yes
    Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 4 frame2
    CodecID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration/String : 1h 48mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : VBR
    BitRate/String : 23.6 Mbps
    BitRate_Maximum/String : 36.0 Mbps
    Width/String : 1920 pixel3
    Height/String : 1080 pixel3
    DisplayAspectRatio/String : 16:9
    FrameRate_Mode/String : CFR
    FrameRate/String : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps2
    ColorSpace : YUV
    ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0
    BitDepth/String : 8 bit3
    ScanType/String : Progressive
    Bits-(Pixel*Frame) : 0.474
    StreamSize/String : 17.9 GiB (88%)
    Language/String : en
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Audio #1
    ID/String : 2
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Format_Settings_Mode : 16
    Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
    CodecID : A_DTS
    Duration/String : 1h 48mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : CBR
    BitRate/String : 1509 Kbps
    Channel(s)/String : 6 channel3
    ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
    FrameRate/String : 93.750 fps2 (512 spf)
    BitDepth/String : 24 bit2
    Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
    StreamSize/String : 1.15 GiB (6%)
    Title : Surround 5.1
    Language/String : en
    Default/String : Yes
    Forced/String : No

    Audio #2
    ID/String : 3
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
    Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
    CodecID : A_AC3
    Duration/String : 1h 48mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : CBR
    BitRate/String : 640 Kbps
    Channel(s)/String : 6 channel3
    ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
    FrameRate/String : 31.250 fps3 (1536 spf)
    Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
    StreamSize/String : 498 MiB (2%)
    Title : Surround 5.1
    Language/String : fr
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Audio #3
    ID/String : 4
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
    Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
    CodecID : A_AC3
    Duration/String : 1h 48mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : CBR
    BitRate/String : 640 Kbps
    Channel(s)/String : 6 channel3
    ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
    FrameRate/String : 31.250 fps3 (1536 spf)
    Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
    StreamSize/String : 498 MiB (2%)
    Title : Surround 5.1
    Language/String : es
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #1
    ID/String : 5
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : en
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #2
    ID/String : 7
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : en
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #3
    ID/String : 9
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : fr
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Text #4
    ID/String : 11
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : es
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

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    I'm not seeing anything. Maybe someone else will do better.

    However, from what the manual says you will have to convert DTS audio to a different format use an MP4 container.

    Your TV's manual says this:
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    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    I'm not seeing anything. Maybe someone else will do better.

    However, from what the manual says you will have to convert DTS audio to a different format use an MP4 container.

    Your TV's manual says this:
    Highly likely the audio is the issue. I have a Panasonic VT50 and Zootopia (remuxed to .mkv) and other videos won't play via DLNA "Audio format not supported" ). Never bothered to check what the audio type was since I just ran the same files through my WDTV (through DLNA) and they work fine.

    @rustyrankin

    Remuxing to MP4 probably won't help because as usually_quiet's pic shows, .mkv supports more audio file formats than .mp4 and it's probably the audio that's the issue.

    Ultimately the best solution to this type of question: "My xxx brand's HDTV media player doesn't play xxx file." is to use a standalone media player or HTPC as built in media players are very limited in theer file support.

    Another major plus to using an external palyer is that the video settings (at least on my VT50) are very limited with DLNA and the built in player. Fine for casual viewing, but the THX settings or even better tweaked settings through HDMI are much better.
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    Use MKVMergeGUI to make a copy but unticking all the unnecessary audio tracks and subtitles so you end up with Video - 1 x audio - 1 x subtitle plus chapters. No processing so no loss of quality. If the problem is the DTS audio run the new file through either Popcorn Audio Convertor or MKV2AC3 , both these programs will change the DTS track to AC3 in situ only processing the audio. Try this and see if removing all the unnecessary stuff in your original file improves thing

    Your MediaInfo file should then look like this
    General
    UniqueID/String : 251291395619431435631939362525533424589 (0xBD0CF65D295A829FEB49861E1A17CBCD)
    CompleteName : G:\Movies\Forest,_The_(2016)_t00.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format_Version : Version 2
    FileSize/String : 18.3 GiB
    Duration/String : 1h 32mn
    OverallBitRate_Mode/String : Variable
    OverallBitRate/String : 28.1 Mbps
    Movie : Forest, The (2016)
    Encoded_Date : UTC 2016-06-27 20:13:03
    Encoded_Application/String : MakeMKV v1.9.3 win(x64-release)
    Encoded_Library/String : libmakemkv v1.9.3 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

    Video
    ID/String : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format_Profile : High@L4.1
    Format_Settings_CABAC/String : Yes
    Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 2 frames
    Format_Settings_GOP : M=1, N=10
    CodecID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration/String : 1h 32mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : Variable
    BitRate/String : 24.5 Mbps
    Width/String : 1 920 pixels
    Height/String : 1 080 pixels
    DisplayAspectRatio/String : 16:9
    FrameRate_Mode/String : Constant
    FrameRate/String : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
    ColorSpace : YUV
    ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0
    BitDepth/String : 8 bits
    ScanType/String : Progressive
    Bits-(Pixel*Frame) : 0.493
    StreamSize/String : 15.9 GiB (87%)
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

    Audio #1
    ID/String : 2
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Format_Settings_Mode : 16
    Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
    CodecID : A_DTS
    Duration/String : 1h 32mn
    BitRate_Mode/String : Constant
    BitRate/String : 1 509 Kbps
    Channel(s)/String : 6 channels
    ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
    FrameRate/String : 93.750 fps (512 spf)
    BitDepth/String : 24 bits
    Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
    StreamSize/String : 1 003 MiB (5%)
    Title : Surround 5.1
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : Yes
    Forced/String : No

    Text #1
    ID/String : 4
    Format : PGS
    CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
    CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language/String : English
    Default/String : No
    Forced/String : No

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  14. run the new file through either Popcorn Audio Convertor
    Or convert it in MakeMKV

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    DTS core is better left alone since it's already a lossy format, and MP4 will not support it stick with MKV & mkvtoolnix, mux out the unnecessary audio and subtitles
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    The subs aren't useful in their current state. They could all be removed. The TV won't display PGS subtitles multiplexed in with the audio and video. It wants subtitles in MicroDVD, SubRip, or TMPlayer format (.srt, .sub or .txt), as files with the same name as the video (other than extension) placed in the same folder with the video they belong to.
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    hi guy's thanks for all the replies, i've tried all suggested but still get the same problem, i've just run a movie i converted to mp4 through mediainfo results below, the only difference i can see is the Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 2 frames has changed to 3 frames. the same move info is posted above "the forest" could this be the problem?

    General
    Complete name : G:\Movies\Forest,_The_(2016)_t00.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media
    Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    File size : 16.2 GiB
    Duration : 1h 32mn
    Overall bit rate : 24.9 Mbps
    Writing application : Lavf56.15.104

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 1h 32mn
    Bit rate : 24.5 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.493
    Stream size : 15.8 GiB (97%)
    Writing library : x264 core 135
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=4 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=50 / keyint_min=5 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=24533 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Language : English

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    ID : 2
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : 40
    Duration : 1h 32mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 640 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel(s)_Original : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 426 MiB (3%)
    Language : English
    Default : Yes
    Alternate group : 1
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    3 frames is low even for a 1080p encode, and if the video was untouched there would be no "encode" settings displayed in mediainfo
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    is that bad then?

    ok because MKV's are hit an miss on my Panasonic TV when the ISO is converted to MKV what's my best option,

    is there an ISO to MP4 converter with out quality loss?

    whats my best option
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    According to the description, MkvToMp4 will use the original video from an MKV if it is H.264 and convert non-compliant audio. I haven't tried it, so I don't know if it does a good job converting from DTS to AAC.

    I don't know of any good ISO to MP4 converters.

    If the video is the source of your playback problem, putting it in an MP4 container probably won't help. If the original DTS audio is the source of your playback problem, then converting it to AAC or AC3 will make you MKVs playable.

    [Edit]I suppose you could try mounting the ISO using DVDFab Virtual Drive or similar software and then use MkvToMp4 on the mts file containing the movie.
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    every MKV to mp4 i've done they all work in mp4 format, i just want the best quality i can get

    don;t think the DTS is the problem, i've converted to AAC and it still doesn't play, the movie has pix-elation and stutters
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    Originally Posted by rustyrankin View Post
    every MKV to mp4 i've done they all work in mp4 format, i just want the best quality i can get

    don;t think the DTS is the problem, i've converted to AAC and it still doesn't play, the movie has pix-elation and stutters
    I assume you used the Brorsoft product you mentioned for the conversion you posted. It appears to re-encode both the video and the audio, which means it is not the lossless solution you keep asking for and that your TV likely won't play all Blu-ray spec H.264 video, regardless of the container.

    BTW Brorsoft it is another trade name owned by Aimersoft, a notorious spammer and crapware outfit that uses ffmpeg and other freeware in many of its products without adhering to the licensing requirements. http://www.macworld.com/article/1153685/web-apps/speaking-spammers.html
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  23. What about XMedia Recode? I know that you could take your .mkv file (you would need to rip the .iso to .mkv) and copy the video and audio, remuxing it into an .mp4 container.
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    right think i need to sit down and try one thing at a time instead of jumping from one thing to another, i've tried Mezzmo, Serviio, TVmobili, with joy real joy, some will play some won't.

    Going to stick with Serviio as i prefer that and running one MKV file through different prog's until i find a working solution, if there is one!!!!!
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    I would have a mod change the title. If you want the best quality, don't touch it. Audio is one thing, but encoding the video is a whole different ball game. You keep asking the same question but the title is incorrect

    "without quality loss" = untouched video = Full BD / Remux
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    right sticking with MakeMKV i've taken the Audio and converted to AAC Audio and taken the sub's out and it still pix-elates and sticks

    anybody see anything?

    General
    Unique ID : 214037952394516149208303998788544367160 (0xA10635CE0A9BA517B4E6E711C3B60A38)
    Complete name : G:\Forest,_The_(2016)_t00.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 2
    File size : 16.2 GiB
    Duration : 1h 32mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
    Movie name : Forest, The (2016)
    Encoded date : UTC 2016-07-11 18:45:49
    Writing application : MakeMKV v1.9.3 win(x64-release)
    Writing library : libmakemkv v1.9.3 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
    Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=10
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 1h 32mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Language : English
    Default : No
    Forced : No

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : A_AAC
    Duration : 1h 32mn
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Title : Stereo
    Language : English
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No

    Menu
    00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
    00:05:16.441 : en:Chapter 02
    00:12:00.344 : en:Chapter 03
    00:17:20.497 : en:Chapter 04
    00:23:25.153 : en:Chapter 05
    00:29:17.589 : en:Chapter 06
    00:34:38.284 : en:Chapter 07
    00:40:09.865 : en:Chapter 08
    00:47:34.935 : en:Chapter 09
    00:53:04.681 : en:Chapter 10
    00:58:56.908 : en:Chapter 11
    01:03:52.328 : en:Chapter 12
    01:08:35.069 : en:Chapter 13
    01:12:50.407 : en:Chapter 14
    01:19:52.454 : en:Chapter 15
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    Originally Posted by rustyrankin View Post
    right sticking with MakeMKV i've taken the Audio and converted to AAC Audio and taken the sub's out and it still pix-elates and sticks

    anybody see anything?
    Yes. The version of "The Forest" which you say played correctly is not the original. The video as well as the audio were re-encoded. Since the video was re-encoded, there was some quality loss. Maybe there was not enough quality loss to be obvious, but it isn't possible to re-encode to lossy AVC without some loss of quality.

    It should now be abundantly clear that your TV does not play all AVC Blu-ray-spec video correctly. Maybe there are some sections in the original where the video's bitrate is too high, or maybe the original used AVC encoding options which your TV doesn't like. The solution is obvious. Those that don't play need to be re-encoded (video, audio, or both), or you need to play them with something other than the TV.
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    "t should now be abundantly clear that your TV does not play all AVC Blu-ray-spec video correctly. Maybe there are some sections in the original where the video's bitrate is too high, or maybe the original used AVC encoding options which your TV doesn't like. The solution is obvious. Those that don't play need to be re-encoded (video, audio, or both), or you need to play them with something other than the TV."

    i agree,

    i've turned on transcoding on Serviio which now plays all the movies, the info says the MKV files are MPEG2-TS files, i take it there will be loss in quality when Serviio transcodes?

    but at least they play
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    Originally Posted by rustyrankin View Post
    i've turned on transcoding on Serviio which now plays all the movies, the info says the MKV files are MPEG2-TS files, i take it there will be loss in quality when Serviio transcodes?
    Yep, the word transcode & encode mean... coding
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