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    ,7z means its a zipped/compressed file, compressed by a program called 7zip for easier storage and transport..very very common

    7zip and other free programs are available, that will unzip the file into a named folder containing all the files, needed to either run or install the program
    the process of unzipping is called 'extraction'

    Mediainfo should also be available as an .exe file for direct install
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    re: post #31, Thankyou. Put one of the pavtube files .mpg that play through Mediainfo. It says:

    Container & general info:
    MPEG-PS 1.37GB, 1hr 42min
    overall bit rate mode: variable
    overal bit rate: 1 918 kpbs
    1 video stream: MPEG video
    1 audio stream: MPEG audio

    First video stream:
    1 751 kpbds, 720*480 (16:9), at 29 970 (30000/1001) fps, MPEG video (NTSC) (version 2) (main@main)

    First audio stream:
    128 kpbs, 44.1 khz, 2 channels, MPEG audio (version 1) (layer 2)
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post

    #27 I know you did not suggest rip by VLC. You suggested record. I did that, it didn't work. Noticed VLC had an option to 'rip', so I give it a try whilst I was at it. Didn't work either. Perhaps what VLC means by the 'rip' option button is different to what the technically accepted definition of what rip is.
    What you were doing was indeed not the technically accepted definition of ripping. VLC doesn't have a rip option. VLC has a Convert/Save option. Convert /Save allows recording video and audio from a DVD in various container file types using a selection of video and audio types supported by the container chosen by the user. Convert/Save re-encodes the audio and video streams that my method captures unchanged. Some of VLCs encoders are crude with limited options. I'm not surprised that your TV couldn't play the files created via Convert/Save.

    Did the .mpg produced by my method play correctly on the computer? If the original DVD plays as it should in a set top DVD player and the .mpg file my method produced plays correctly on a computer, I would say that your TV's media player is the problem. All TV media players have limited playback capability, but some are more limited than others.

    A dedicated media player box as suggested earlier could make your life easier. At least then you would have only one piece of hardware that you needed to please, not several. Some media players small enough to be very portable, and are fairly inexpensive.
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    #33 the .mpg file produced by your suggestion does play correctly on computer. So does the dvd file put thru dvdfab. Original dvd plays fine in regular dvd player connected to tv.

    Had a look at media player boxes. Nearly all for streaming & expensive. One seemed to be for my purpose, looks like it's about the size/half the size of what VCR players used to be, & expensive which defeats the purpose of original question. Perhaps media player boxes are more widely available in other countries. Hardware is notoriously much higher priced in Australia than other countries, has been for years, as we have to pay extra to get it down here, amongst raft of other costs built in to the price. If you were going to suggest it, no, I do not want to import one from the US, creates can of worms of other problems which I'd rather not go into, going off onto another track, want to stay focused on original problem.
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    Idea on slightly different track: How to remove logo? Can't find instructions that work. File size is huge, but works i.e plays fine on tv. Very good in fact.
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    #33 the .mpg file produced by your suggestion does play correctly on computer. So does the dvd file put thru dvdfab. Original dvd plays fine in regular dvd player connected to tv.

    Had a look at media player boxes. Nearly all for streaming & expensive. One seemed to be for my purpose, looks like it's about the size/half the size of what VCR players used to be, & expensive which defeats the purpose of original question. Perhaps media player boxes are more widely available in other countries. Hardware is notoriously much higher priced in Australia than other countries, has been for years, as we have to pay extra to get it down here, amongst raft of other costs built in to the price. If you were going to suggest it, no, I do not want to import one from the US, creates can of worms of other problems which I'd rather not go into, going off onto another track, want to stay focused on original problem.
    Fair is fair. Some of your countrymen are guilty of taunting the N. American members of this forum by suggesting electronics that aren't available here, like Blu-ray recorders for over-the-air TV.

    I'm not suggesting you buy this item. It's just an illustration of how tiny some of the inexpensive made in China media players are now. This one happens to ship from New South Wales. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mini-Full-HD-1080P-USB-Media-Player-HDMI-AV-SD-MMC-MKV-AVI-...-/131415872861
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    Idea on slightly different track: How to remove logo? Can't find instructions that work. File size is huge, but works i.e plays fine on tv. Very good in fact.
    This logo is produced by which software?
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    $59.00 for kodi and its all from china ... it is in sydney from an ebay seller ready to deliver ... buy now have it arrive this wednesday.

    Most include applications from streaming services ... you choose to use them or not

    Mind you I once bought a 22hp briggs and stratton engine for my rideon from detroit usa and it arrived here in 4 days ... must have been private jet ... thats fast

    My media player is an astone unit ($149.00) 3 years ago ... got to have rm / rmvb support

    Removing logos ... all your doing is blending to blur them out ... my preference for ota recordings is to leave it be ... 99.999% are encoded into the video
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    Combined cost of the 2 dvd's trying to convert is $23. These media players you're suggesting I purchase are worth 3 times that. Want to convert the 2 dvd's to keep on very small portable hard drive. As I don't have own home & live between different places, the less stuff I have the better.

    Australia's current population around 24m. Current US population around 323m (sorry if these figures are incorrect) so of course there's more selection plus you're probably closer to China where it all comes from. We're small fry compared to you. I've never heard of these media players, nor seen them in shops. In Aust there's 2 electrical chains & another stationery one that's gone into limited range electrical. I've never heard of blu ray recorders. Blu ray players & regular dvd players and regular dvd players that record free to air tv for personal watching are certainly widely available. I've heard China gets full range of personal electrical stuff first as test market, then eventually we & other far flung places get it further down the line. Makes sense as less population. Used to work with guy from England, he found it very hard to cope with the what he called very limited supermarket range, apparently it's substantially wider there. He was a bloke talking about supermarket range.

    If you're reading this & you're from Aust & don't agree with what I've said in the previous paragraph: I'm a girl, you're likely a bloke that's more into electrical & technical stuff than I & you likely have a natural aptitude for such things. For various reasons, I rarely go shopping, only if it's essential. For a start, I've just come out of an intensive yr being a carer for my mother. Both parents passed in the last yr, I've had a lot on & literally spent the last yr either in hospitals, nursing homes & medical places. Prior to that, a whole lot of other stuff went on. I'm not up with the latest in such matters, as you've likely already gathered. That's why I didn't know about the unzipping thing.
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  10. Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    Combined cost of the 2 dvd's trying to convert is $23. These media players you're suggesting I purchase are worth 3 times that. Want to convert the 2 dvd's to keep on very small portable hard drive. As I don't have own home & live between different places, the less stuff I have the better.
    So follow his advise - such player is portable and universal and you may use it multiple number of times - even if it is 3 times more expensive than DVD it gives you substantially more freedom in allowed video/audio/container formats.
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    can the specs mentioned in my post #32 be inputted into free converting software that's likely to work?
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  12. Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    can the specs mentioned in my post #32 be inputted into free converting software that's likely to work?
    This is standard MPEG so no issues expected - it looks like you have issues with ripping correctly DVD not converting it to some other format.
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    When you get the chance check the specs on the converted file that doesn't play on the TV
    While I'm sure it's within mpeg2 specs it very Likely does not match the other file that does
    Seeing the differences will give you some idea, of what Ali this is about
    And yes you should be able to specify the specs for conversion

    BTW Au is approximately 7500km from China Beijing to Sydney
    11,700km to San Francisco Calif USA Pacific coast
    You are quite a it closer to China than we are
    Yes we are a larger market for them, but don't sell Oz short, if it isn't prohibited, it is available,

    As for the Blu-ray recorder
    I think he meant hi def HDD DVR OTA recording and HDMI input recording, not recording directly on to a Blu-ray disc
    We have work arounds, but it involves imported Daisy chained electronics
    Not one easily available consumer market device
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    Combined cost of the 2 dvd's trying to convert is $23. These media players you're suggesting I purchase are worth 3 times that. Want to convert the 2 dvd's to keep on very small portable hard drive. As I don't have own home & live between different places, the less stuff I have the better.

    Australia's current population around 24m. Current US population around 323m (sorry if these figures are incorrect) so of course there's more selection plus you're probably closer to China where it all comes from. We're small fry compared to you. I've never heard of these media players, nor seen them in shops. In Aust there's 2 electrical chains & another stationery one that's gone into limited range electrical. I've never heard of blu ray recorders. Blu ray players & regular dvd players and regular dvd players that record free to air tv for personal watching are certainly widely available. I've heard China gets full range of personal electrical stuff first as test market, then eventually we & other far flung places get it further down the line. Makes sense as less population. Used to work with guy from England, he found it very hard to cope with the what he called very limited.
    Nice theory, but wrong. As it turns out, the population figures above are largely irrelevant to this situation, and Australia is closer to China, by a few thousand km!

    Even here in N.America, we cannot go to a local shop and buy the media players being discussed. They must be purchased on eBay or another Internet shopping site, and many times the item purchased is shipped direct from China.

    BTW, if a video contains a logo and you try to remove it, you'll likely end up with an unsightly blob in its place. You need to turn off logo insertion, if that is possible, or buy the program if the logo is the result of using a free or trial version. That is why I asked about the software!
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    Originally Posted by theewizard View Post

    As for the Blu-ray recorder
    I think he meant hi def HDD DVR OTA recording and HDMI input recording, not recording directly on to a Blu-ray disc
    We have work arounds, but it involves imported Daisy chained electronics
    Not one easily available consumer market device
    No, they have or had high-definition over-the-air video recorders from Panasonic with the ability to record either to their hard drive or to BD-R. These recorders don't record from HDMI. They can only record from standard definition analog connections or DTV from the tuner. The UK, New Zealand and Japan has or had them as well.
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    I never knew there was an OTA recorder that would record direct to blu-ray
    was this live record to BD, or Transfer to BD from HDD after recording?
    read and learn
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    one of these might do the job, no need to use all the internet streaming options, just use the USB port and play your own converted videos

    $43 AU
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4K-TV-Box-Android-5-1-Quad-core-2-4GHz-WiFi-1GB-RAM-8GB-ROM...3D131415872861

    $23 AU
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M8-Quad-Core-Android-Smart-XBMC-MX-wifi-5G-4K-KIT-KAT-Ultra...3D131415872861

    shipped AU post from in country
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    logo is Aimersoft dvd ripper. Don't want to buy it as a) due to what discovered in my efforts to solve this problem, it's not necessarily going to work on everything, even though won't have many in future & it does work on current 2 problems b) other reasons as well, if I say going to open another can of worms, want to avoid c) I work full time in what I've got going on, but I'm not employed, have huge medical bills & have to be careful with spending as returning to work for various reasons is yrs away d) if I was an expert like you it probably would work on everything, I'm not. Even if you think you're not an expert I reckon you are
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    logo is Aimersoft dvd ripper.
    Since Aimerisoft DVD Ripper added a logo, we can be certain that it re-encoded the video from your DVD. The question is, to what?

    Open the file produced using my VLC record method in MediaInfo. Use View->Text then cut and paste the entire contents of the window into a post. Do the same with the corresponding file produced by Aimerisoft DVD Ripper. Maybe then someone can tell you what is so peculiar about this DVD, and how to turn it into something that works using free tools.
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    one of the pavtube files .mpg that play, it's Mediainfo says:

    Container & general info:
    MPEG-PS 1.37GB, 1hr 42min
    overall bit rate mode: variable
    overal bit rate: 1 918 kpbs
    1 video stream: MPEG video
    1 audio stream: MPEG audio

    First video stream:
    1 751 kpbds, 720*480 (16:9), at 29 970 (30000/1001) fps, MPEG video (NTSC) (version 2) (main@main)

    First audio stream:
    128 kpbs, 44.1 khz, 2 channels, MPEG audio (version 1) (layer 2)


    file put through dvdfab, then handbrake that does not play, Mediainfo says:

    Container & general info:
    MPEG-4 (base media version 2) 910 Mib, 1hr, 38min
    overall bit rate mode: variable
    overal bit rate: 1 289 kpbs
    1 video stream: AVC
    1 audio stream: AAC

    encoded date UTC 2036-02-0606 062816
    tagged date UTC 2036-02-0606 062816

    First video stream:
    1 123 kpbds, 720*436 (2:35:1), at 25 000 fps, AVC (main@L4) (CABAC/4 ref frames)
    First audio stream:
    English , 160 kpbs, 48.0 Khz, 2 channels, AAC (LC)
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    re:

    Open the file produced using my VLC record method in MediaInfo. Use View->Text then cut and paste the entire contents of the window into a post. Do the same with the corresponding file produced by Aimerisoft DVD Ripper. Maybe then someone can tell you what is so peculiar about this DVD, and how to turn it into something that works using free tools.

    a VLC record file:
    General
    Complete name : C:\Users\Suzanne\Desktop\50vlc-record.mpg
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 5.18 GiB
    Duration : 2h 3mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 6 018 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix : Custom
    Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
    Format settings, picture structure : Frame
    Duration : 2h 3mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Maximum bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Standard : Component
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Interlaced
    Scan order : Top Field First
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Time code of first frame : 01:00:04:05
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed : Open
    Color primaries : BT.601 PAL
    Transfer characteristics : BT.470 System B, BT.470 System G
    Matrix coefficients : BT.601

    Audio #1
    ID : 128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Compression mode : Lossy

    Audio #2
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 2h 3mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 384 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -96ms
    Stream size : 338 MiB (6%)

    an aimersoft logo file:
    General
    Complete name : C:\Users\Suzanne\Desktop\FIFTYmp4.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media
    Codec ID : isom
    File size : 8.52 GiB
    Duration : 2h 0mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 10.2 Mbps
    Codirector : codirector
    Production studio : studio
    ContentType : Unknown Type
    Encoded date : UTC 2016-04-27 11:08:17
    Tagged date : UTC 2016-04-27 11:08:33

    Video
    ID : 2
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Baseline@L3
    Format settings, CABAC : No
    Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
    Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=25
    Muxing mode : Container profile=Baseline@4.1
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 2h 0mn
    Bit rate : 9 982 Kbps
    Width : 1 280 pixels
    Height : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 24.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.451
    Stream size : 8.38 GiB (98%)
    Language : English

    Audio
    ID : 1
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : 40
    Duration : 2h 0mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 165 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 230 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 142 MiB (2%)
    Language : English

    Menu #1
    00:00:00.000 : Chapter1
    00:10:00.000 : Chapter2
    00:13:51.000 : Chapter3
    00:19:40.000 : Chapter4
    00:23:05.000 : Chapter5
    00:28:35.000 : Chapter6
    00:33:40.000 : Chapter7
    00:38:38.000 : Chapter8
    00:44:33.000 : Chapter9
    00:48:12.000 : Chapter10
    00:54:31.000 : Chapter11
    00:59:14.000 : Chapter12
    01:03:31.000 : Chapter13
    01:10:49.000 : Chapter14
    01:18:00.000 : Chapter15
    01:26:31.000 : Chapter16
    01:32:32.000 : Chapter17
    01:40:19.000 : Chapter18
    01:47:00.000 : Chapter19
    01:53:32.000 : Chapter20
    02:00:08.000 : Chapter21

    Menu #2
    ID : 3
    Codec ID : text
    Duration : 2h 0mn
    Encoded date : UTC 2016-04-27 11:08:33
    Tagged date : UTC 2016-04-27 11:08:33
    00:00:00.000 : Chapter1
    00:10:00.000 : Chapter2
    00:13:51.000 : Chapter3
    00:19:40.000 : Chapter4
    00:23:05.000 : Chapter5
    00:28:35.000 : Chapter6
    00:33:40.000 : Chapter7
    00:38:38.000 : Chapter8
    00:44:33.000 : Chapter9
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    01:03:31.000 : Chapter13
    01:10:49.000 : Chapter14
    01:18:00.000 : Chapter15
    01:26:31.000 : Chapter16
    01:32:32.000 : Chapter17
    01:40:19.000 : Chapter18
    01:47:00.000 : Chapter19
    01:53:32.000 : Chapter20
    02:00:08.000 : Chapter21
    Bit rate mode : VBR

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    Please read the original post. Before posting any reply to this thread, please read the original post again. If your reply is not answering original post, your reply is irrelevant.

    Nice attitude. Way to alienate people!

    Having said that, your problem seems really trivial to me. Winx DVD Ripper will extract your main movie directly to .mpg (no surprise there, as all official DVDs are MPEG), losslessly, sans transcoding. AnyDVD will rip it too. You can use DVD Shrink too, afterwards, but the files need to to have their protection removed first, of course (by either of the former two, for instance).

    Secondly, stop using Ripbot264, Handbrake, etc, before you have even diagnosed the issue, methodologically. Otherwise you won't know whether you're looking at a transcoding problem, or just something that is a-faul at the source.

    So, can you rip the DVD properly? If not, no need to look further. Like when you have ripped your DVD with, say, Winx DVD Ripper, check its consistency first; like

    Code:
    ffmpeg.exe -v error -i extracted.mpg -f null - >error.log 2>&1
    If the source is clean, then, well... you're done! As no transcoding of any kind took place; so there'd be no reason your tv won't play it.
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    All this wasted breath on someone who doesn't give a rat'* a** enough to post his/her television's specs or even make/model.
    Suckers.
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    re:

    Open the file produced using my VLC record method in MediaInfo. Use View->Text then cut and paste the entire contents of the window into a post. Do the same with the corresponding file produced by Aimerisoft DVD Ripper. Maybe then someone can tell you what is so peculiar about this DVD, and how to turn it into something that works using free tools.

    a VLC record file:
    General
    Complete name : C:\Users\Suzanne\Desktop\50vlc-record.mpg
    Format : MPEG-PS
    File size : 5.18 GiB
    Duration : 2h 3mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 6 018 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix : Custom
    Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
    Format settings, picture structure : Frame
    Duration : 2h 3mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Maximum bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Standard : Component
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Interlaced
    Scan order : Top Field First
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Time code of first frame : 01:00:04:05
    Time code source : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed : Open
    Color primaries : BT.601 PAL
    Transfer characteristics : BT.470 System B, BT.470 System G
    Matrix coefficients : BT.601

    Audio #1
    ID : 128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Compression mode : Lossy

    Audio #2
    ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Muxing mode : DVD-Video
    Duration : 2h 3mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 384 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -96ms
    Stream size : 338 MiB (6%)

    an aimersoft logo file:
    General
    Complete name : C:\Users\Suzanne\Desktop\FIFTYmp4.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media
    Codec ID : isom
    File size : 8.52 GiB
    Duration : 2h 0mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 10.2 Mbps
    Codirector : codirector
    Production studio : studio
    ContentType : Unknown Type
    Encoded date : UTC 2016-04-27 11:08:17
    Tagged date : UTC 2016-04-27 11:08:33

    Video
    ID : 2
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Baseline@L3
    Format settings, CABAC : No
    Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
    Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=25
    Muxing mode : Container profile=Baseline@4.1
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 2h 0mn
    Bit rate : 9 982 Kbps
    Width : 1 280 pixels
    Height : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 24.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.451
    Stream size : 8.38 GiB (98%)
    Language : English

    Audio
    ID : 1
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : 40
    Duration : 2h 0mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 165 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 230 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
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    The MediaInfo report for the video stream and second audio stream in the recording made by VLC appear standard for a PAL DVD, except for the the video part of the report showing "Standard: Component". I would have expected "Standard: PAL", but I haven't seen MediaInfo reports for many PAL DVDs. Based on what Aimerisoft DVD Ripper did, I'm guessing this is progressive video encoded as interlaced at 25 fps (frame per second). A 24 fps progressive film source is frequently treated this way to make it compatible with the PAL portion of the DVD spec, which doesn't permit progressive 24 fps video. The type of video encoding used is so common in PAL countries that I wouldn't expect a TV media player to reject it. The most unusual thing about this file is the audio streams. The first audio stream appears empty. Also, most mpg files only have one audio stream.

    Maybe the TV media player fails to open the file because the first audio stream is empty. Both my TV media players play the first audio stream in an mpg or ts file and ignore the rest. If the first audio stream is the problem this mpg file would work if it were re-multiplexed with the only the second audio stream. Unfortunately right now I can't think of a simple one program method to do it using only free software.

    The file created by Aimerisoft DVD Ripper is huge because the program upscaled the video from 720x576 to 1280x720, used constant bitrate encoding, and use the Baseline profile for encoding AVC instead of a more efficient profile. It does have just one audio stream, and it isn't empty.
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  25. I's bazaar isn't it? All this time posting demands could have been much better spent on more co-operative posts trying to help others offer sensible advice. Me.... I read the opening post days ago and just closed the thread when I got to the instructions on how to reply. Why even ask if you already know what the correct answer is? Red flag......

    The comments about Australia made me smile. I live in Australia and I'm pretty certain we're no different to the rest of the world. Labour in China isn't more expensive for manufacturing electronics that'll be shipped here. In some respects we're better off than the US. Most PAL TVs accept a NTSC input and most PAL DVD/Bluray players will play NTSC discs.
    When it comes to TVs there's TVs with built-in USB media players that'll play just about anything. There's TVs with built-in media players that are more restrictive. There's TVs with built-in media players that'll hardly play anything that's not a jpeg, and there's TVs with built in media players that'll only play files the TV itself records via USB. Just about every Bluray player sold today has a USB input for playing many file types and different video/audio codecs. We're just like the US, only without Donald Trump and anywhere near as much telecine.
    While I'll confess most retailers of things electronic do seem to have fairly useless web sites, there's about eight different multimedia players listed on this one. I'm not saying they're necessarily cheap or even the best option. I'm just saying.....
    http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/c/technology/media-players-home-enterta.../media-players

    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    BEFORE POSTING ANY REPLY, PLEASE CAREFULLY READ THIS POST again & REPLY TO THIS POST ONLY. Please take into account what this post contains & the questions within it. It's obvious I've tried as hard as I can. Very frustrating people are not taking into account what I've said. Can not believe it is this difficult.
    The very first reply asked for the only information that really matters. Everything else was just a list of what SuzeT couldn't do and not even remotely specific enough to know why what you couldn't do failed to work.

    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    KarMa- As I said in the original post, already did that. File either plays for couple of mins then stops or doesn't play at all 'can not read file.' If I can do all that I did in original post, obviously I did not do it incorrectly. Yet again, READ THE ORIGINAL POST. IF NOT REPLYING TO THAT DON"T REPLY. For goodness sake, how hard is it to do that? Obviously my problem is too difficult for you, no one so far has the skills to tackle it.
    Handbrake can encode using two different video encoders. The TV's are very unlikely to accept one of them. Even if they will decode h264 video (the more common type), it's quite possible to encode it using settings a TV doesn't support. It's even possible to put video a TV does support into an MKV or MP4 in such a way the TV can't play it. "Tried dvd decrypter then handbrake" really tells us nothing, aside from the fact DVD Decrypter and Handbrake didn't come in a 7z file.

    There's no "standard" anything. H264/AVC video, High Profile 4.1, AC3 audio, and an MP4 container is probably about as standard as it gets these days but it seems h264/AVC video support is looking doubtful now.

    "File plays couple of mins then stops" sounds more like a problem with the USB device than the contents of said device, which I can't name specifically because as best as I can tell that's also a secret. "Can not read file" could mean anything from an unsupported audio or video type to a problem with the "USB"..... and do these same problems occur with all the TVs SuzeT will be using or is it a case of one TV won't play the files, therefore none of them can?

    Is your computer a laptop by any chance SuzeT? Because if it is and it has a DVI or HDMI out they tend to make pretty good media players and then the TV doesn't have to support anything.... except HDMI.
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  26. Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    Maybe the TV media player fails to open the file because the first audio stream is empty. Both my TV media players play the first audio stream in an mpg or ts file and ignore the rest. If the first audio stream is the problem this mpg file would work if it were re-multiplexed with the only the second audio stream. Unfortunately right now I can't think of a simple one program method to do it using only free software.

    The file created by Aimerisoft DVD Ripper is huge because the program upscaled the video from 720x576 to 1280x720, used constant bitrate encoding, and use the Baseline profile for encoding AVC instead of a more efficient profile. It does have just one audio stream, and it isn't empty.
    Thinking about it a little more, and given 5 days into the thread we're discovering mpeg2 and program stream appears to have potential, I think a good option for SuzeT might be to rip the DVDs with MakeMKV, then when it's done, open the MKVs it creates with TSMuxer and remux them as TS files. If the TV supports mpeg2 video, TS files would probably be as compatible as an mpeg file, or pretty close. If there's more than one type of audio on the DVD, AC3 would probably be the sensible option. She could try the MKVs created by MakeMKV first but I'd be less optimistic. The TV might also be less inclined to care about the aspect ratio for MKVs. If it spits them out though, remuxing them as TS files with TSMuxer would be my next try.
    It's a two step process and the files will probably be quite large, but there's no re-encoding involved and if they're PAL DVDs, ripped as PAL mpeg2 video in TS files for playing with a PAL TV's media player.... how could it go wrong?

    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    Used to work with guy from England, he found it very hard to cope with the what he called very limited supermarket range, apparently it's substantially wider there. He was a bloke talking about supermarket range.
    That reminded me of the first time my sister's future other half visited from England. She picked him up from the airport and he enquired as to whether our family was quite wealthy because we lived in a suburb where all the houses were free-standing and on quarter acre blocks. He hadn't been to a supermarket yet though, so that hadn't given it away. A few years later his folks arrived for a visit. My sister took them out for an hour or two drive one day. Just before they arrived his parents enquired as to whether they'd left Victoria. Maybe they stopped at a supermarket and thought the limited range meant they were out in the wilderness somewhere.
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    other day when checked Aimersoft file, it started quicker & sounded good & went for longer so I thought it worked. Went to check it the whole way through and it plays for several minutes longer than the others, then said 'can not read file.'

    ps in case you were wondering, prefer to watch dvds on tv rather than computer, also find my eyes get sore. Can sleep after watching tv but not after being on computer. Probably contributing would be not remembering to blink enough to prevent/help dry eyes. It's a laptop, didn't know needed to specify. On Windows 7, nothing I'm on is Apple or using any Apple software/hardware/other products.
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    usb stick using is Samsung 500gb ssd, have reformated it couple of times to clear the data. Laptop is Samsung too. TV's are Panasonic (where currently am), Sony, Samsung, another one have to check which & an a4 like size GVA. The Sony would have most everything, the rest would be the bottom of the range as they're used for tv - weren't bought to do other functions. Don't have any blu ray recorders. Tv's were bought guessing would be over 2yrs ago now. Internet is usb stick.
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    My Vizio TV only plays JPEG
    I use the laptop PC or a media player to play ripped/converted/ backed up content
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  30. Some TVs don't support hard drives via USB, just thumb drives. There was a thread here not so long ago where someone had a TV like that and he couldn't get a hard drive to work. A SSD probably wouldn't be any different. I'm not sure why it didn't support hard drives exactly, but the manual said it didn't. It's probably not that common, but your TV might be an uncommon type. We know the one you're using at the moment is a Panasonic. Imagine how much fun it'd be if we knew the model number. Manuals could be downloaded, specifications determined.....

    I assume the hard drive draws it's power from the USB port? Not that a SSD should require a great deal, but maybe the TV isn't supplying enough.

    The reason I asked about your laptop is because you can bypass all this hassle by using it as a media player instead of the media players built into the TVs. Chances are the laptop has a HDMI out. If so, you can connect it to the TV and use it to do the decoding while the TV does the displaying. Not much different to connecting a a Bluray player to a TV really. Usually laptops can run their own display and a secondary display (or TV) independently if you want to continue using it as a laptop while watching video on the TV. It'd just require a decent length HDMI lead.
    Or you can probably connect the laptop to the TV via the router if the TVs are connected to the internet. If they're set up for that sort of thing you could probably stream the video from the laptop to the TVs, although it might be a hassle given you need to connect to different TVs in different locations. A HDMI lead would be easier.
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