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    Trying to copy 2 dvds to usb stick to .mp4, .mpeg2 or .mpg formats, to play on tv (non-apple) using free software. 'Pavtube free' worked on 2 other dvds, not these.

    Tried 'video to video converter', TEnccoder, 'any video converter', anyburn, anydvd, dvd shrink, wondershare, monavi, winx dvd ripper, magic dvd ripper, dvd decrypter, aimersoft dvd ripper, acrok.

    Tried dvd decrypter then handbrake.
    Tried dvd fab then ripbot 264 v 1.1.7.0.
    Tried dvd fab then XviD4PSP.

    Can't download HDConnvertTox.

    Downloaded several recent versions Staxrip, no .exe file, can't work out how to open software. These links show how to use older versions, nothing to show how to use more recent: http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/staxrip_h264_page2.html , http://www.dvd-guides.com/guides/dvdrip/243-how-to-rip-dvd-to-h264-xvid-using-staxrip, https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/272209-StaxRip-XviD-Install-Guide

    Will staxrip work if ripbot didn't? if so, is there step by step instructions like I've above, for recent versions?
    If not, what should I put dvd fab files thru now so it works? Anything else you suggest will work?

    When I stay it doesn't work, file either doesn't play on tv or plays for a minute or two then says cannot read file.

    Thankyou so much for your help, I really appreciate it.
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    You NEED to know what type of container(mp4, avi etc etc) and which video and audio "codec(s)" the TELEVISION accepts.
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    .mp4, .mpg
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    .mp4, .mpg
    Again....those are "containers" which can carry any number of different video and audio "codecs". Your television manual goes into MUCH more detail than just that.
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  5. My safe bet is Xvid (Dvix) - if TV is not capable to play Xvid then probably it is not capable to play anything and for DVD (SD) Xvid should be OK.
    I would consider to use avi instead mkv or mp4 container.
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    Originally Posted by pandy View Post
    if TV is not capable to play Xvid then probably it is not capable to play anything
    H.264 compatibility is much more likely anymore, with or without Xvid compatibility. If anything a HDTV is more likely to support MPEG2 (at least in the US), because MPEG2 is used in OTA broadcasting. My Sony TV has extremely basic smart functions, it can play .TS/.MPG 1080i MPEG2 video and MP2 audio from a USB stick, that's about it for video playback off a stick. It won't play AC3 off the stick for some reason too, I believe they would have to pay a separate royalty to Dolby for this function and so decided not to. Even though AC3 is used in ATSC OTA.


    Originally Posted by pandy View Post
    I would consider to use avi instead mkv or mp4 container.
    OP said his TV only accepts MP4 and MPG so I'm not sure where that is coming from.

    Maybe OP can share his TV's make and model#.
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    Thanks for your replies.

    I did not say tv only plays those formats, those are what I want it in (or .mp2). Why? As per above original purpose, want to be able to plug & play with any standard, basic non apple tv with usb slot. Keeping it as simple & basic as possible. Do not want to download other software to make it play - defeats original purpose. Want the conversion in a standard format that will play on any standard non apple tv with usb slot using the tv's inbuilt media player, hence I believe that format to be .mp4, .mpg or .mp2.

    I do not have instruction manuals to any tv's I access - don't own any of them & live between multiple places. Hence need for original purpose in the first place. As per above, if the solution is going by the original request, no need for the manuals or to know which format tv plays if it's put in standard format. Again, it all comes back to the original post.

    Will staxrip work if ripbot didn't? if so, is there step by step instructions like I've above, for recent versions?
    If not, what should I put dvd fab files thru now so it works? Anything else you suggest will work?

    As per original post, free software only for the conversion.
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    Thanks for your replies.

    I did not say tv only plays those formats, those are what I want it in (or .mp2). Why? As per above original purpose, want to be able to plug & play with any standard, basic non apple tv with usb slot.
    Sony doesn't care what Philips does/plays via USB, LG doesn't care what Panasonic does/plays via USB, etc etc etc.
    No such thing as "standard".
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    As per original post, free software only for the conversion.
    Handbrake can encode most anything into H.264/AAC, muxed in a .MP4.
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    This is what my television can play.....how about yours?
    English
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    Supported File Formats for USB Mode
    Media
    Extension
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    Notes
    Video
    .dat, .mpg,
    .mpeg
    Mpeg1-2
    1080P@30fps, 50Mbit/sec
    .ts, .trp,
    .tp, .m2ts
    MPEG2 , H.264,
    VC1, AVS, MVC
    H.264:1080Px2@25fps, 1080P@50fps MVC:1080P@ 24fps Other: 1080P@30fps -
    50Mbit/sec
    .vob
    MPEG2
    1080P@30fps 50Mbit/sec
    .mkv
    MPEG1-2-4,
    H.264
    H.264:1080Px2@25fps, 1080P@ 50fps, 1080P@30fps, 50Mbit/sec
    .mp4
    MPEG4,
    XviD,
    H.264
    H.264:1080Px2@25fps, 1080P@ 50fps, 1080P@30fps, 50Mbit/sec
    .avi
    MPEG2-4,
    Xvid,
    H.264
    H.264:1080Px2@25fps, 1080P@ 50fps, 1080P@30fps, 50Mbit/sec
    .fla,
    .flv
    H.264, Sorenson
    H.263
    H.264:1080Px2@25fps, 1080P@50fps, 1080P@30fps, 40Mbit/sec
    .3gp
    MPEG4, H.264
    1920x1080@30P
    20Mbit/sec
    .asf, .wmv
    VC1
    1080P@30fps, 50Mbit/sec
    Audio
    .mp3
    MPEG1/2 Layer
    1/2/3 (MP3)
    Layer1: 32Kbps ~ 448Kbps (Bit rate) / 16KHz ~ 48KHz (Sampling rate)
    Layer2: 8Kbps ~ 384Kbps (Bit rate) / 16KHz ~ 48KHz (Sampling rate)
    Layer3: 8Kbps ~ 320Kbps (Bit rate) / 16KHz ~ 48KHz (Sampling rate)
    .wav
    LPCM
    .WMA/
    ASF
    WMA, WMA Pro
    WMA: 128bps ~ 320Kbps (Bit rate) / 8KHz ~ 48Khz (Sampling rate)
    WMA
    Pro:
    <
    768kbps
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    rate)
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    96KHz
    (Sampling
    rate)
    .m4a/ .aac
    AAC, HEAAC
    Free Format (Bit rate) / 8KHz ~ 48KHz (Sampling rate)
    .pcm
    PCM
    8Kbps ~ 320Kbps (Bit rate) / 16KHz ~ 48KHz (Sampling rate)
    (works
    only with
    video
    files)
    AC3
    32Kbps ~ 640Kbps (Bit rate) / 32KHz, 44.1KHz, 48KHz (Sampling rate)
    EAC3
    32Kbps ~ 6 Mbps (Bit rate) / 32KHz, 44.1KHz, 48KHz (Sampling rate)
    LPCM
    64Kbps ~ 1.5Mbps (Bit rate) / 8KHz ~ 48Khz (Sampling rate)
    IMA-ADPCM/
    MS-ADPCM
    384Kbps (Bit rate) / 8KHz ~ 48Khz (Sampling rate)
    G711 A/mu-law
    64~128Kbps (Bit rate) / 8KHz (Sampling rate)

    http://tda.panasonic-europe-service.com/docs/2z572204f2z3z3aa91z656ez706466z22za056db9...GIUKLXK9CY.pdf
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    It seems the experts on this forum find the answer to my questions as difficult as I - no one has carefully read the original post & replied only to that. The questions remain unanswered.

    Please read the original post. Before posting any reply to this thread, please read the original post again. If your reply is not answering original post, your reply is irrelevant.
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    MAKE SURE THE FAILED DVD's ARE NOT COPYGUARDED like saying each VOB is larger than 1GB etc. If it is I use ANYDVDHD but you say you have tried and it is not free as you request in your original post.

    When I wish to do what you want (convert the VOB files on a DVD to one MP4 file) I use CMD 'copy /b' method to join the VOB's and FFmpeg to convert to MP4 format. Any conversion program should work that handles VOB files however.

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    When you initially copy the DVD with whatever decrypting program you use(DVDFabDecrypter, DVDShrink etc etc).....SIMPLIFY the DVD. Remove all extra languages and subtitles.....and do a MOVIE ONLY copy of the DVD....no extra(s) crap. One movie, one language. Once that program gives you your VIDEO_TS folder....run that through VOB2MPEG , that will give you one, large .mpg file.
    Done.
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    It seems the experts on this forum find the answer to my questions as difficult as I - no one has carefully read the original post & replied only to that. The questions remain unanswered.

    Please read the original post. Before posting any reply to this thread, please read the original post again. If your reply is not answering original post, your reply is irrelevant.
    Handbrake is one of the best programs for dealing with DVD file structures, for non-experts. Open Handbrake (be sure to update it), drop entire DVD folder on Handbrake, pick out the video program you want from the drop down menu (usually the longest one), encode.

    When you say you tried it, you obviously did it wrong.
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    It seems the experts on this forum find the answer to my questions as difficult as I - no one has carefully read the original post & replied only to that. The questions remain unanswered.

    Please read the original post. Before posting any reply to this thread, please read the original post again. If your reply is not answering original post, your reply is irrelevant.
    I read your initial post. You wrote a lot of words but never explained where you think you are running into trouble with your problem DVDs.

    Are DVD Fab and DVD Decrypter able to correctly decrypt and copy DVD files and folders to your hard drive? If you use VLC to open the VIDEO_TS.IFO file in the VIDEO_TS folder on your hard drive, does everything including menu navigation work correctly? If the copied files on your hard drive play perfectly as explained above, are you just unable convert them into mpg files or mp4 files?

    As far creating files that any non-apple TV will play, mp4 (H.264 video and AAC audio) and mpg (MPEG-2 video and AC3 audio) are good bets, but there is no guarantee that you won't encounter any TVs that won't play them. I even have seen some older TVs and inexpensive new TVs with USB ports which cannot play video at all. They can only play mp3 music files or display jpeg photos.
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    KarMa- As I said in the original post, already did that. File either plays for couple of mins then stops or doesn't play at all 'can not read file.' If I can do all that I did in original post, obviously I did not do it incorrectly. Yet again, READ THE ORIGINAL POST. IF NOT REPLYING TO THAT DON"T REPLY. For goodness sake, how hard is it to do that? Obviously my problem is too difficult for you, no one so far has the skills to tackle it.
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    after putting through DVDfab, the VIDEO_TS files work on pc, not when I put that into tv or thru the programs I've tried. Yes, it's the converting to .mp4 etc that I can't get to work. Either 'can not open file' or plays couple mins then stops or plays 1min then tv goes back to tv i.e. goes right out of the usb stick display automatically.

    As the other guy said, always just copied main movie, no subtitles etc.
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    after putting through DVDfab, the VIDEO_TS files work on pc, not when I put that into tv or thru the programs I've tried. Yes, it's the converting to .mp4 etc that I can't get to work. Either 'can not open file' or plays couple mins then stops or plays 1min then tv goes back to tv i.e. goes right out of the usb stick display automatically.

    As the other guy said, always just copied main movie, no subtitles etc.
    If the copied DVD on your hard drive plays with no errors, try using VOB2MPG in IFO mode on the VIDEO_TS.IFO file in the decrypted VIDEO_TS folder on your hard drive as suggested earlier in this thread. If the mpg file(s) plays correctly and you prefer mp4 files, Handbrake can convert from mpg to mp4.
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    KarMa- As I said in the original post, already did that. File either plays for couple of mins then stops or doesn't play at all 'can not read file.' If I can do all that I did in original post, obviously I did not do it incorrectly. Yet again, READ THE ORIGINAL POST. IF NOT REPLYING TO THAT DON"T REPLY. For goodness sake, how hard is it to do that? Obviously my problem is too difficult for you, no one so far has the skills to tackle it.
    Hey jacka§§? - are you determined to be alone here?

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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    Thanks for your replies.

    I did not say tv only plays those formats, those are what I want it in (or .mp2). Why? As per above original purpose, want to be able to plug & play with any standard, basic non apple tv with usb slot.
    Sony doesn't care what Philips does/plays via USB, LG doesn't care what Panasonic does/plays via USB, etc etc etc.
    No such thing as "standard".
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  20. Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    It seems the experts on this forum find the answer to my questions as difficult as I - no one has carefully read the original post & replied only to that. The questions remain unanswered.

    Please read the original post. Before posting any reply to this thread, please read the original post again. If your reply is not answering original post, your reply is irrelevant.

    Please provide information, please do not list software as you can't expect that we will start to install listed software to test what works on TV (and why it works).

    Most of us is capable to use other software (some people on this forum are real experts capable to write encoder, no, not me) to create compliant elementary streams embedded in various containers.


    There is no such thing as standard in multimedia file players - some of them may not be capable to play files that are perfectly playable on other players.

    If you consider that some answers may be not appropriate you may and you should ask moderator for help.

    Based on all information's in thread i still have no enough data to solve your problem... please don't blame me for this... GIGO .

    btw - mp2 is mpeg 1 layer II elementary audio stream - no video, no container.

    Please run bellow script with one of the working files, provide result.

    Code:
    @ffprobe -i %1 -show_format -show_streams -pretty -print_format json -of json > %~n1.json
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    If all else fails, and VLC plays the DVD correctly, there is a way to convert from DVD to mpg with just VLC. The disadvantage is that it is a real time process, meaning a two-hour movie requires two hours to record.

    The recording process is explained here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2686/how-to-copy-a-dvd-with-vlc-1.0/

    You may need to add the record button to the VLC's user interface Advanced controls. Go to Tools->Customize and drag the Record button from Toolbar Elements to the Advanced Controls, in Line 2 of the Main Toolbar section, then click Close.
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    Thanks for your replies and thinking about and working on my problem.

    put dvdfab file through VOB2MPG. Result is same problem as all previous attempts:

    File either plays couple of mins then stops or doesn't play at all says 'can not read file.' Remove usb, turn tv off after attempt to play file, wait, then turn on tv again to try to play again, put usb back in. Usually try at least twice to play each new file attempt.

    When one of you says "Please run below script with one of the working files, provide result." Firstly, do you mean one of the dvdfab files or folders? (if so, which do you suggest?). Secondly, I do not know what you mean by that and therefore how to do that.
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    Used VLC record. File takes a while to try to play, then says "file not supported." It's .mpg, as I said earlier tv plays other .mpg files.
    Also tried rip by VLC, screen goes black. Does not play at all.
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    How did you get these .MPG files, considering DVDs don't use .MPG but .VOB.
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    Karma-as per "usually-quiet's" suggestion in his/her post dated 30th Apr 2016 05:14
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    put dvdfab file through VOB2MPG. Result is same problem as all previous attempts:
    If the disc is not fully complaint in the way it was authored then this will result in same issue ... even though it appears to play normally

    Rip to hd the whole disc, not just main movie when dealing with problematic titles ... use anydvd instead

    Use tencoder to encode title to avi using the following settings

    704 x 576
    Xvid, bitrate 1400
    Mp3, stereo, 44100khz, 128kbp's
    Output as AVI

    Make sure max file size never exceeds 2gb (2000mb's being fat32 max file size limit)

    If this fails to produce a working file then you'll need to be prepared for a bit of work to break the back on this one ... it's not complicated just a few steps and a few small tools to access what you need from the ripped dvd.

    'can not read file" is a generic message meaning

    1: File size to big
    2: Video resolution unsupported
    3: Video / audio codec unsupported
    4: Video / audio bitrate to high
    5: Audio higher than 2 channel stereo unsupported
    6: Video container unsupported

    Playback issues where files do match most specs tend to have encoded breaks where application encoding the file ran into problems and bailed yet completed the encoding ... file corruption
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    Used VLC record. File takes a while to try to play, then says "file not supported." It's .mpg, as I said earlier tv plays other .mpg files.
    Also tried rip by VLC, screen goes black. Does not play at all.
    What do you mean by "Also tried rip by VLC", since apparently that is something different than what I suggested.

    The procedure I outlined places an exact copy of the video and audio streams playing from the DVD you are watching with VLC in an mpg file. If its a copy-protected DVD, VLC decrypts the video and audio prior to recording it to mpg. This procedure is technically conversion, not ripping, because the end result is a media file, but it is as close to ripping as you can get using VLC. Technically, ripping is copying the DVD files and folders intact, with encryption removed. VLC doesn't do that.
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    I read all the posts, and I'm still confused
    SueT
    Are you converting real DVD discs
    Or
    Already existing files

    If these particular DVD discs won't convert, then you need software that is new more up to date for the new encryption systems

    If
    You have files that play everywhere, and some that won't play some places ?
    The obvious answer to that
    Is to use mediainfo to get the specs of the files that play
    Then use a converting program that will convert your non play files to those specs that do play
    Not just mp4 or mpg, but same frame rate, same frame resolution, same codec avc xvid h264 etc.. And same Bite Rate for the video

    If using dFab to rip and convert, you might still need to reconvert to specs that match those files that play

    Maybe I missed it, but I did not see one stated example of the specs of one of your files that do play

    Your best option might be too buy a media player that plays many formats put your USB stick with video files into that
    Connect media player to the TV you are visiting
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    Originally Posted by SuzeT View Post
    Karma-as per "usually-quiet's" suggestion in his/her post dated 30th Apr 2016 05:14
    Usually_quiet does not have a post with that date. But you should keep it as .VOB if you want any program to deal with it properly.

    In the future you can make life easier by saying the post #, listed in the top right of the post, or copy/paste the # hyperlink in the top right.
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    To answer post reply's:

    #29: it was from usually_quiet's post # 21. It's a shame can't reply directly underneath each post in this forum. When go to reply, posts are hard to read. Time comes up differently for me as I'm in Australia (in case any of you were wondering we don't have kangaroos hopping around the street's, only if they are in zoo's or nature parks).

    #26: anydvd is not free software so I can not use it.

    #27 I know you did not suggest rip by VLC. You suggested record. I did that, it didn't work. Noticed VLC had an option to 'rip', so I give it a try whilst I was at it. Didn't work either. Perhaps what VLC means by the 'rip' option button is different to what the technically accepted definition of what rip is.

    #28 Converting real discs. The original post is my question. After putting through dvdfab, putting it through a conversion is what might help. You're right, I never stated specs, didn't know I need to, don't know how. Downloaded mediainfo 0.7.8.5 64 bit, comes out as .7z folder that does not open i.e. can't install the software.

    #29 good idea

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