A month ago I split a video into single frames. I needed to work on all the frames individually and also increase the resolution to 1440x960 (before it was 720x480). Now I wanted to put the frames together to make into a video again. But every time I rendered the video they audio would be out of sync. I ripped the audio using VLC media player into .mp3 format. Now I've tried both Blender and FFMPEG and they both cannot get the FPS right. I have don't have a clue what I'm doing wrong since I'm a complete newbie to video editing!
So my question is how can I get the video to rendered at the right fps so the audio can sync?
I will give you all the info that may help figure this issue out.
ORIGINAL VIDEO INFO
Video Run Time: 00:16:49 (HRS/MINS/SECS)
Number of Frames: 28,385
FPS:
VLC Media Player: 28.135030
MediaInfo: 28.131
Here are pictures:
MediaInfo
VLC Media Player
Now I've tried putting 28.135030 FPS when I rendered with FFMPEG but I got a different FPS after I rendered the video.
Of course, the audio still did not sync.
Also note that 3,380 frames are not in 1440x960 since I did not bother doing anything to the Credits. I'm not sure if that may be conflicting with the fps. IIRC Blender automatically increase the resolution when change the render settings to output to 1440x960. I'm not sure FFMPEG did that though.
One last, thing I tried rendering the video into an MKV format and MP4 format and both had the same problems. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to rendered the video back to AVI format like the original video.
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That is an uncommon / and non standard frame rate
Did you say the original was "AVI" container ? Because that will rule out things like VFR (variable frame rate) immediately
In what way is it out of sync ? audio too early , audio too late, or progressively worsenening ?
With mediainfo, use view=>text, and copy/paste the text because that will show more information. Debug=>advanced mode will give even more information, including framecount . This type of information isn't always accurate, but it still can be helpful
I'm not sure I understand you comment about the credits, but did you account for the audio in the credits (ie. if you omitted the credits, did you omit the audio in the credits as well)? -
Whoops! I just checked and its NOT AVI, its actually MP4. My bad. And yes its very uncommon FPS.
Audio seems to always go to fast.
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Overall bit rate mode : Variable
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Encoded date : UTC 2015-12-11 10:05:14
Tagged date : UTC 2015-12-11 10:05:14
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Encoded date : UTC 2015-12-11 10:06:32
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Debug => Advance Mode
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Format : MPEG-4
Format : MPEG-4
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Commercial name : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Internet media type : video/mp4
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Codec ID : mp42 (isom/mp42)
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Codec : MPEG-4
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Okay when I split the video into single frames from an anime show. I was doing some editing to the frames except the credits since I did not touch them at all.
The show's frames are now 1440x960 resolution while the frames of the credits in the end of the show are still 720x480 since I did not touch them at all.
Should I also increase the resolution? I remember Blender automatically increase the resolution for me for those frames that were not 1440x960.
Audio is not included in this because I'm just working with the frames. I added the audio after I rendered the video because in the past I still was getting out of sync problems even if I added the audio during the image sequence to video in Blender.
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Original container is MP4 and is VFR. Nominal frame rate is 28.131, minimum rate is 14.985 and max is 119.88!! Now, the original frame rate is 29.97. Your best bet is working with that original constant rate file if you have or can get it.
Now, FFmpeg does not generate VFR MP4s, but does MKVs. And by exporting as images, you have stripped the original timestamp info.
There may be a way to get around this. Try this using ffmpeg,
Code:ffmpeg -i original.mp4 -i images%05d.png -filter_complex "[0]scale=1440x960,setsar=1[base];[1]scale=1440x960,setsar=1[img];[base][img]overlay=0:0[v]" -map "[v]" -map 0:a -vsync 0 -copyts -c:v libx264 -pix_fmt yuv420p -c:a copy output.mkv
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I'm getting an error message when I put that code in when I use FFMPEG.
Could find no file with path 'images%05d.png' and index in the range 0-4 images%05.png: No such file or directory
By the way, I do know that the images have to named a certain way like for example;
image-0.png
or
image-000.png
My images start at image-0.png
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You would need to specify the full path
eg
If it was c:\folder , you would use -i "c:\folder\image-%03d.png"
However, your images need to be consistently named, the "placeholder" digits have to use the same convention
If you have 3 digits like image-000.png, image-001.png, image-003.png... it would be "c:\folder\image-%03d.png"
If you had 5 digits like image-00000.png, it would be "c:\folder\image-%05d.png"
Another way you could possibly do it is extract the timecodes from the original (it IS VFR, that' s the cause of your problem) , and insert them into the "final" version. But if you've done some editing like edit out credits, the timecodes might need to be adjusted. Editing VFR is very, very tricky. Usually you would convert to CFR before any manipulations. If you kept the same frames (same number), then the timecodes would work -
I think I misread what you were doing
Only a section was manipulated in blender, but now you have 1440x960 dimensions for that section. If that's the case, I would upscale everything to that (all the other frames) , if that was your desired final dimension. Or if you wanted to scale that back down to match, that would work too. Basically you need everything to match in dimensions
So you would have the same number of frames as the original. If that ffmepg command doesn't work (try it first), you could extract the timecodes from the original with mp4fpsmod then re-insert them into the "final" version, also with mp4fpsmod. If you were re-encoding the whole thing, x264 can also take a timecodes file to create VFR with --tcfile-in. Basically it's the timecodes that control the VFR (the display time per frame), and there are several ways of extracting and inserting them.
I would also "copy" the audio, instead of re-encoding it like you were with VLC. Not only will it be faster, the quality will be higher too. Mulvya's command reflects that with -c:a copy -
Edit: looks like poisondeathray beat me to the timecodes idea with some alternative methods while I was writing this post.
I haven't read the thread too thoroughly but it seems you have the original video and it's MP4? I've no idea if you can extract the timecodes from MP4s but you can from MKV, so it might be easiest to remux the MP4 as MKV with MKVMergeGUI (don't specify a frame rate) then extract the video timecosed with MKVCleaver or gMKVExtractGUI. They should extract as a text file.
Open your encoded video with MKVMergeGUI. Make sure the video stream is selected, then add the timescodes. The place where they're added shouldn't be too hard to find. Add the audio. Remux as a new MKV. If the encoded video has exactly the same number of frames, the newly remuxed video should have the same variable frame rate as the source and the audio should sync. If it has less.... I can't remember to be honest. MKVMergeGUI will probably just remux the same way and stop when it runs out of video, or it might complain, but worse case scenario is you'll need to include the credits too so the frame count remains the same. I'm not really sure I understand what you're doing there to be honest. Does the output include the credits and are they the same resolution as everything else? If you want the credits they probably need to be re-encoded with the rest of the video.
Thinking about it, it might be an idea to open the encoded video with MKVMergeGUI and add the extracted timecodes as I described, then add the source MP4 rather than your converted audio. In the list of streams, de-select the original video stream (from the MP4) and leave the audio stream checked. Remux as a new MKV. If there's any delay being applied to the audio stream in the original file, which MediaInfo doesn't seem to report for MP4s, it should be applied by MKVMergeGUI so the audio video sync won't change. If you do need to re-encode the audio.. if you need MP3 rather than AAC etc... that might at least provide some insight if the audio sync does change after it's extracted/converted converted, but if you don't need to re-encode the audio, that's probably best way to go about it.
Your ffmpeg encode resulted in 4:4:4 YUV, which isn't something the average hardware player is likely to play. The usual format is 4:2:0. I'm not overly familiar with ffmpeg either, but specifying "-pix_fmt yuv420p" in the command line as mulvya suggested seems like a good idea. -
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For pages on github, there are typically several categories: commits, branch, releases, contributors, etc.. click on "releases"
https://github.com/nu774/mp4fpsmod
https://github.com/nu774/mp4fpsmod/releases -
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right, the original compiled versions are on the author's "cabinet" page. There's where I got it from
The only difference in the one attached above, is I added a help.txt file
https://sites.google.com/site/qaacpage/cabinet -
That code is still not working. I'm getting the message "No such file or directory"
Okay I think you guys may misunderstood me when I said this is the first time I'm using ffmpeg. I have little to no experience with it.
The original file is not in the C drive its on another hard drive that I have.
Both the original mp4 video file and images are in the same folder at this very moment.
They are in:
D:\Movie\C frames
So how should the code go?
Well if you read the OP then it might help you understand what I'm doing. Image sequence to video.
Okay so I used some of the programs you mentioned. I remux the original file to mkv and I was able to extract the time codes using mkvcleaver. Thanks for the tips though and at least trying to help me. Strongly appreciatedLast edited by e.korpse; 31st Mar 2016 at 18:28.
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Okay, I got the code to work now.
All I did was change all the images to image-%05.png format, so my images now started from image-00000.png, image-00001.png, image-00002.png....and so on. I renamed the original file to "original.mp4", so not much work there. Also I moved it to the same folder where the images/frames were at. From there I went to that folder, Press and hold shift and open command prompt from there. Now I copied the folder into Notepad because I noticed there was an error on there so I needed to edited. Instead of;
Code:Images%05d.png
Code:Image-%05d.png
I copied and paste the file on the command prompt and it worked.
Right now ffmpeg is rendering the file, I'll give an update when its done.
edit
FAILED!!
Video and audio were still out of sync.Last edited by e.korpse; 31st Mar 2016 at 21:29.
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Did you try any of the other timecode methods , such as mp4fpsmod or mkvtoolnix etc... ? There are other methods as well such as avisynth ffms2/ffindex but they all should give the same timecodes . If you have the same number of frames , it should work
The other possibility is a playback problem . It says APU Richland 4 core @4.3 in your profile , that should be enough for 1440x960 h.264 playback -
I have not tried mp4smod just yet because I'm not sure how to install it. Is it the same way as ffmpeg? I did use mkvtoolnix after I converted the original file to mkv format and I was able to extract the time code. But I don't know what to do with it now.
I can play bluray's just fine on my desktop. So I'm pretty sure it can play video files like that just fine.Last edited by e.korpse; 1st Apr 2016 at 14:00.
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If you already have the timecodes, easiest way is probably mkvtoolnix, because it's a GUI
Add the file , highlight the video track, add the timecode , push start muxing . Your done!
(There is a special place where you add the timecodes - it will say "timecode file" or something like that)
In fact you can add the original video, uncheckmark the original video stream, but keep the audio stream checkmarked, add the new video stream, with that still selected, add the timecodes. This way you use the original audio
If you want to use mp4fpsmod, you need to specify the paths and names , just like you did with ffmpeg
Code:mp4fpsmod -t "timecodes.txt" "input.mp4" -o "output.mp4"
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Actually you extracted the timecodes after converting to MKV ? Was the MKV in sync ? if not, you should extract them from the original
Code:mp4fpsmod -p "timecodes.txt" "input.mp4"
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I think you forgot what the OP says; Image sequence to video. I still don't have the video!
Should I now use ffmpeg to render the video from the image sequence? Also should I put the FPS to 29.97?
Yes, the audio did sync together when I converted the ORGINAL video to mkv format. -
Take your out of sync video that you already encoded with the image sequence, mux in timecodes, and it will become in sync if the number of frames is the same as the original. The FPS doesn't matter, because the timecodes control the display time per frame
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It worked!!!!!!!!!!!
mp4fpsmod was the answer! I ripped the timecodes and use mkvtoolnix GUI and added the time code and the video and audio are now in synced. Earlier when you said:
That was the key, the problem earlier is that I was converting the original file to mkv and extract the timecodes off of those which I shouldn't have because that might have changed the number of frames and/or timecodes. And every time I would mux the files they would de-sync after a minute and other times it would increase the FPS to 49!
The other day when you mentioned mp4fpsmod, I did not want to use it because I could not install it since I downloaded it from the github page when I google it. And when I downloaded that folder that had the .exe in it I open the command prompt from there and it worked!
Thanks poisondeathray for the help. -
FWIW... FFMPEG used to combine the first 2 images into some composite that would shorten your video and unsync it with any audio. I used to just start the images at images-001 and copy 001 to images-000 as a workaround. Haven't used it for this with the later levels but think it still does the same thing.
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@budman1 - I don't think that that bug exists anymore, or at least it's not present in ffmpeg builds over the last few years
The more common problem is when exporting image sequences with ffmpeg, they start with "one" instead of frame "zero" (e.g. img001.png instead of img000.png). Most software such as NLE's etc... "expect" to start at frame "zero". The "fix" for that is -start_number 0 .
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