Playback issues with 60fps videos, or maybe else, help

[flashandpan007]

I use the HTML5 player dropped frames counter

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LRXLU9l9rs

(Another video) I know, but the dropped frames counter in Firefox doesn't work. That's why I asked you if you can try and play the video with Chrome.

By the way, I just watched the same video in 720@60P and I got 22 dropped frames.. so it's not the resolution, it's the frames per second that cause those jumps and skips. Most likely, anyway.

[flashandpan007]

I don't use Chrome, but I installed it for the test you want:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LRXLU9l9rs -> I watched the 720p@60 fps ->I got 6 dropped frames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fC53l3jGAc -> I watched the 2160p@60 fps -> not one dropped frame

[mindblowing]

Thank you for testing with Chrome. I got 7 dropped frames right now @2160p, and I got 12 in 720@60p. Hmm, what are your thoughts on that? Sometimes I'll get 19 on the same video, sometime a lot less.

[flashandpan007]

personally, I don't know, I don't use a browser for viewing videos, I download them and watch them offline, because a dedicated player is way better than a player in browser.
Maybe a another one knows what is causing the dropped frames.

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Well, since you're too getting dropped frames, I'd cross that as a major issue. I'm going to set-up MPC-HC (again). I reinstalled Windows, because I had K Lite Codec Pack. Guess I'll live with it.

Thanks again for all the help you provided!

[jagabo]

Adobe's Flash Player, what you're most likely using in your browser, is a crappy player. It's not surprising that it doesn't play smoothly. Right click on a video and select Settings. See of turning Hardware Acceleration off or on helps.

[flashandpan007]

No, we don't use flash player, we use the HTML5 player.

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Yeah, exactly. Adobe Flash is terrible, at least for me.

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@flashandpan007 - So I setup MPC-HC + MadVR. You said that you don't use it, but you may know why I'm having issues with Fullscreen VS Windowed Mode.

I tweaked some settings, and I'm getting 2-3 dropped frames in Fullscreen mode, but sometimes none! (I don't know why). But when I switch to Windowed Mode I get dropped frames every second. This is the video with the big rabbit that you sent me!

Please, take a look, this is in windowed mode - http://postimg.org/image/dxr94a3cf/

Thanks again. The menu on the left doesn't appear when I take a screenshot in fullscreen, so I can show you only in windowed mode.

Happens only with 60P videos. Tested with 24/25/30p in Windowed mode - no frame drops.

[flashandpan007]

I think I don't get the problem excatly, but I'm not so familiar with madvr.
There are different fullscreen modes in EVR CP:
Fullscreen can be window mode or D3D Fullscreen mode. I don't know what you can get with madvr. Have you tried D3D-mode in Options -> Video?
What refresh rate do you use for 60.000 fps testfile? 59 Hz or 60 Hz?

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60hz. I took a photo with my phone from the fullscreen stats - http://postimg.org/image/3uqvwxbxr/full/

Maybe that can tell you something else. I notice that the queues are half empty in windowed, unlike fullscreen.

[flashandpan007]

Personally I don't know what is wrong, but I think when it says 1 frame drop every 14.56 hours it should be right. What is the problem you want to solve, that the are 2-3 framedrops sometimes, I assume at start of playback?

I cannot say, why there is framedrop every second.

I only used fullscreen windowed mode on win 10, you can start MPC-HC automatically in fullscreen mode: first checkbox in this site in options:
https://forum.videohelp.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36165&d=1457976101

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At start of playback yeah, but I get a small amount of frame drops even after that. For example, this video is 10 minutes. I will get like 4 frame drops, until the end. Sometimes I will get 0. Why does that happen? Why aren't they always 0? I'm just curious.

Just wondering what your opinion is. Do you ever get frame drops on this video (the big rabbit)?

Maybe when I buy a dedicated graphics card, things will be perfect. Who knows.. My CPU+iGPU are either malfunctioning, or too slow. Damn, I paid a lot of money for this i7 6700k. Thought I'd have zero problems with 4K playback.

[flashandpan007]

A big difference could make DXVA, maybe your 530 is to slow for UHD 60 fps, disable DXVA and let your fast CPU decode the video. Worth a try.

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[flashandpan007]

Ok, I must say that i have a 4930k which is laughing at 3840x2160p@60.000 Hz.

If you use internal LAV filters or also the external ones, you can set Hardware accleration to none to turn off DXVA usage. See here:
https://forum.videohelp.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36164&d=1457976092
not the marked Deinterlacer, it is on top of the page.

[El Heggunte]

As a last resort, give a try to a 64-bit build of MPlayer

(I mean the binary itself, without any fancy GUIs, which are small resource-hogs by definition ).

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Yeah, I just disabled DXVA and clicked on Software Decoding. I checked again and there's no difference. I get 3-4 dropped frames sometimes, if I watch the video again I will get 0. It's random. But in Windowed Mode I'm getting dropped and repeated frames every second.

Well, your CPU is better I guess, but mine is good enough for 4k@60hz So it's strange.

[flashandpan007]

I know that your CPU is very nice, that's the reason, why I called it fast I thought that already, that won't be a difference, maybe you try the player El Heggunte mentioned.
As a last try I would buy and test a dedicated grafics card, but don't expect miracles, the onboard Intel are veeeeeery nice since HD4600, which also I have on another computer, which has less dropped frames than my Nvidia...

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So, are you saying that there's something wrong with my hardware? That's what I get from your words. :/

[El Heggunte]

^ Equally-possible, something wrong in the operating system you're using (Windows 10 - ?)

(b0rked registry, buggy drivers, excessively-fragmented disk, interference from some application or process running in the background, yet another poorly-written update from µ$oft, etc Etc ETC).

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Windows 10 Pro 64bit. Same happens in 7. Well, I guess I bought a CPU that from time to time, under certain circumstances drops frames in videos that are 60p and does the same in YouTube, but always. Everything else is working perfectly. I'm using only software decoding now so. PC's new so apart from buggy iGPU drivers, I don't see where the problem might be but hey. At least I tried.

[flashandpan007]

No, I don't think that there is something wrong with your hardware. Maybe it is by design, no hardware failure, maybe every one of this processor lineup has his behavior...