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  1. Member ahhaa's Avatar
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    The last time I heard of a stone burner was in Dune, but this is a reboot of optical media in various sizes up to 50 Gigs (and 100 in the works) which claims to 'last 1,000 years' and be using a 'stone-like' substance. The per disc price goes up into the 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' range.

    It came to my attention because MCM (the supplier I use for Pi stuff) has an LG burner for M-disc for under $25. I found a helpful tech review of the disc longevity here: http://goughlui.com/2015/10/16/review-tested-verbatim-lifetime-archival-millenniatam-d...-4x-bd-r-25gb/

    It isn't the technology that I wonder about; I'm as tired as the next guy of moving all my stuff from one media to another that's supposedly 'future-proof' .

    I wonder where they'll find an optical drive in even a hundred years time; dig in a landfill?
    (Anybody remember those optical rings in the Pal version of Time Machine?)

    The history of Now may be very difficult to decipher...
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  2. Originally Posted by ahhaa View Post
    The last time I heard of a stone burner was in Dune, but this is a reboot of optical media in various sizes up to 50 Gigs (and 100 in the works) which claims to 'last 1,000 years' and be using a 'stone-like' substance. The per disc price goes up into the 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' range.

    It came to my attention because MCM (the supplier I use for Pi stuff) has an LG burner for M-disc for under $25. I found a helpful tech review of the disc longevity here: http://goughlui.com/2015/10/16/review-tested-verbatim-lifetime-archival-millenniatam-d...-4x-bd-r-25gb/

    It isn't the technology that I wonder about; I'm as tired as the next guy of moving all my stuff from one media to another that's supposedly 'future-proof' .

    I wonder where they'll find an optical drive in even a hundred years time; dig in a landfill?
    (Anybody remember those optical rings in the Pal version of Time Machine?)

    The history of Now may be very difficult to decipher...
    Ive not used one, but I did look into the product. It does look very good. I have a paper somewhere, where they tested the discs (Ill try to find it). I would think the information in the future would be quite easy to retain. As long as the method of how the data is written is known. Im sure it can be read again.
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  3. Found the report and uploaded it, if you would like to read it. Its worth it.


    http://wikisend.com/download/582122/China_Lake_Full_Report.pdf

    Accelerated Life Cycle Comparison of Millenniata Archival DVD

    Prepared By: Ivan Svrcek

    Life Cycle and Environmental Engineering Branch
    Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division
    1900N. Knox Road
    China Lake, CA 93555
    November 10, 2009
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  4. I have an LG burner and have burned a handful of M-Disc single layer DVDs. I haven't tried any of their BD-R and don't expect to unless the price drops precipitously. These are not data discs but DVD-Video that I mastered myself with full interactive menus. I have CD-R I burned in the 90s that are still readable. So I suspect these might last several decades. The only way to know for sure how these perform over time is to check back in a decade or more. With that said, I ALSO make copies onto TY discs, BD-R (not M-Disc) and so on. Bottomline, my movies are spread across so many forms of media that even if the M-Discs are snake oil, I wouldn't care. The only thing I don't trust for cold storage is hard drives.
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    Someone in Japan was doing some extreme stress testing with them...boiling them! They didn't seem to hold up as well under these conditions as the regular Panasonic BD-R.

    http://yss.la.coocan.jp/mdisc/mdisc_top.htm
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  6. Originally Posted by Kerry56 View Post
    Someone in Japan was doing some extreme stress testing with them...boiling them! They didn't seem to hold up as well under these conditions as the regular Panasonic BD-R.

    http://yss.la.coocan.jp/mdisc/mdisc_top.htm
    I just ordered two cake boxes of those Panasonic BD-Rs from Japan. Took about two months for them to arrive, but worth it imo.
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