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  1. Hi there, as promised here is a longer video colored by newlify:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV1dqH01zhU

    I will upload more samples as time goes by.
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    Well I guess you chose that scene as a direct comparison to this:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeAJVLtIf04


    Is it better ? Who am I to judge. But this article when the film was first bastarsized sums it all up for me.


    https://www.rogerebert.com/interviews/casablanca-gets-colorized-but-dont-play-it-again-ted
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    Originally Posted by AndyK View Post
    I will upload more samples as time goes by.

    Maybe your choice of words was accidental. But maybe this film is one of your ATF's. And if it is you really should not even attempt to mess with it.


    Your program might be a general improvement on what has gone before. But it still suffers from a basic flaw. Faces are still un-natural/cartoon like.


    Just my 2 cents (and my last on this subject you will be relieved to know)
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    Also you can see the shadows on the faces shifting slightly.
    I think,therefore i am a hamster.
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  5. Originally Posted by AndyK View Post
    Hi there, as promised here is a longer video colored by newlify:
    It looks nasty. Surely you don't think it's an improvement over the original? And why did you encode the black bars into the video you uploaded?


    Originally Posted by DB83 View Post
    But this article when the film was first bastarsized sums it all up for me.


    https://www.rogerebert.com/interviews/casablanca-gets-colorized-but-dont-play-it-again-ted
    Thank you for the link to the article. It lays out the case against colorization in stark terms. In black and white, you might say.

    I see freshly colorized old sequences and movies all over YouTube these days and it disgusts me. What disgusts me even more is the general praise these abominations receive. It's as bad as the conversion of "fullscreen" movies to "widescreen" using one method or another, thus wrecking the original aspect ratio. Everyone thinks they're a better director than the original one. Everyone thinks they're a better cinematographer than the original one.
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    I see freshly colorized old sequences and movies all over YouTube these days and it disgusts me.
    Me too

    It's as bad as the conversion of "fullscreen" movies to "widescreen" using one method or another.
    This is even worst
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  7. Originally Posted by magnu View Post
    I've been hearing about software called Deoldify which does auto-colourizing via the web. The only problem I see with something like this is that you can't really judge the quality of the actual resulting video, since you have to upload the video to a website.
    Is there any software, such as Mocha Pro, that can do it automatically without using the internet?
    This is Magnu again, who posted the above question 2 years ago. I thought I'd mention two pieces of software that colourize, but neither is perfect. One is the Colorizing tool in Vegas Pro 18. Another is a program called PixBim Video Colorize Ai.
    Vegas Pro seems to make the video too washed out of colour, with a lot of scenes being very orange or too psychedelic (If all that makes sense?)! PixBim does a far better job with the colours, but when experimenting with it I see too many ghosting effects from previous frames.

    I did see another video on YouTube which suggested another Ai method using software to save each frame as an image, then using a colourising feature in Photoshop to auto-colour the first frame of each scene, then using a process to automate all the subsequent frames with the same colours. This technique could possibly be utilized to do proper colourizing by just colouring the first frame manually?

    I guess the next more expensive option is to use Mocha Pro?
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  8. Originally Posted by AndyK View Post
    Hi there, as promised here is a longer video colored by newlify:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV1dqH01zhU

    I will upload more samples as time goes by.
    I know there are people on here who hate the idea of Ai Colourization. However, I am curious as to how long Newlify take to actually colour a B&W video (preferably in HD, and say about 30 minutes in length?).
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    Well if you check my 'test' of this service it took approx. 1 minute for every second of SD footage.


    You would have to do your own test of a HD source (if you feel it worth the effort)
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  10. I contacted the company (Newlify) to ask about costs, etc., and received the following reply:-

    Hi William,
    We can convert films in different lengths.
    The fee is 3$ per minute, but if you want to convert more than a few minutes we can issue you a discount.

    Also, due to high upload times we have decided to stop using the website to upload videos, so if you would decide to color your videos I will send you an alternative upload destination.

    Please tell me if I can help you in any other way.
    Thanks.
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