How do I get a 3-hour video onto a DVD5?

[RowRowYourBoat]

I just pulled a 3-hour MP4 off a video cassette. I'd like to be able to burn it onto a DVD5, if possible.

Were it shorter, I would use DVD Flick, DVD Rebuilder, DVD Shrink, and ImgBurn. But DVD Flick reports it as larger than the dreaded 98%, which I assume means that the resulting VOBs will be compressed all to heck.

Maybe it doesn't matter, but is there something I should be using, instead?

Thanks!

[Kerry56]

AVStoDVD, using HCenc and a two pass encode will generally give better results than Flick, but 3hrs is far more than I would like to put onto a DVD-5 as DVD-video. You can't use the MP4 burned as data I guess?

If you absolutely need DVD-video, your best option is to buy a few Verbatim DL discs and make a DVD-9 copy in AVStoDVD.

[Keyser]

Sure 3 hours is too long for a DVD5, but if you can live with the result, it is doable. DVD Flick can do it. You will get a bitrate somewhere around 3 kbps, which isn't much.

You can also use AVStoDVD and force the use of HCenc.

EDIT: I know, I know. Kerry56 was faster.

[RowRowYourBoat]

Thank you both very kindly. Would AVStoDVD then do the work of both DVD Flick and DVD Rebuilder?

I do have dual-layer DVD9, but I usually use them for data backups. I've never successfully burned a movie onto one. Just couldn't account for the layer break properly, I suppose.

[Kerry56]

AVStoDVD should be able to make the video the correct size. You just need to set the output to DVD-9, since default output is to DVD-5. Do the actual burn to a DL disc using ImgBurn. ImgBurn will warn you if it cannot find the correct spot for the layer break.

[DB83]

If you really want to put a 3-hour video on to a DVD-5 it is possible.

In AVStoDVD under Options/Preferences/Video, change DVD video Resolution from auto to half-D1. You can then work with much lower bitrates. (approx. max = 3000 kbps)

Obviously, quality is not going to be brilliant.

[jagabo]

file size = bitrate * running time

So you can put any running time you want on a DVD by using lower and lower bitrates. As was pointed out, to get 3 hour on a DVD requires you lower the bitrate to about 3000 kbps. But quality will suffer. You can trade off resolution for less blocking artifacts by using half D1 (352x480/576) or quarter D1 (352x240/288).

[johns0]

If it's a real slow moving video 3k kbps will be ok,if it's fast moving video then watch the mosquitos after encoding it to 3k.

[hech54]

I just pulled a 3-hour MP4 off a video cassette. I'd like to be able to burn it onto a DVD5, if possible

You captured to MP4? How? Why?

[RowRowYourBoat]

We picked up an Elgato video capture system to pull family videos from old cassettes. It saves everything in MP4 format.

I now understand that DVD Flick automatically adjusts bit rate to fit content to media, that the most space needed is 98% of everything available.

Again, I have DVD9 discs, but I don't know how to record to them successfully, how to properly deal with the layer break. Can DVD Shrink even create such an image properly? Is this why I would need to use AVStoDVD?

[Cauptain]

Do you try KDVD profile? Its use old Tmpeg software.

Good results in the past for my VHS recordings.

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[DB83]

We picked up an Elgato video capture system to pull family videos from old cassettes. It saves everything in MP4 format.

I now understand that DVD Flick automatically adjusts bit rate to fit content to media, that the most space needed is 98% of everything available.

Again, I have DVD9 discs, but I don't know how to record to them successfully, how to properly deal with the layer break. Can DVD Shrink even create such an image properly? Is this why I would need to use AVStoDVD?

DVD Shrink err um shrinks an already created dvd (or folders of) which exceeds a single-layer disk to fit. It only, generally, baulks that process if the shrinking is over 40-45%

Avstodvd is an authoring program like dvdflick but much more flexible. You feed your mp4 to it and it creates the folders for you to burn.

[Keyser]

Again, I have DVD9 discs, but I don't know how to record to them successfully, how to properly deal with the layer break.

If you use AVStoDVD and ImgBurn is installed, AVStoDVD will use ImgBurn to burn the VIDEO_TS folder. Even if you don't set AVStoDVD to do the burning, you can still do it yourself using ImgBurn. In either case, ImgBurn will handle the layer break.

Can DVD Shrink even create such an image properly? Is this why I would need to use AVStoDVD?

As already stated, DVD Shrink can't convert from other formats other than DVD-Video. But even if you were merging and shrinking two DVD9 to one DVD9, DVD Shrink would create an image with no layer break, thus not suitable to burn to a DVD+-R DL.

[pandy]

You may need to go for resolution like 352×576(480), video bitrate limited to approx 3Mbps, audio 2 channels 128kbps (AC3 should be fine with this).
Good preprocessing (denoising, image stabilization etc) can be highly useful.

[RowRowYourBoat]

As already stated, DVD Shrink can't convert from other formats other than DVD-Video. But even if you were merging and shrinking two DVD9 to one DVD9, DVD Shrink would create an image with no layer break, thus not suitable to burn to a DVD+-R DL.

I think that might be part of the problem. I've used DVD Shrink to create my ISO files, without setting it to shrink larger content. I thought ImgBurn would then handle the layer break, but perhaps it needs to be baked into the ISO?

I understand if my questions are annoying; this is what happens when you don't hang out with techs IRL.

[DB83]

Do clarify how you used DVD Shrink.

It has already been stated, and more than once, that you need compliant a compliant dvd folder and files to use that. Did you create these with DVD Flick ?

As for the layer break, the whole point with dvd shrink is that you end up with a sub 4.7 gb folder/files. Layer break does not come in to the argument then.

You do appear somewhat confused.

[manono]

I think that might be part of the problem.

No, the problem is that you're not paying attention.

I've used DVD Shrink to create my ISO files, without setting it to shrink larger content.

There! Why create an ISO when ImgBurn needs the VIDEO_TS folder with the IFOs, BUPs, and VOBs so it can create the layer break before then burning to a DVD9?

I thought ImgBurn would then handle the layer break, but perhaps it needs to be baked into the ISO?

Once more with feeling - don't create an ISO unless burning to a DVD5, and even then you don't really need one.