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    Okay, so to try and explain... I have a lot of Video Files and Audio Files I am trying to mux.

    I have a Video file and I am trying to mux with 1 single Audio File which is the default audio track.

    I am trying to use a batch file to mux these together with MKVMerge and this is working, but I have some differences in output.



    I want all output files to follow the same structure, but right now they are not doing this...

    I have 3 different types of existing Video file:


    1.
    I have an MKV containing only Video (and Global tags).
    When I mux using my batch file: it outputs with Video is ID0, Audio is ID1.

    2.
    I have another MKV containing Video, Subtitles (and Global tags).
    When I mux using my batch file, Video is returned as ID0, Subtitles are already ID1 so newly muxed Audio becomes ID2

    any variation on this (for example, if there are 2 subtitles already in the file) keeps pushing the audio onwards by +1 ID each time.

    3.
    I have yet another type of MKV containing Video, Audio and Subtitles (and Global tags, sometimes Track ID tags also)
    When I mux using my batch file:
    Video is ID0, existing Audio is already ID1, Subtitles are ID2. New Audio I am muxing then becomes ID3.



    The Audio track I am muxing - I ALWAYS want this to be ID1.

    So how do I force the new Audio track that I am muxing to always become ID1?

    Effectively if my new audio track now becomes ID1 this should also then (probably, I am guessing?) increment anything else that already existed at ID1 or beyond this on by +1.


    I think it is something to do with the --track-order parameter, but right now I just can't quite figure out how I include this since I have 3 different structures (as above).


    My script (below) may only need a minor change, but I just can't figure it out right now, so would appreciate some help...



    My batch file so far:

    Code:
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO (
    "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac
    )


    It may be worth noting above that when the new Audio file is provided it already identifies itself as ID0 (audio was ripped using MKVCleaver).





    Also, is it possible to output the result of each mux to one overall single log file
    (i.e. all results sent to a single log file, not one log file per encode)?

    How do I change the code also to allow for this?
    Last edited by m3; 5th Sep 2015 at 02:29.
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  2. Dirty trick for 2:
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    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv
    Does the script need to be handle all 3 variations or can you use an extra script for variation 3?
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    [QUOTE=sneaker;2408297]Dirty trick for 2:
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    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv
    Seems to work for #2

    I would prefer all in the one script, however can use separate scripts if there is no other way.



    I have also tried the script above on a type of #3 above (Video, Audio and Subtitles already exist), but it obviously not correct for that. Running that on #3 produces an extra copy of the audio track when it is not needed and the new audio track being added at ID2 instead of ID1.

    So for type 3. what existed before: ID0 Video, ID1 Audio, ID2 Subtitles

    then becomes: ID0 Video, ID1 Audio (existing), ID2 Audio (newly muxed), ID3 Audio (copy of ID1), ID4 Subtitles
    Last edited by m3; 5th Sep 2015 at 13:20.
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  4. Code:
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv
    Try again.
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    Originally Posted by sneaker View Post
    Code:
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv
    Try again.
    Have tested a few times and I *think* (fingers crossed) that is working - thanks!

    Will test some more to be certain...





    I have also been trying to create the logs using what was supplied above and another script found on this site here: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/368801-Help-with-Mkvmerge?p=2361639&viewfull=1#post2361639,
    but the logging is not working for me

    Any variation on the log is welcome - I am happy if it logs anything but really will only be looking through the log to see if was OK, there were warnings or mux failed.



    Here is what I currently have (but log is not working):

    Code:
    @echo on
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO (
    	"mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv
    )
    pause
    :end
    
    :print_log 
    echo. >>all_logs.log
    echo %~n1.LOG >>all_logs.log
    echo --------------------------------- >>all_logs.log
    type "%~1">>all_logs.log
    goto :eof
    In the logfile, the only output is:

    This creates a logfile, but the only entry right now is:

    .LOG
    ---------------------------------
    Last edited by m3; 5th Sep 2015 at 13:19.
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  6. m3:
    you replaced %%y for %%f, so you have to replace that "y" everywhere to "f", one "y" you missed
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    Last edited by m3; 5th Sep 2015 at 14:48.
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    Okay, almost there... just need help with a couple of tweaks...


    Code:
    @echo on
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO (
    	"mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv>"%%~dpnf.log"
    	call :print_log "%%~dpnf.log"
            del "%%~dpnf.log"
    )
    pause
    :end
    
    :print_log 
    echo. >>all_logs.log
    echo %~n1.LOG >>all_logs.log
    echo --------------------------------- >>all_logs.log
    type "%~1">>all_logs.log
    goto :eof


    The logfile prints successfully, however there is always an error at the end:

    "type "" 1>>all_logs.log
    The system cannot find the path specified"


    My understanding is that the line "type "%~1">>all_logs.log" is copying the contents of "%~1" to all_logs.log, but what exactly is "%~1" here? Obviously the syntax is incorrect anyway though.



    Also, I would like to add a couple of blank lines between each of the results that are outputted into the logfile (makes it easier to see where one file ends and the next begins when scrolling through)?
    Last edited by m3; 5th Sep 2015 at 16:46.
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  9. %%f becomes %~1 in calling function, first argument it is always %~1

    just looking at it try:
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    call :print_log "%%f"
    and you going to pass just drive:\path\filename.mkv , where function would just replace that mkv for log,
    also change:
    Code:
    :print_log 
    echo. >>all_logs.log
    echo %~n1.LOG >>all_logs.log
    echo --------------------------------- >>all_logs.log
    type "%~dpn1.log">>all_logs.log
    goto :eof

    if you want to add a empty line somewhere you can use:
    Code:
    echo.  >>all_logs.log
    EDIT: I edited out chunk of text, confusing on my part
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  10. Code:
    @echo on
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO (
    	"mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv>"%%~dpnf.log"
    	call :print_log "%%f"
            )
    pause
    :end
    
    :print_log 
    echo. >>all_logs.log
    echo %~n1.LOG >>all_logs.log
    echo --------------------------------- >>all_logs.log
    type "%~dpn1.log">>all_logs.log
    del "%~dpn1.log"
    goto :eof
    plus you print those empty lines whenever you want

    Just one more thing, that message: The system cannot find the path specified was causing batch script not recognizing that del "%%~dpnf.log" , that is what I think, because batch script sorts all lines withinin parentheses at the same time at the beginning, it does not simply processes line at a time, so it could not understands what that file "%%~dpnf.log" was, as batch script was concerned, "%%~dpnf.log" was not created yet. So better to delete that generated one time log within that function. That is another reason to not be afraid to use functions all the time, even merged one in another.
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    Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    Code:
    @echo on
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO (
    	"mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv>"%%~dpnf.log"
    	call :print_log "%%f"
            )
    pause
    :end
    
    :print_log 
    echo. >>all_logs.log
    echo %~n1.LOG >>all_logs.log
    echo --------------------------------- >>all_logs.log
    type "%~dpn1.log">>all_logs.log
    del "%~dpn1.log"
    goto :eof

    Removing the "call" as you did above (i.e. you changed it to
    Code:
    >"%%~dpnf.log:print_log "%%f"
    ) produces an empty log again

    So I put the
    Code:
    call :print_log
    back in as it was and I get a proper logfile again.



    However, the amended line towards the bottom type "%~dpn1.log">>all_logs.log is still throwing an error, this one this time:
    type ".log" 1>>all_logs.log
    The system cannot find the path specified.




    By the way, another side note... Ever since I started writing to the logfile, I cannot see the muxing % progress in the DOS window anymore as it is taking place.
    Any way to bring this back so that I can see the progress as it is taking place? All I get now is a flashing cursor while it is muxing.
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  12. you have to call :
    Code:
    call :print_log "%%f"
    try to add line so it would print even in batch window:
    Code:
    @echo off
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO (
    	"mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv>"%%~dpnf.log"
    	call :print_log "%%f"
            )
    pause
    :end
    
    :print_log 
    rem type individual log into cmd window
    echo.
    echo.
    type "%~dpn1.log"
    rem log it
    echo. >>all_logs.log
    echo %~n1.LOG >>all_logs.log
    echo --------------------------------- >>all_logs.log
    type "%~dpn1.log">>all_logs.log
    del "%~dpn1.log"
    goto :eof
    You cannot see muxing progress, at the same time, but doing the same with x264 encoder instead of mkvmerge muxing I can see progress in cmd window top bar, is it there too?
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  13. or you can try to do this, if that mkvmerge is going to show up a progress at that cmd prompt top bar:
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    @echo off
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO call :mux "%%f"
    pause
    :end
    
    :mux 
    "mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\Temp\%~n1-new.mkv" --no-audio --no-subtitles "%~n1.mkv" --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes "%~n1_track01.aac" --no-video "%~n1.mkv">"%~dpn1.log"
    rem type individual log into cmd window
    echo.
    echo.
    type "%~dpn1.log"
    rem log it
    echo. >>all_logs.log
    echo %~n1.LOG >>all_logs.log
    echo --------------------------------- >>all_logs.log
    type "%~dpn1.log">>all_logs.log
    del "%~dpn1.log"
    goto :eof
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    Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    or you can try to do this, if that mkvmerge is going to show up a progress at that cmd prompt top bar:
    Code:
    @echo off
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO call :mux "%%f"
    pause
    :end
    
    :mux 
    "mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\Temp\%~n1-new.mkv" --no-audio --no-subtitles "%~n1.mkv" --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes "%~n1_track01.aac" --no-video "%~n1.mkv">"%~dpn1.log"
    rem type individual log into cmd window
    echo.
    echo.
    type "%~dpn1.log"
    rem log it
    echo. >>all_logs.log
    echo %~n1.LOG >>all_logs.log
    echo --------------------------------- >>all_logs.log
    type "%~dpn1.log">>all_logs.log
    del "%~dpn1.log"
    goto :eof

    No luck.

    Results in the following error in the DOS window:

    Code:
    The system cannot find the file specified.
    The system cannot find the file specified.
    Could Not find C:\Temp\MKVMovie.log
    Press any key to continue...
    
    The system cannot find the file specified.
    The system cannot find the file specified.
    Could Not find C:\Temp\.log

    And in the logfile it says the following:
    Code:
    Error: The file '.mkv' could not be opened for reading: open file error.


    And no, % progress was never displayed in titlebar of DOS command window
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  15. well, it works for me,

    make sure that your BAT file is in the same directory as your mkv files, also I tried to fill in all the full paths in the script, just to be sure, most likely copy/paste failed or something with the cash, try to save the BAT file couple of times or rename it, otherwise have no idea ... also make sure that paths and filenames have no weird characters, just spaces

    Code:
    @echo off
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO call :mux "%%f"
    pause
    :end
    
    :mux 
    "mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\Temp\%~n1-new.mkv" --no-audio --no-subtitles "%~dpn1.mkv" --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes "%~dpn1_track01.aac" --no-video "%~dpn1.mkv">"%~dpn1.log"
    rem type individual log into cmd window
    echo.
    echo.
    type "%~dpn1.log"
    rem log it
    echo. >>"%~dp1\all_logs.log"
    echo %~n1.LOG >>"%~dp1\all_logs.log"
    echo --------------------------------- >>"%~dp1\all_logs.log"
    type "%~dpn1.log">>"%~dp1\all_logs.log"
    del "%~dpn1.log"
    goto :eof
    otherwise, you will see progress after one mkv is done, after you make it work, that is not bad ...
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    Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    well, it works for me,
    Thanks, the minor changes you have made in the version above seem to have fixed something, I will test a few times and report back on it.




    Originally Posted by sneaker View Post
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    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --no-video %%~nf.mkv
    Try again.
    Coming back to this again.

    It has come to my attention that I may be giving myself double the amount of work that is needed here...

    Right now, I am using 2 steps:
    i. Another script (not previously discussed) to remove the audio track that I do not want (in most cases this is the first track, usually track ID1). This muxes to the different filetypes I described before early in this thread.
    ii. I then take the file that was output from i. and use the script we have been discussing in this thread

    But I got to thinking, wouldn't it be more efficient just to replace the existing audio track in the original file with a single script, rather than using 2 different scripts resulting in 2 different output files (which is effectively an 'intermediate' file and a 'final' file right now)?



    Problem is I don't know how to combine my first script with what you had discussed.

    I had been using the mkvmerge command line -a !1 in my own first script to remove/delete Audio Track 1, but how do I combine this with the code you had given? The parameters --no-audio and -a !1 don't work together in a single command do they?



    How would I rewrite the mkvmerge script to do all of that in one go?

    In summary:

    1. Provide the original mkv as input. Delete any existing Audio Track 1 from the mkv.
    2. Insert the new Audio Track 1 (already held in a separate file) as the new ID1 and bump any already still existing IDs (e.g. any other Audio Tracks and Subtitles) +1 onwards for each respectively. Output the newly muxed mkv.
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  17. I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Yes, mkvmerge can use mkv files as input just fine - that's what we have been doing already. And yes, we can disable e.g. track ID 1 when muxing to do that. I mean, how did you do that until now? You must have already done this. All you have to know is that options like "--no-audio" and "-a !1" are per input file:
    mkvmerge -o output.mkv [options for first input file] [file name of first input file] [options for second input file] [file name of second input file] [options for third input file] [file name of third input file] ....

    If you look at the script I have given you you should spot the dirty trick: I added your input file twice. First I only added the video (by disabling audio and subtitles), then I added your audio file and after that I added the input file the second time (but only audio and subtitles, by disabling video). You can also only add the file a single time but you have to know the order and number of tracks to correctly use the "--track-order" parameter. The trick avoids this. Scripting something with "--track-order" is certainly possible, but in Windows' batch this is very annoying and complicated so I will not do it for you.

    --track-order works like this: every pair of numbers represents a track. Since mkvmerge starts counting at 0 this means "0:0" represents the first track of the first input file. "0:1" represents the second track of the first input file. "1:0" represents the first track of the second input file, etc. The order in which you put them into the argument dictates the order in the final file. I.e. "--track-order "0:1,0:0"" will result in "second track of first input file will become new first track, first track of first input file will become new second track"
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    If you look at the script I have given you you should spot the dirty trick: I added your input file twice.
    I didn't quite understand the trick until you explained it, so thanks for doing so.


    Originally Posted by sneaker View Post
    I'm not sure what you are trying to do...yes, we can disable e.g. track ID 1 when muxing to do that. I mean, how did you do that until now?
    Sorry maybe my previous explanation was a little confusing. I will try it again.


    Here is my current process:

    1. I have an original mkv file, let's call it MyVideo.mkv.

    It contains Video, Audio (sometimes 2 audio tracks) and Subtitles (sometimes 2 subtitle tracks).

    I want to remove the 1st audio track, and I do so using MKVMerge.

    Since I am removing the 1st audio track, a new file is then output: MyVideoWithAudioTrack1Removed.mkv


    I also have the replacement audio track that I want to add extracted elsewhere and in waiting, let's call it: NEWAudioTrack1.aac


    2.
    I take MyVideoWithAudioTrack1Removed.mkv and use MKVMerge/the script in this thread to merge NewAudioTrack1.aac into it.
    This creates another output file: MyVideoWithNEWAudioTrack1Added.mkv


    So when I finish I currently have 3 MKV files:
    MyVideo.mkv (which I began with)
    MyVideoWithAudioTrack1Removed.mkv and
    MyVideoWithNEWAudioTrack1Added.mkv


    What I am thinking is, can I possibly do this in a single step, without the need to create the middle file (MyVideoWithAudioTrack1Removed.mkv) just by better use of the mkvmerge parameters and if so, how?

    Thinking about what you explained, I am trying to determine if something like this would require "--track-order" to be used or if it can be done by removing all audio then re-adding the original file but not including audio track 1? If that makes sense.

    I looked some at --track-order myself and yes was confused by it also.
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  19. So you want to replace first original audio only for your new one and keep the rest?
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    Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    So you want to replace first original audio only for your new one and keep the rest?
    That is it in a nutshell Al
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  21. when loading all tracks mkvmerge cmd line looks like this:
    Code:
    "mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\\test-new.mkv"  "--default-track" "0:yes" "--forced-track" "0:no" "--display-dimensions" "0:1920x1080" "--default-track" "1:yes" "--forced-track" "1:no" "--default-track" "2:no" "--forced-track" "2:no" "-a" "1,2" "-d" "0" "--track-tags" "0,1,2" "-S" "--no-global-tags" "--no-chapters" "(" "C:\\test.mkv" ")" "--track-order" "0:0,0:1,0:2"
    after unchecking first audio, it changes into this:
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    "mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\\test-new.mkv"  "--default-track" "0:yes" "--forced-track" "0:no" "--display-dimensions" "0:1920x1080" "--default-track" "2:no" "--forced-track" "2:no" "-a" "2" "-d" "0" "--track-tags" "0,1,2" "-S" "--no-global-tags" "--no-chapters" "(" "test.mkv ")" "--track-order" "0:0,0:2"
    That is just one input (and all of its tracks), you'd need to input more options as sneaker layed out but modified those ID's

    So you might take a look into that one, it seems that just unchecking first audio caused "-a" "2" selection instead of "-a" "1,2" , other thing "-d" "0" seem to be selecting first video track. That is just first glance, more you can "dig up from mkvmerge command line help.
    -So your whole first input would be your original video only "-d" "0",
    -second input would be your new audio "-a" "0"
    -third input would your original video but selected rest of audio only "-a" "2" or "-a" "2,3" depending how much audio tracks is there, basicaly skipping "1" track (first audio)
    fourth option would be original video but selected subtitles only "-s" "3" or "-s" "3,4" depending how much sub tracks is there, same as previous input
    Not sure, is that aboiut right? Batch script would have to assign for every track its number (ID) to substitute those numbers with variables.
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    Originally Posted by sneaker View Post
    --track-order works like this: every pair of numbers represents a track...
    Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    Batch script would have to assign for every track its number (ID) to substitute those numbers with variables.

    Yes and no... as sneaker mentioned in a previous post - as files can be different, using the --track-order method could become a real pain.

    So of course I am trying to think of the alternative, there must be an easier way...



    Playing around with MKVMerge GUI and sneaker's original script, it seems that MKVMerge auto-allocates ID's based on the order that you deliver the items to it. This is a plus as it is doing some of the work.


    So I am trying to think of an alternative method that capitalises on this... and what comes to mind is, no matter about the differences between files - going back to the original mkv files (1 Video, 1 or 2 Audios, 0, 1 or 2 Subtitles) what is there that is consistent about these?

    There is at least 1 thing that is consistent - they all have at least 1 Video Track and 1 main Audio Track.


    So for consistency, maybe the way to approach the command is this:

    - With Original mkv file as input, strip all audio
    - mux new AAC track (which by default should then automatically become track 1 as it comes directly after Video track)
    - insert all other previously existing audio and subtitle tracks
    - delete what has now become the 2nd audio track (which would be the old/original audio which is now in ID2)



    So based on what I have explained and sneaker's original script, is this the answer... or close to it?

    Code:
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%%~nf-new.mkv --no-audio --no-subtitles %%~nf.mkv --language 0:eng --default-track 0:yes %%~nf_track01.aac --audio-tracks !1  --no-video %%~nf.mkv
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  23. try this , add this line into #15 post:
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    "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%~n1-new.mkv    -A -S "%~n1.mkv"    "%~n1_track01.aac"    -D -a !1 -S "%~n1.mkv"   -D -A  "%~n1.mkv">"%~dpn1.log"
    Code:
    video only .....  -A -S "%~n1.mkv"
    new audio only .... "%~n1_track01.aac"
    rest of the audio only .... -D -a !1 -S "%~n1.mkv
    subs only ....  -D -A  "%~n1.mkv"
    adding new audio and striking out first original audio

    or just this shorter line might work also:
    Code:
    "mkvmerge.exe" -o C:\Temp\%~n1-new.mkv    -A -S "%~n1.mkv"    "%~n1_track01.aac"    -D -a !1 "%~n1.mkv">"%~dpn1.log"
    Last edited by _Al_; 7th Sep 2015 at 00:13.
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  24. I just tried this and it actually works, there must be quotes around filenames, script throws out first audio and ads new one instead with ID1
    Code:
    @echo off
    break>all_logs.log
    FOR %%f IN (*.mkv) DO call :mux "%%f"
    pause
    :end
    
    :mux 
    "mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\Temp\%~n1-new.mkv"   -A -S "%~n1.mkv"  "%~n1_track01.aac"   -D -a !1 "%~n1.mkv">"%~dpn1.log"
    rem type individual log into cmd window
    echo.
    echo.
    type "%~dpn1.log"
    rem log it
    echo. >>"%~dp1all_logs.log"
    echo %~n1.LOG >>"%~dp1all_logs.log"
    echo --------------------------------- >>"%~dp1all_logs.log"
    type "%~dpn1.log">>"%~dp1all_logs.log"
    del "%~dpn1.log"
    goto :eof
    Last edited by _Al_; 7th Sep 2015 at 13:03.
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    Yes just gave it a shot... seems to be working thanks!

    ...continuing to test
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