Windows 10

[Atak_Snajpera]

It looks like even gamers are turning back from Spy10 OS.


I won't be surprised If I see -2 % in November period.

[Atak_Snajpera]

After reading a few of these threads, I decided to keep an watchful eye out for if/when it happens to me and report back here when it finally does happen. I certainly do not what that to happen to me. I am happy with windows 7 on this laptop.

Right now, I have not changed anything in my system. And I should not have to do that or research if I have to. I will keep working on my laptop computer, a Dell Inspiron windows 7 Home Premium laptop. I use this laptop for my software application development system. So I am on it most of the time, day and night, from surfing the web, to writing windows and mobile applications.

Around 8/2015 I started getting these pop-ups about every time I restart or shutdown and reboot the laptop.



And, today I started receiving this message, which came up from when my laptop was in sleep mode.



I don't know. I believe that eventually, M$ will force an install and your guess will be as good as mine or anyone else's that M$ made a mistake in one of their nightly updates? or some other excuse. And, that's when my laptop receives them, around 3am, and when I reboot from a shutdown or come up from a "sleep" mode, I will be greeted by a system update message or none at all -- but that I would know that I had a system update(s) installed because I will find a function or two or quirk or strangeness occur and realize I had an recent update w/out my knowledge.

I don't know. I think we should worry. But we shall see...

This script uninstalls those fishy KB updates and disables services responsible for telemetry in win7/8.

Save it as .cmd in notepad and run as Administrator.

@echo off

echo Disabling auto installation of updates
@cmd.exe /C reg.exe add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v AUOptions /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f
@cmd.exe /C reg.exe add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Auto Update" /v IncludeRecommendedUpdates /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

echo Disabling telemetry entries in Task Scheduler
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\AitAgent" /DISABLE
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" /DISABLE
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\ProgramDataUpdater" /DISABLE
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Autochk\Proxy" /DISABLE
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\BthSQM" /DISABLE
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\Consolidator" /DISABLE
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\KernelCeipTask" /DISABLE
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\UsbCeip" /DISABLE
@cmd.exe /C SCHTasks.exe /Change /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\DiskDiagnostic\Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector" /DISABLE

echo Uninstalling KB3075249 (telemetry for Win7/8.1)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3080149 (telemetry for Win7/8.1)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3021917 (telemetry for Win7)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3021917 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3022345 (telemetry)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3068708 (telemetry)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3044374 (Get Windows 10 for Win8.1)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3044374 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3035583 (Get Windows 10 for Win7sp1/8.1)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2990214 (Get Windows 10 for Win7 without sp1)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2990214 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2990214 (Get Windows 10 for Win7)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2990214 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2952664 (Get Windows 10 assistant)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2952664 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3075853 (update for "Windows Update" on Win8.1/Server 2012R2)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3075853 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3065987 (update for "Windows Update" on Win7/Server 2008R2)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3065987 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB3050265 (update for "Windows Update" on Win7)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:3050265 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB971033  (license validation)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:971033 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2902907 (description not available)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2902907 /quiet /norestart
echo Uninstalling KB2976987 (description not available)
@cmd.exe /C wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2976987 /quiet /norestart

[redwudz]

I only have W10 on my Asus non-touchscreen laptop at present, an upgrade from W8.1. But I run Start 10 so it still resembles the W7 desktop.
I also did a careful custom install to turn off most of the MS spy stuff of W10 and added ShutUp 10.

My next netbook will have a touchscreen so a bit more compatible. But I will still use ShutUp 10 or similar.
I think W10 is just as invasive as Google or Facebook and I won't run either. I use DuckDuckGo for a search engine. No tracking.

The community I live in is mostly seniors and W10 really confuses them, but a few are adapting.
Two have managed to trash the upgrade from W8.1 and I was able to fix that. The other two, I installed Startup 10.
All my other PCs are running W7 and will continue to for some time.

[glenpinn]

I have had win 10 home on my big dell 1735 laptop (2009 model) testing it for 2 months, and another dell 1555 laptop (2010 model) that i bought in September came to me from the previous owner already upgraded, and i was using the 1735 one for testing prior to deciding if i will move my editing pc from 8.1 to 10.

Last night i re-imaged my previous windows 7 back onto the big 1735 laptop SSD, and because the 1555 came to me with 10 already installed, i removed the 320gb hdd in that, and put a 120gb SSD into it, and i did a fresh install of win 7 onto that as well.

My issue so far is that because i am either away from the house, or when i am at home, i am on my main editing pc most of the time, and just dont have time to use the laptop and see how 10 is going, so i will keep 7 back on both for now, at least i have the permanent windows 10 activation set in place on both laptops.

I am going to do the Win 10 upgrade on my Dell 2330 All in One editing pc just to get the life time activation, then i will open it up and replace the 240gb SSD with a new 500gb one, and i will then do a fresh install of Windows 7 rather than use the 8.1 that came with the computer, and i dare say i will move permanently to win 10 later on, as i reckon 10 will be with us for some time, given microsoft are trying so hard to force it on everyone.

This upgrade is free to those who qualify, and of coarse we all know by now who does and does not qualify, because windows updates set this upgrade mechanism in place and you end up being told via the icon in your task bar that your system does qualify.

Personally, i think that everyone should at least run the upgrade even if it is just to get the life time activation set into the bios and on the microsoft activation server, and if they don't like it, the user can then use the windows 10 system recovery console to revert their machine back to the previous windows if you don't like 10, and you have 30 days to do this.

The other day i started upgrading the first of 30 Dell XT3 Tablet notebooks belonging to all my daughters friends that they were allowed to keep after 4 year at high school, all had win 7 pro on them, and all are being upgraded, because they all want 10, but because the college refused to unlock some features on these laptops, and also refused to unlock the recovery partition, i had to wipe my daughters Hdd completely first, and i did a fresh install of win 7 pro without activating it, and then took an image (to file) of that un-activated installation using my EaseUS Todo imaging software, and then i activated daughters XT3 to get the license in place, and then i ran the upgrade to 10 pro to get her activation, and then i put in a spare SSD and did a custom installation of 10 pro, and she loves it, plus the notebook is a lot faster with the SSD.

When all the other 30 XT3 notebooks start arriving, i will run the windows 7 un-activated image onto all of them first, then use the pro key under the battery to activate them so each one is licensed to qualify, then i will run the win 10 pro upgrade on each one to get the activation set in place, and this has to be done individually on each notebook, you cannot do it from an image file, so it will take me a while to do 30 notebooks.

If some of the notebook owners decide they don't like the win 10 pro, they can get someone to run the downgrade back to Win 7 pro via the recovery console (within 30 days of doing the upgrade) or they bring it back to me an i will run the un-activated win 7 pro image back over to their Hdd and activate it again using their win 7 key, and this option will have to be used if they don't downgrade within the 30 day time period allowed for the roll back.

One reason why i prefer to use the image file to roll back to is because i have heard stories that the win 10 recovery console sometimes can break and fail to complete the recovery back to the previous windows, and during the process the "windows.old" folder is either corrupted or removed from the system.

Not sure if this is right, so that is why i always take an Image of every fresh installation that i do, just in case.

Cheers

[usually_quiet]

I had a chat earlier this month with my pharmacist, who says she is not particularly proficient with computers. She installed the upgrade, didn't like what she saw, and went back to using Windows 7.

There are numerous stories reporting the success of the free Windows 10 upgrade program. ...but obviously not everyone keeps Windows 10 after trying it. I haven't found any statistics on that group.

I have had win 10 home on my big dell 1735 laptop (2009 model) testing it for 2 months, and another dell 1555 laptop (2010 model) that i bought in September came to me from the previous owner already upgraded, and i was using the 1735 one for testing prior to deciding if i will move my editing pc from 8.1 to 10.

Last night i re-imaged my previous windows 7 back onto the big 1735 laptop SSD, and because the 1555 came to me with 10 already installed, i removed the 320gb hdd in that, and put a 120gb SSD into it, and i did a fresh install of win 7 onto that as well.

My issue so far is that because i am either away from the house, or when i am at home, i am on my main editing pc most of the time, and just dont have time to use the laptop and see how 10 is going, so i will keep 7 back on both for now, at least i have the permanent windows 10 activation set in place on both laptops.

I am going to do the Win 10 upgrade on my Dell 2330 All in One editing pc just to get the life time activation, then i will open it up and replace the 240gb SSD with a new 500gb one, and i will then do a fresh install of Windows 7 rather than use the 8.1 that came with the computer, and i dare say i will move permanently to win 10 later on, as i reckon 10 will be with us for some time, given microsoft are trying so hard to force it on everyone.

This upgrade is free to those who qualify, and of coarse we all know by now who does and does not qualify, because windows updates set this upgrade mechanism in place and you end up being told via the icon in your task bar that your system does qualify.

Personally, i think that everyone should at least run the upgrade even if it is just to get the life time activation set into the bios and on the microsoft activation server, and if they don't like it, the user can then use the windows 10 system recovery console to revert their machine back to the previous windows if you don't like 10, and you have 30 days to do this.

The other day i started upgrading the first of 30 Dell XT3 Tablet notebooks belonging to all my daughters friends that they were allowed to keep after 4 year at high school, all had win 7 pro on them, and all are being upgraded, because they all want 10, but because the college refused to unlock some features on these laptops, and also refused to unlock the recovery partition, i had to wipe my daughters Hdd completely first, and i did a fresh install of win 7 pro without activating it, and then took an image (to file) of that un-activated installation using my EaseUS Todo imaging software, and then i activated daughters XT3 to get the license in place, and then i ran the upgrade to 10 pro to get her activation, and then i put in a spare SSD and did a custom installation of 10 pro, and she loves it, plus the notebook is a lot faster with the SSD.

When all the other 30 XT3 notebooks start arriving, i will run the windows 7 un-activated image onto all of them first, then use the pro key under the battery to activate them so each one is licensed to qualify, then i will run the win 10 pro upgrade on each one to get the activation set in place, and this has to be done individually on each notebook, you cannot do it from an image file, so it will take me a while to do 30 notebooks.

If some of the notebook owners decide they don't like the win 10 pro, they can get someone to run the downgrade back to Win 7 pro via the recovery console (within 30 days of doing the upgrade) or they bring it back to me an i will run the un-activated win 7 pro image back over to their Hdd and activate it again using their win 7 key, and this option will have to be used if they don't downgrade within the 30 day time period allowed for the roll back.

One reason why i prefer to use the image file to roll back to is because i have heard stories that the win 10 recovery console sometimes can break and fail to complete the recovery back to the previous windows, and during the process the "windows.old" folder is either corrupted or removed from the system.

Not sure if this is right, so that is why i always take an Image of every fresh installation that i do, just in case.

Cheers

Clearly you are replying to someone else. I'm sure my pharmacist can't benefit from your advice. I did write that she reverted to Windows 7 prior to talking with me. Nor does it have anything to do with the statistics on those who try free the Windows 10 upgrade and decide to revert to their previous OS.

[glenpinn]

Clearly you are replying to someone else. I'm sure my pharmacist can't benefit from your advice. I did write that she reverted to Windows 7 prior to talking with me. Nor does it have anything to do with the statistics on those who try free the Windows 10 upgrade and decide to revert to their previous OS.

Sorry i didn't mean to quote all of your previous post, just one point from it (i just removed the whole quote completely so no confusion)

The previous post was not intended as an offering of help or advice to anyone, it was just another broad comment about my own use and experience so far with the 10 upgrade, and how i rolled back to 7 on the laptops, and then explaining the win 10 roll out on those 30 XT3 notebooks.

Regardless of what people say, the fact is that users should at least give 10 a go, if just to get the lifetime activation in case they roll back and want it again later on, they will have activation set already.

Rolling back is easy via the recovery console in 10, as long as it is within 30 days, and just be sure to backup your files before doing it.

[usually_quiet]

The recovery console is half-baked, like some other aspects of Windows 10. I don't recommend that anyone try Windows 10 unless they can clone the system drive for their previous OS on another HDD or run Windows 10 as a VM.

If Windows 10 removes a feature (for example Windows Media Center or the built-in games) from the previous OS or an ordinary program that it deems incompatible it won't restore it, or your preferences/settings for that software. Driver issues can cripple Windows 10 to the point where people have a hard time using their imaging program to restore their hard drive to its original condition from backup media. See the user comments here: https://askleo.com/four-ways-to-go-back-to-windows-7-from-windows-10/

[glenpinn]

I was going to leave my upgrade to Windows 10 on my Dell 2330 AIO editing desktop pc until i had more time to test it, however because i had just rolled my Dell laptops back to 7, i had nothing else to test 10 on, so i decided to bite the bullet and just get it out of the way.

Yesterday morning i did the initial upgrade from 8.1 to set the permanent activation in place, then i initiated a clean custom install at boot, and i deleted all partitions on my Hdd, and Windows 10 is now freshly installed.

Did the Windows updates and ran O&O ShutUP 10 to disable most of the security options, installed some of my regular software, and so far, it is great.

Aside from all the hype, hysteria and paranoia about the "supposed" security issues that some people seem intent on flogging in forums (scaremongering) i don't understand why so many people would not want it, like it really isn't any different to 8.1, and heaven forbid it isn't even that far removed from Windows 7 when you think about it.

Windows is Windows, basically it works the same, just a few things have been changed, but nothing that dramatic, and even my mum has no problems with it, and she is 79, and i have now rolled out 25 of the Dell XT3 laptops to Windows 10 that belong to my daughters school friends, and they all appear to love it.

Don't know what all the fuss is about

[Cornucopia]

Been happily and smoothly running Win10 for 3 1/2 months now. One minor glitch: sound stopped working. But uninstallation & reinstallation of the driver fixed that.
Started with the provided Home version, but upgraded to Pro as I found a need for Bitlocker as well as connectivity to domains and more control over update scheduling.
Helluva lot better than 8.

Scott

[glenpinn]

I still have issues with my system when transferring data between partitions or from my internal Hdd over to my external 2tb usb3 portable drives, my system gets a bit laggy while the data is being transferred, not a windows 10 issue, i have always had it ever since getting this computer with 8.1 installed.

[usually_quiet]

Don't know what all the fuss is about

That is only because none of the genuine problems people encounter when they switch to Windows 10 apply to you. If they did you would be screaming bloody murder too. You don't need/want any of the features from Windows 7 or 8.1 that are not part of Windows 10, you don't have severely capped Internet service to worry about, you haven't been affected by a bad update, and you haven't had any essential devices crippled by a lack of device drivers.

[glenpinn]

Don't know what all the fuss is about

That is only because none of the genuine problems people encounter when they switch to Windows 10 apply to you. If they did you would be screaming bloody murder too. You don't need/want any of the features from Windows 7 or 8 that are not part of Windows 10, you don't have severely capped Internet service to worry about, you haven't been affected by a bad update, and you haven't had any essential devices crippled by a lack of device drivers.

Whatever you say.

I use my computer in exactly the same way and for the very same purposes, if not more, than most other computer users do, and i don't have any issues with any software, or any driver issues, everything so far (i repeat SO FAR) is running like clock work, not missed a single beat yet.

If and when i do have issues, i will work it out and resolve it, not go into a forum jumping up and down making a big ******* deal about it and telling others not to use it.

Of coarse there may be some teething problems, but that's life, deal with it, get over it, and move on.

edit: for 99.9% of the worlds computer users, Windows 10 will be absolutely fine, the others, well tough luck.

[usually_quiet]

If and when it does, i will work it out and resolve it, not go into a forum jumping up and down making a big ******* deal about it.

Of coarse there may be some teething problems, but that's life, deal with it, get over it, and move on.

edit: for 99.9% of the worlds computer users, Windows 10 will be absolutely fine, the others, well tough luck.

99% of computer users only use a PC at home for social media, email, web-browsing, and watching videos on YouTube. Given some of the temper tantrums I have seen you throw in this forum, I rather doubt that you will retain any measure of composure if/when your ox is gored.

The saying is "of course". It is comforting to know the Australian educational system is as bad at teaching spelling as the American one.

[glenpinn]

99% of computer users only use a PC at home for social media, email, web-browsing, and watching videos on YouTube. Given some of the temper tantrums I have seen you throw in this forum, I rather doubt that you will retain any measure of composure if/when your ox is gored.

The saying is "of course". It is comforting to know the Australian educational system is as bad at teaching spelling as the American one.

That is what i mean, it is just those in a minority who do other things that may have a few small problems here and there, but as i said, they need to sort it out themselves (there is always a fix for everything) and stop the BS by going into forums screaming their heads off over it.

As far as temper tantrums go, i have no ******* idea what you are going on about, and as for the Spell Check, well excuse me, it was a typo, something that i have a problem with quite a lot because i lost my pointer finger on my left hand 20 years ago, and i can only type with the middle finger on that hand (i am a hen pecker) and i also have severe arthritis from that injury as well, so you may find more typo errors than that one, but hey, not everyone is so perfect as you are.

Also, i wouldn't start comparing too many things between Australia and America either.

[usually_quiet]

99% of computer users only use a PC at home for social media, email, web-browsing, and watching videos on YouTube. Given some of the temper tantrums I have seen you throw in this forum, I rather doubt that you will retain any measure of composure if/when your ox is gored.

The saying is "of course". It is comforting to know the Australian educational system is as bad at teaching spelling as the American one.

That is what i mean, it is just those in a minority who do other things that may have a few small problems here and there, but as i said, they need to sort it out themselves (there is always a fix for everything) and stop the BS by going into forums screaming their heads off over it.

As far as temper tantrums go, i have no ******* idea what you are going on about, and as for the Spell Check, well excuse me, it was a typo, something that i have a problem with quite a lot because i lost my pointer finger on my left hand 20 years ago, and i can only type with the middle finger on that hand (i am a hen pecker) and i also have severe arthritis from that injury as well, so you may find more typo errors than that one.

Go figure Mr Perfect human being.

This typing error occurs every time you use that expression. Just trying to keep you from looking foolish.

People with perfectly even tempers don't use the word F*U*C*K every time they have a disagreement with someone.

[glenpinn]

This typing error occurs every time you use that expression. Just trying to keep you from looking foolish.
People with perfectly even tempers don't use the word F*U*C*K every time they have a disagreement with someone.

Every time someone makes any nice comment about Windows 10, you, and others, have to come back in here and Nit Pick, and you might find that a lot of the problems being encountered by some people are not a windows issue, it is actually self inflicted issues caused by not having a clue what they are actually doing, especially when it comes to drivers.

I install Windows 10 and i never have to install any drivers for any of my devices, i just let Windows do all that for me.

[usually_quiet]

Every time someone makes any nice comment about Windows 10, you, and others, have to come back in here and Nit Pick, and you might find that a lot of the problems being encountered by some people are not a windows issue, it is actually self inflicted issues caused by not having a clue what they are actually doing, especially when it comes to drivers.

I install Windows 10 and i never have to install any drivers for any of my devices, i just let Windows do all that for me.

Since when is there a forum rule that says discussions about any product must be limited to rah-rah cheerleading? If there are problems with this OS it is as fair to point them out as it is to lavish praise on it.

I am 100% certain that I would have to manually install drivers for one of my older capture devices. If I bought newly released hardware, I might well need to install its drivers manually too. I certainly did need to do that with Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. They have the ability to find drivers online too, but they don't always find them or find the right one. If you believe that is all changed with Windows 10, I would say that you are overly optimistic.

[Steve(MS)]

I have roughly followed this thread about W10 but have a question maybe someone can answer to my satisfaction.
Concerning the built-in spyware on W10, does the shutup program and/ or cmd file offered above and/ or maybe a few registry file mods, will this keep W10 from dialing back home?

I have an aversion to any phone home progs./ software. Not that I do anything illegal but I don't want M$ retaining any information about me nor do I want any updates installed unless I agree to it in advance.
If it does these things, I will never use it.

[usually_quiet]

I have an aversion to any phone home progs./ software. Not that I do anything illegal but I don't want M$ retaining any information about me nor do I want any updates installed unless I agree to it in advance.
If it does these things, I will never use it.

Windows 10 Pro has a fairly straight-forward means of deferring updates built in. http://www.computerworld.com/article/3005569/microsoft-windows/how-to-defer-upgrades-a...ws-10-pro.html

Windows 10 Home does not. There is a method available to disable all updates and a tool to hide troublesome updates. http://www.ubergizmo.com/how-to/disable-windows-10-updates/

[glenpinn]

I am 100% certain that I would have to manually install drivers for one of my older capture devices. if I bought newly released hardware, i might well need to install its drivers manually too. I certainly did need to do that with Windows 7 and Windows 8.i. They have the ability to find drivers online too, but they don't always find them or find the right one. if you believe that is all changed with Windows 10, I would say that you are overly optimistic.

Of coarse you might need to install drivers for old hardware, but overall most devices going back several years will be included in Windows 7, 8.1 and windows 10, just as newer hardware into the future may also require you to look for drivers outside of windows, but you can't really blame microsoft for not supporting older hardware or devices, so finding them elsewhere may be the only option you have.

Generally Windows will recognize most devices and install them automatically from within, and if the driver is not already included within the current windows system, of coarse it will search online and install it if it is found (very rare for it to fail) just as your device drivers will usually be updated during windows updates as the manufacturers of those devices create newer drivers for them.

With all the Machines that i have upgraded to windows 10 so far (over 50) the only Driver i have had to manually install has been the 64bit Quickset Driver on my 2009 Dell Studio 1555 laptop so i could get the Cap Lock icon to appear on the bottom corner of the screen, and in the taskbar, because that laptop has not got a small light next to that button to indicate cap lock is on, and i find it annoying to type without Cap Lock indicators.

All other drivers have installed, and many are updated again during windows updates, mostly on older laptops.

Concerning the built-in spyware on W10, does the shutup program and/ or cmd file offered above and/ or maybe a few registry file mods, will this keep W10 from dialing back home?

You will never stop Microsoft from dialing back home, but this is not new to windows, they have been doing it for years, whether people like to believe it or not.

All i can say is that if you ever do the upgrade, or a custom/clean installation of windows 10, you will get to a section during setup where you can customize your settings, and when you choose this option, you should get 3 screens with about 10 settings that you should Disable (they are all enabled by default) and then complete your installation.

As soon as you get to the Desktop, open ShutUP 10 and run it, and select the action that best suits you, but whether or not this tool will stop all dialing back to Microsoft i doubt it.

http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

edit: Green means the item is disabled.

[sophisticles]

The only way to be sure that any program stops Win 10 from transmitting your data is to use a packet sniffer, i suggest wireshark:

https://www.wireshark.org/

Or you could just "cut the cord", stop using Windows altogether and hopefully if enough people did this MS would get the message.

But of course that's not going to happen and a company that's worth tens of billions of dollars is just going to do what it wants anyway.

[usually_quiet]

I am 100% certain that I would have to manually install drivers for one of my older capture devices. if I bought newly released hardware, i might well need to install its drivers manually too. I certainly did need to do that with Windows 7 and Windows 8.i. They have the ability to find drivers online too, but they don't always find them or find the right one. if you believe that is all changed with Windows 10, I would say that you are overly optimistic.

Of coarse you might need to install drivers for old hardware, but overall most devices going back several years will be included in Windows 7, 8.1 and windows 10, just as newer hardware into the future may also require you to look for drivers outside of windows, but you can't really blame microsoft for not supporting older hardware or devices, so finding them elsewhere may be the only option you have.

Generally Windows will recognize most devices and install them automatically from within, and if the driver is not already included within the current windows system, of coarse it will search online and install it if it is found (very rare for it to fail) just as your device drivers will usually be updated during windows updates as the manufacturers of those devices create newer drivers for them.

What point are you trying to make by typing this? Anyone who has added a device (for example, a new mouse, a printer or a USB hard drive) to a computer running a recent version of Windows knows first hand how driver installation works. You are looking less and less credible as a Windows expert by wasting everybody's time with these unneeded explanations.

[glenpinn]

You are looking less and less credible as a Windows expert by wasting everybody's time with these unneeded explanations.

LOL if you don't like what i say, then just stay out of it and don't open your mouth any more and criticize me, pretty easy i reckon.

A lot of the issues that people are having with windows 10 are self inflicted, they just don't have a clue what they are doing, and that is the saddest thing of all.

There is nothing wrong with 10, and most people who are using it actually love it, including me, and it is stable, or as stable as you can expect it to be this early after release, can't say the same for windows 8.

To those considering the upgrade, just do it, and decide for yourself.

[Steve(MS)]

The only way to be sure that any program stops Win 10 from transmitting your data is to use a packet sniffer, i suggest wireshark:

https://www.wireshark.org/

Or you could just "cut the cord", stop using Windows altogether and hopefully if enough people did this MS would get the message.

But of course that's not going to happen and a company that's worth tens of billions of dollars is just going to do what it wants anyway.

I partially agree with your reply however concerning the packet sniffer, I have no illusions that even if I used the program that I would be able to decipher what it was telling me.

In regards to this, hopefully someone who already has W10 installed and has the skills needed to test the results, I am sure not only I would benefit but many countless others.

It would be extremely interesting if the shutup program was not able to kill all the phonehome outlets.

I find it hard to believe that anyone (knowingly) would want an OS that collects locally and sends personal data.
It would seem to me that since M$ allows this, it could also be leveraged by malwares.

glenpinn's reply that all other Windows OS's do the same thing, that is spy and collect personal data off their machines, I totally dismiss that.

[glenpinn]

glenpinn's reply that all other Windows OS's do the same thing, that is spy and collect personal data off their machines, I totally dismiss that.

You are completely entitled to think that, but i happen to believe otherwise, and i would not be the only person who claims this, but you have to go to other more credible forums or websites to find this kind of information out, you definately won't find it in this forum.

A lot of this spying/security stuff being sprouted by a small group of people is basically just a massive over reaction, and basically aimed at scaring people into not using windows 10, and for the most part just needs to be ignored, and if people are going to be put off by all this rediculous hype and paranoia, then best people go find an alternative, and good luck to them if they can.

Regardless of any security issues that may or may not be attached to it, all i am trying to do is inform people that windows 10 is a very nice operating system to use, and a lot more people would agree with me on that point than would disagree, and i think you would be very hard pressed to find anything that counters the latest thinking that 10 is already proving to be a massive hit, and not very many people are ever going to be put off by all this stupid negativity being sprouted by a small minority of narrow minded people (yes i said narrow minded people)

As much as i loved windows 7, its just time to move onto something new after 6 or 7 years, and having 10 on my own desktop pc for a few days now, all i can say is that i should have kissed 8.1 off a long time ago, 10 simply kills it straight out of the box, in so many ways.

Cheers

BTW, this will be my final comment on this topic in this forum, becoming very clear that having a computer sub forum in a video forum is just a pointless exercise and a complete waste of time.

[usually_quiet]

glenpinn's reply that all other Windows OS's do the same thing, that is spy and collect personal data off their machines, I totally dismiss that.

Windows 10 seems to be going much further its involuntary collection of personal data, but Windows 7 and 8 do phone home. I am sure you know that Windows 7 and 8 do transmit diagnostic data for solving problems and transmit information about how you use your computer if you are in the Customer Experience Improvement Program, although both are voluntary.

Microsoft is has indeed recently added more telemetry to Windows 7 and 8, although it supposedly does not involve collecting personal data:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2979054/windows-security/windows-7-8-10-now-all-colle...microsoft.html
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/microsoft-gathering-data-windows-7-8/
http://www.windows10update.com/2015/08/microsoft-now-collecting-data-from-windows-7-windows-8-pcs/

Bing does provide Microsoft with personal data regardless of the OS, just as Google Search does for Google.

However, I do agree that some of what glenpinn typed in this thread expresses a personal opinion rather than a fact, and deserves to be dismissed.

[usually_quiet]

BTW, this will be my final comment on this topic in this forum, becoming very clear that having a computer sub forum in a video forum is just a pointless exercise and a complete waste of time.

If this forum is so pointless, then just stay out of it entirely. Computer problems were solved here long before you arrived and will continue to be solved without you.

[Steve(MS)]

You are completely entitled to think that, but i happen to believe otherwise, and i would not be the only person who claims this, but you have to go to other more credible forums or websites to find this kind of information out, you definately won't find it in this forum.

Surely you are now our W10 c. jester.

If you think this forum has no general OS knowledgeable people, you are grossly mistaken.
We have members from all over the world with many well versed in all sorts of computer related subjects.
It is quite amusing your stance on this. Seems as if W10 is your fetish.
It is difficult to take you seriously...we realize that you are so serious.

[hydra3333]

To those considering the upgrade, just do it, and decide for yourself.

Extremely bad advice Research and judge for yourself first.
I upgraded with the knowledge that the ffing NSA in the US knows what I have because ffing Windows collects and sends stuff back to the US regardless of my privacy and wishes. Make no mistake, they would have no compunctions about the privacy wants of foreigners. The only saving grace is that they're an ally of my country (not that it matters much, look what they did to the German chancellor's mobile phone).

[davejavu]

I fail to see why so many people are singing W10's praises. When I tried it it didn't seem to be doing anything faster or better than W8.

As far as I was concerned it was just W8 in a new dress, and an ugly new dress as well. When I found out that dress was full of Microsoft wiretaps and cameras I couldn't get rid of it fast enough!