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    If you would record an event that may be useful for future generations, what would you do?
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    After seeing some of the stuff people record for 'future generations', I will just pass.

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    Yes, no, maybe, I don't know, Can you repeat the question?
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    Originally Posted by newpball View Post
    If you would record an event that may be useful for future generations, what would you do?
    Carve it in stone tablets, very durable.

    By the way, are you getting treatment for your OCPCD (Obsessive Compulsive Poll Creating Disorder)?
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  4. if from computer, 720p with yk918h box. If from tv, 1080i with intensity shuttle mjpeg codec then re-encoded to .h265 mkv, but honestly yk918h box would be good enough for me . If live event, borrow a friend's camcorder
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    Originally Posted by ezcapper View Post
    If live event, borrow a friend's camcorder
    Ok, so say it's a wedding ceremony what are you going to use SD, HD or UHD?

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    I'd call in the royal scribe.
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  7. A few years back I went to a talk by the great documentarian Richard Lea**** (imdb him if you don't know.) He was very keen on the 2000 year longevity of laser disks, explaining "about now we'd have to start worrying about the recordings of the crucifixion decaying."

    edit: Oh seriously, you're censoring the guy's name! (it's another word for rooster.)
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  8. Originally Posted by newpball View Post
    Originally Posted by ezcapper View Post
    If live event, borrow a friend's camcorder
    Ok, so say it's a wedding ceremony what are you going to use SD, HD or UHD?

    hd. when you watch wedding videos from the nineties, you don't expect them to be 4k, you expect the video to be equal to the times, right. Even if they are recording home videos in 8k 20 years from now, it wouldn't make my videos useless
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  9. Originally Posted by Groucho2004 View Post
    Originally Posted by newpball View Post
    If you would record an event that may be useful for future generations, what would you do?
    Carve it in stone tablets, very durable.
    yep hahaha


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I48hr8HhDv0#t=1m
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  10. I'm still emotionally scarred from spending too much time as a child in front of a projector screen looking at slides of my ancestor's holidays, or of family functions etc. As a result I'll be exacting my revenge by recording anything potentially useful for future generations as a Microsoft PowerPoint presentation.
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  11. Originally Posted by hello_hello View Post
    I'll be exacting my revenge by recording anything potentially useful for future generations as a Microsoft PowerPoint presentation.
    Sadly, they'll probably still be able to play it.
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  12. If you would record an event that may be useful for future generations, would you hope to record it using film's almost infinite ability to capture detail, and transfer it to digital at a minimum resolution of 1080p while encoding it at a very high bitrate..... or would you take a recording of an event that may be useful for future generations and run it through a noise filter, throw half the pixels away by reducing it to 720p, apply a little sharpening, encode it at less than half the previous bitrate, and cross your fingers newpball doesn't notify the resolution police?

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    Originally Posted by hello_hello View Post
    If you would record an event that may be useful for future generations, would you hope to record it using film's almost infinite ability to capture detail... \
    Yep. I have 16mm films from the 1930's that are still pristine. Apparently, celluloid acetate film is not appreciated by this pollster.
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    Originally Posted by filmboss80 View Post
    Originally Posted by hello_hello View Post
    If you would record an event that may be useful for future generations, would you hope to record it using film's almost infinite ability to capture detail... \
    Yep. I have 16mm films from the 1930's that are still pristine. Apparently, celluloid acetate film is not appreciated by this pollster.
    The question is what to use now: HD, UHD, or perhaps in your case, film.

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    The point is: EVERY current playback format will become obsolete in the future. You need to change your mindset to consider every current recording configuration as simply an acquisition format. Then, before that particular codec becomes a thing of the past (like MPEG-1 and soon to be MPEG-2), you transfer your acquisition material to whatever lossless archival format has the brightest long-term future. In digital video, NOTHING is future-proof. I only brought up movie film because that is what has traditionally survived best, at least over the years. However, less and less film is actually being manufactured, and digital transfer services are becoming costlier. Thus, there is nothing shot today that we can assume will be viewable for future generations unless we take care to periodically back up to newer formats.

    Shoot the best quality and resolution you can afford. That is all.
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    Originally Posted by filmboss80 View Post
    The point is: EVERY current playback format will become obsolete in the future. You need to change your mindset to consider every current recording configuration as simply an acquisition format. Then, before that particular codec becomes a thing of the past (like MPEG-1 and soon to be MPEG-2), you transfer your acquisition material to whatever lossless archival format has the brightest long-term future. In digital video, NOTHING is future-proof. I only brought up movie film because that is what has traditionally survived best, at least over the years. However, less and less film is actually being manufactured, and digital transfer services are becoming costlier. Thus, there is nothing shot today that we can assume will be viewable for future generations unless we take care to periodically back up to newer formats.
    Don't really disagree with that but that is not really the question in this poll.

    Let's say someone comes to you, a friend, a colleague, asking you about recording his wedding or baptism of his son or any other memorable event, he knows you are into video/film and wants your advice, so he asks you: SD, HD or UHD?

    I would advice to record UHD with a quality camera.
    What would you advice?

    Or, more in the spirit of the poll, how would you record your friends wedding or baptism etc?

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  18. Originally Posted by filmboss80 View Post
    Shoot the best quality and resolution you can afford. That is all.
    It's pretty much common sense isn't it? No polls required.

    Originally Posted by newpball View Post
    I would advice to record UHD with a quality camera.
    What would you advice?

    Or, more in the spirit of the poll, how would you record your friends wedding or baptism etc?
    Although why it's called common sense is a completely mystery to me, given how uncommon it appears to be.
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    newpball. The king of idiotic polls.
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