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  1. Hi all, i need to convert some Vob Files to A best Format for video, i've try handbrake and vidcoder for mkv and mp4 but when i play the video there are a lot of lines in the video when there are rapid scene.

    with vob2mpg i've don't find this problem but with free version i

    this is one of the vob files that i've try to convert

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    Generale
    Nome completo                           : J:\***
    Formato                                 : MPEG-PS
    Dimensione                              : 1.024MiB
    Durata                                  : 23min
    Modo bitrate generale                   : Variabile
    Bitrate totale                          : 6.075 Kbps
    
    Video
    ID                                      : 224 (0xE0)
    Formato                                 : MPEG Video
    Versione formato                        : Version 2
    Profilo formato                         : Main@Main
    Impostazioni formato, BVOP              : Si
    Impostazioni formato, Matrix            : Personalizzato
    Impostazioni formato, GOP               : M=3, N=15
    Format_Settings_PictureStructure        : Frame
    Durata                                  : 23min
    Modalità bitrate                        : Variabile
    Bitrate                                 : 5.186 Kbps
    Bitrate massimo                         : 7.500 Kbps
    Larghezza                               : 720 pixel
    Altezza                                 : 576 pixel
    Rapporto aspetto visualizzazione        : 16:9
    Frame rate                              : 25,000 fps
    Standard                                : PAL
    Spazio colore                           : YUV
    Croma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Profondità bit                          : 8 bit
    Tipo scansione                          : Interlacciato
    Ordine scansione                        : Top field first
    Modo compressione                       : Con perdita
    Bit/(pixel*frame)                       : 0.500
    Timecode del primo frame                : 10:15:19:08
    Timecode sorgente                       : Group of pictures header
    Dimensione della traccia                : 874MiB (85%)
    
    Audio #1
    ID                                      : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Formato                                 : AC-3
    Formato/Informazioni                    : Audio Coding 3
    Estensione modo                         : CM (complete main)
    Impostazioni formato, Endianness        : Big
    Modo muxing                             : DVD-Video
    Durata                                  : 23min
    Modalità bitrate                        : Costante
    Bitrate                                 : 384 Kbps
    Canali                                  : 6 canali
    Posizione canali                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Frequenza campionamento                 : 48,0 KHz
    Modo compressione                       : Con perdita
    Ritardo video                           : -568ms
    Dimensione della traccia                : 64,7MiB (6%)
    
    Audio #2
    ID                                      : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
    Formato                                 : AC-3
    Formato/Informazioni                    : Audio Coding 3
    Estensione modo                         : CM (complete main)
    Impostazioni formato, Endianness        : Big
    Modo muxing                             : DVD-Video
    Durata                                  : 23min
    Modalità bitrate                        : Costante
    Bitrate                                 : 192 Kbps
    Canali                                  : 2 canali
    Posizione canali                        : Front: L R
    Frequenza campionamento                 : 48,0 KHz
    Modo compressione                       : Con perdita
    Ritardo video                           : -568ms
    Dimensione della traccia                : 32,4MiB (3%)
    
    Audio #3
    ID                                      : 189 (0xBD)-130 (0x82)
    Formato                                 : AC-3
    Formato/Informazioni                    : Audio Coding 3
    Profilo formato                         : Dolby Digital
    Estensione modo                         : CM (complete main)
    Impostazioni formato, Endianness        : Big
    Modo muxing                             : DVD-Video
    Durata                                  : 23min
    Modalità bitrate                        : Costante
    Bitrate                                 : 192 Kbps
    Canali                                  : 2 canali
    Posizione canali                        : Front: L R
    Frequenza campionamento                 : 48,0 KHz
    Modo compressione                       : Con perdita
    Ritardo video                           : -568ms
    Dimensione della traccia                : 32,4MiB (3%)


    With MakeMkv are very big.
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  2. Originally Posted by kenpachi_b View Post
    Hi all, i need to convert some Vob Files to A best Format for video...
    The best format is the one it's in - no reencoding. Even if put into the MKV container with no reencoding (which you're not doing), if it's interlaced you'll get interlacing - the lines you see.

    And if it's really interlaced (as opposed to just being phase-shifted), then you should turn on a deinterlacer in Handbrake or VidCoder. Maybe a short 10-second sample will prove useful so we can see what you really have.
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    Try VidCoder again, but this time use the High Profile, set frame rate to Constant and set the value for Constant Quality to 18.

    Edit: And you can try the deinterlacer as well as manono suggests though I never seem to run into this issue leaving it at default.
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  4. Originally Posted by manono View Post
    Originally Posted by kenpachi_b View Post
    Hi all, i need to convert some Vob Files to A best Format for video...
    The best format is the one it's in - no reencoding. Even if put into the MKV container with no reencoding (which you're not doing), if it's interlaced you'll get interlacing - the lines you see.

    And if it's really interlaced (as opposed to just being phase-shifted), then you should turn on a deinterlacer in Handbrake or VidCoder. Maybe a short 10-second sample will prove useful so we can see what you really have.
    if i use MakeMkv i don't have problem about interlaced but the file is very big and after make the mkv use VidCoder or Handbrake back interlaced

    Originally Posted by Kerry56 View Post
    Try VidCoder again, but this time use the High Profile, set frame rate to Constant and set the value for Constant Quality to 18.

    Edit: And you can try the deinterlacer as well as manono suggests though I never seem to run into this issue leaving it at default.

    i've try with all your set in VidCoder and Still interlaced.


    i don't know maybe there are other software or other settings
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  5. I would use avidemux. Change the video output option from copy to HEVC. For the filter option that appears underneath, click it and choose Deinterlace. Choose the Decomb decimate option. For the output format, choose the mp4 muxer. Then hit the disk icon to encode the file.
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    Originally Posted by kenpachi_b View Post
    i need to convert some Vob Files to A best Format for video
    You mean VOB isn't video? Gosh. What is it? Corned beef hash? One thing you ought to know: mp4, mkv, and avi are not "formats". Sorry.

    I'm with manono, the "best" format is the VOB you already have unless there's something screwy about it. There's nothing inherently superior about h264, and no gain at all with DivX. All else being equal, re-encoding MPEG to h624 will not be an improvement. In fact, you could lose in some areas.

    Haven't we seen this thread before? Several times?
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  7. Originally Posted by LMotlow View Post
    Originally Posted by kenpachi_b View Post
    i need to convert some Vob Files to A best Format for video
    You mean VOB isn't video? Gosh. What is it? Corned beef hash? One thing you ought to know: mp4, mkv, and avi are not "formats". Sorry.

    I'm with manono, the "best" format is the VOB you already have unless there's something screwy about it. There's nothing inherently superior about h264, and no gain at all with DivX. All else being equal, re-encoding MPEG to h624 will not be an improvement. In fact, you could lose in some areas.

    Haven't we seen this thread before? Several times?
    The thing is that it looks like he wants to deinterlace the actual file instead of using cpu deinterlacing, which can be cpu intensive. To deinterlace, he has to reencode, so might as well use the codec which produces the least quality loss.
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  8. Thanks for All, i've try all and the best solution is use makemkv and find some space for all files, no loss quality and my smart tv read with no problem and no artifact.
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    Originally Posted by ezcapper View Post
    The thing is that it looks like he wants to deinterlace the actual file instead of using cpu deinterlacing, which can be cpu intensive. To deinterlace, he has to reencode, so might as well use the codec which produces the least quality loss.
    That would make more sense, if poor source quality is the problem to begin with. I was being facetious, but point is that there's no "best" codec without seeing the original video. Maybe it's not interlaced, or sloppy interlacing, more blended stuff, bad telecine, whatever. But the idea that there's something "wrong" with MPEG and that h264 is perfect is hogwash. Each has pros and cons.

    Originally Posted by kenpachi_b View Post
    Thanks for All, i've try all and the best solution is use makemkv and find some space for all files, no loss quality and my smart tv read with no problem and no artifact.
    Artifacts? You didn't mention that. Properly encoded video regardless of codec used shouldn't have bad artifacts on a decent playback system. Most media players, set top players, and TV's deinterlace on the fly (if viewers are busy clocking CPU time, do they ever get to actually watching a movie?). So I guess you mean that the videos themselves have problems. If they don't now, they will when you're finished re-encoding at bitrates that are too low to keep up the original impression of quality, such as it might be.
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    this artifact i see with vlc media player, WMP and on Smart Tv Samsung Player, Plex the same, Serviio the same.
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    Can't be certain from a still image, but that looks like blend artifacts, not interlace.
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  12. Originally Posted by manono View Post
    Maybe a short 10-second sample will prove useful so we can see what you really have.
    Originally Posted by kenpachi_b View Post
    this artifact i see with vlc media player, WMP and on Smart Tv Samsung Player, Plex the same, Serviio the same.
    That's not a 10 second sample, that's a picture. And that's not the interlacing you see when just playing the DVD, is it? The first two, VLC and WMP, you can fix by turning on a deinterlacer. I don't think the final three will deinterlace. I use Plex myself and have noticed it doesn't deinterlace when I feed it interlaced video.
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