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    Hey all..
    I've got a camcorder clip that was output do disc..The folder structure bears resemblance to to a Bluray disc. It has a .mts file extension for the stream.
    When played in the playstation, there's an AVCHD marker to indicate file type..

    However, I'd like to create a properly authored DVD..
    I've got the Adobe Master suite 4.0 at my disposal for encoding and reauthoring.
    The streams were demuxed with tsDemuxer, but I can't seem to transcode with AME.

    Any suggestions would be helpful.
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    Standard DVD? You can use free all-in-one dvd converters like avstodvd.

    Or do you want an avhcd on DVD? Then use tsmuxer and burn the folder with imgburn.
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  3. Why demux the streams at all? Did you try loading the files into Encore?
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    Originally Posted by smrpix View Post
    Why demux the streams at all? Did you try loading the files into Encore?
    By demuxing the streams, Encore will accept it more readily, and if needed, a re encode should go smoother without the audio (I always assumed).
    Upon demuxing, I realized that the actual stream was from an MP4 container..
    Encore hangs up upon importing the assets..

    I tried re-encoding the stream to an .m2v,within AME, but it hangs up mid encode.

    Thanks Baldrick, i'll try your suggestion when I get home tonight.

    Again, I'm still using a dated Adobe MS 4.0 collection.
    Perhaps the software Baldrick suggests has better built in decoder...

    Thanks.
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    You're mixing up a number of things.

    "DVD-Video" is an authored/structured format that uses MPEG2 video + AC3/MP2/PCM audio in a VOB (MPEG-PS like) container, and is SD resolution only.

    "AVCHD" is an authored/structured format that uses AVC video + AC3/PCM audio in a M2TS (MPEG-TS) container, and is HD resolution only.
    It is the "little brother" of Blu-ray (BDMV), which is also an authored/structured format (though BD has more codec & other options, and can be HD or SD or both).

    AVCHD does NOT come in an MP4 container.
    Upon demuxing, you would have NO container (hence, the definition of demuxing). That's how tsDemuxer works.
    Why do you get the idea that you have an MP4? Perhaps you are conflating it with AVC (container vs. codec)?

    Are you trying to make an authored HD disc or an authored SD disc. If the latter, you MUST convert to SD and re-encode to MPEG2. If the former, you might be able to get away with keeping your original AVCHD camera structure for the disc. Unless you need menus & other options, then AVCHD won't work anyway, so you would need to author a BDMV disc. Since AVCHD is primarily (though not totally) a subset of the BDMV spec, just about all of your AVCHD assets should already be compliant for BD use. IOW, no re-encoding. If you don't need more options but just want to add more assets, a re-authored AVCHD should work.

    Decide first which direction you need to take, then your options will be much clearer to you.
    (Maybe you have decided, but you're not making them clear to us here)

    Scott

    P.S., you also need to look at your Encore help file to see what asset types it accepts without re-encoding. Could be it likes elementary (demuxed) streams, could be only contained streams, but maybe not already AVCHD structured. In which case, you remux to the format it will allow (MP4, generic MPEG-TS, MPEG-PS...).
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    Originally Posted by pijetro View Post
    However, I'd like to create a properly authored DVD..
    So basically you would like to cripple the video from HD to SD?
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    We don't know that for sure yet, but MAYBE HE DOES. There are plenty of good reasons, all of which you seem to denounce, for people wanting to make an SD DVD. Get over it! - They aren't making them for YOU. Are you going to help the guy with his task? Or are you going to do more trolling?

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    We don't know that for sure yet, ....
    With all respect, we do!

    As you correctly mentioned AVCHD (what do you think the HD stands for) is HD while DVD is SD.

    Those are the facts!

    Not sure why you are not sure!

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    Very funny. Why don't you just let the OP speak for himself.

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    @pijetro, you've mentioned twice about your PC hanging up. Can you go into more detail? - total system freeze? app freeze? BSOD? Error message?
    As I mentioned before, unless your clip is corrupted somehow, it ought to be BD-compliant. Is there some other installation that might have interfered with Encore's & AME's ability to import?

    Some cams that shoot AVCHD also include lower-rez/proxy/thumbnail versions that are MP4s. Make sure you are not using that as your source for demuxing. It should come from [ROOT | PRIVATE | AVCHD | BDMV | STREAM | xxx.M2TS] files (or something very similar).

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    Let me begin fresh.
    I've got a disc that shows AVCHD in the explorer window.
    It's got a folder system of Backup,Clipinf,Playlist,Stream, with two extra files. Index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv.
    Under the stream subfolder, there is a file called 0000.m2ts. My explorer window shows it as 720x480.

    I have a request to create a DVD, that will play on settop DVD players..Yes, I know that a DVD has a different folder structure.
    Yes, I know I need to reencode the video stream.
    This is why I demuxed in the first place.

    Upon demuxing, I've got an .AC3 and an .264(renamed to .m2v for association reasons).
    I can load the renamed .m2v stream into AME for reencoding, but to answer Cornucopia, I've got an app freeze.
    Besides taking 5-10 minutes to load, the reencoding will hang unexpectedly.

    As a reminder, my desktop is dated, and I'm still on Adobe Master collection 4.0. I believe AVCHD just started to come out around that time..

    @newpall
    With all due respect, I suggest you look at my Join Date, and re-read my posts.

    Cornucopia, please advise, and thanks for giving me the quick 101 on AVCHD..
    Worst case scenario, I might just make backups, and insist people use Playsations for playback, instead of DVD players.
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    Completed!!!!!

    Thank you Baldrick.
    I've used AVStoDVD and it worked fantastic!

    With a few changes to the automatic output, i was able to reencode the video file, and demux the audio file.
    Encore accepted these assest with no issues, and my ISO was created..

    The quality is fantastic. Freeware and GUI has come a long way. Effortless install also.

    Thanks a million to everybody.
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    you did the right thing. good job.

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