dvd2svcd ver1.01 beta 11 Im impressed

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On 2001-07-30 16:47:33, tat2jr wrote:
Subtitles that can be switched on and off can only be done by using the optional I-Author program. Permanent Subtitles are doable without the hard to find I-Author.

I found my Cinemacraft 2.5 SP for free on a warez site (can't list it here).

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tat2jr, i would surely be surprised if that warex site url ended up in my mailbox - mudflap@cox-internet.com Wouldn't that just be catastrophic?

[Crzylgs15]

DDogg:

Where do I get the software bundle? Can you give the me the URL?

I just installed all the programs separately. Thanks

[Crzylgs15]

DDogg:

Found the URL. Will try again and let you know. Thanks

[fandos]

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On 2001-07-31 17:48:49, tat2jr wrote:
I LOVE this system! With the 4 pass encoding I truely can't tell the difference between the real DVD and the SVCD! You might say, "big deal", but remember that I'm veiwing these on a 64 inch HDTV (High Definition Digital TV). Even digital cable looks like crap on this TV, but not my SVCDs!

Alright, I said I'd time it for ya. Remember that I'm going overkill with 4 pass VBR (I swear it makes it look like DVD).....

Using a PIII 733, 128 ram it took 18 hours 45 mins to rip "To Die For" (16:9,5.1 audio,108 mins.) which breaks down to the following:
7 mins for rip
2.5 hours for audio (set on high quality)
3 hours for the VAF file creation (not sure what VAF is)
12.5 hours for 4 pass VBR Video Encoding
35 mins. to Mux, cut, and make CD image

Basically the same time to make a crappy VCD, and I use to have to do everything manually. With this system I set a few settings, push a button and it does EVERYTHING (but actually burn the CD!). This system rocks!


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I didn't take much time on my SVCD ,for 'Antitrust' DVD -> SVCD conversion :
- SmartRipper:10 minutes
-DVD2AVI:10 minutes
-TMPEGENCi: 4hrs40'( Mpeg2 SVCD NTSC CQ 100 224 Audio )
-BBMPEG & NERO: 1hr

Time of the movie:1hr48'.

The quality is 96% - 99% compare to DVD .
The time is .

[Truman]

fandos, there is no need to compare TMPG to CCE. It would be like comparing apples to pears or PIII to AMD. You are happy with your encoding method and that is OK. I did it like you do and believed it can not done better, until I tried MPEG2DEC + CCE. Thanks DVD2SVCD and DDogg now it is easier to use. Definitly dvd2svcd is the first real "all-in-one" tool and it is great.

[Vejita-sama]

Fandos - to encode a 108min movie in SVCD w/ TMPGenc took you 4hrs40min!?! What's your CPU? I assume you think that CQ_VBR is good enough and/or 2/multipass isn't really necessary?

I'll have to make some more test files and compare CQ_VBR (cq=100) vs. 2pass VBR at the same bitrates.

[tat2jr]

Fandos - I could use a MUCH, MUCH quicker (faster then real time) setting for my encoding on DVD2SVCD, but my HUGE 64 inch HDTV would show the difference. With High Definition there's no 2nd best. With my old 54 inch Analog TV even my VCDs looked "Great". This DVD2SVCD system isn't suppose to be fast, it's suppose to be the best (and easiest to use).... and it is, by far.

I was a diehard Apex fan untill I tried Pioneer, and I was a diehard TMPGenc fan untill I tried CCE.

[fandos]

Vejita-sama- My CPU is P4 1.7 GHz,384Mb PC800 RDRam,40G 7200R/m hard drive,16X DVD-rom, 16X10X40X CDRW,32MbGforce2
I used to watch my SVCD on 27"Sony & 36"Sony (1080i scan),
CQ 100 is good enough to me (96%-99% to the source DVD),and the time it takes is reasonable .

[DDogg]

There is no Holy Grail here. DVD2SVCD is just another tool in the arsenal of backing up DVDs, but one that I personally think hit upon a nerve and need by many. Backing up DVDs to SVCD was such an involved process that it just wasn't worth the effort anymore to a lot of folks (like me). Plus, one brain fart could cost you many hours of work. Judging by the *huge* amount of downloads, many others agreed. Others prefer different ways and that's good too as most contructive work comes from debate and competition.

One of the reasons I liked DVD2SVCD--so much that I was compelled to become a helper-- was I thought it a good teaching tool for the newbie and, at the same time, a good production tool for the very particular/experienced and it brought the state of the art to both. That's compelling.

As you use it, and mess about with the files left behind, the newbie can see the flow of state of the art backup methods and learn much from that, while the very experienced has all the parts available for custom tweaks without the need to have done a lot of the mind numbing and repetitive work. You can sort of grow along with this program.

The good news is it is only going to get better. The Author is making a lot of headway on several areas that will add even more features and flexibility. Stay tuned

Hope nobody minds this rambling missive. I hit the Irish Whiskey again.

[orbit7]

Well As I said in my original post, Well Done. It hit my nerves and appreciate its value greatly. Most importantly well done to all who are working together to give what I would consider the most accurate detailed help forum on this topic I have ever scene. I hope its consistant feedback will help it expand into the end all and be all of all svcd proggys.

[fandos]

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On 2001-08-01 13:31:42, tat2jr wrote:
Fandos - I could use a MUCH, MUCH quicker (faster then real time) setting for my encoding on DVD2SVCD, but my HUGE 64 inch HDTV would show the difference. With High Definition there's no 2nd best. With my old 54 inch Analog TV even my VCDs looked "Great". This DVD2SVCD system isn't suppose to be fast, it's suppose to be the best (and easiest to use).... and it is, by far.

I was a diehard Apex fan untill I tried Pioneer, and I was a diehard TMPGenc fan untill I tried CCE.

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and you are a diehard PIII'fan until you know P4

[sunmiztres]

This is one of the best ideas and by far the best work. It is so cool how with a few clicks you have a great quality svcd waiting to be bured. Thanks to everyone who was involved in this project...

i have alittle question... i used dvd2svcd last night for a movie with subtitles and when i checked the mpeg2 file i saw that the subtitles were around 20 seconds to early. Is there a way to fix this or any setting i can change so that it does not happen again? please let me know.

again thanks to all the authors of this great proggie

[tat2jr]

DDogg - Rock on buddy. I just watched one of my old VCDs tonight, and had a shudder at how bad it looked. I couldn't make a GOOD svcd to save my life with TMPGenc. Now I spend a couple minutes, push a couple buttons, and then later that day out pops a SVCD that looks like the DVD. Thanks to you and the author!

Fandos - I hear ya. I'm getting my P4 with DVD-R burner in October when the computer companies come out with their new lines. Till then my P3's are humming away .....and humming, and humming, and humming. The P4 is gonna shave hours off the process. Can't wait!

To the owners of VCDHelp.com - with all my praise for the DVD2SVCD proggie lately I have to really give you some thanks. Not only does everyone of my answers get answered here, but without THIS site I wouldn't have ever burned my first VCD. Let alone find the doom site. When I have a question or need some technical info I visit VCDhelp first. Thanks again for turning me onto my new hobby!

[DDogg]

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On 2001-08-02 21:17:41, sunmiztres wrote:
...i checked the mpeg2 file i saw that the subtitles were around 20 seconds to early. Is there a way to fix this or any setting i can change so that it does not happen again? please let me know.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR size=1 color=black></TD></TR></TABLE>

We have had no report of this before. Try another title and let us know, preferably on the other forum for consistency's sake if you experience this again.

[rrolsbe]

I have read conflicting information on whether DVD2SVCD, using the CinemaCraft 2.5 software, will work on an AMD Athlon. If the audio is not processed by CinemaCraft 2.5, it seems like an Athlon should work. I have read that the audio is processed internally with DVD2SVCD and externally by something called toolame, is this correct? Has anyone successfully used DVD2SVCD/CCE2.5 with an Athlon? Please reply with any DVD2SVCD configuration specifics/problems/workarounds for the Athlon using CinemaCraft 2.5.

Thanks

[sunmiztres]

Thanks, ddogg...i will give it another shot and see how it comes out.

[uumc]

Where can one get a legal copy of Cinema Craft 2.5?
Are we talking about the Lite version?
I can only find version 2.6. and 2.25???

[ckxd69]

uumc go here 4 Cinema Craft Encoder SP v.2.50, I dont know if this 1 works with dvd2svcd cause I got a pII but try it
http://descargas.granavenida.com/vcdspain/down/cinemacraftsp250.zip

& if u need I-Author v.1.0:
http://descargas.granavenida.com/vcdspain/down/author.exe

4 more stuff go 2, its all in spanish but hey: http://www.vcdsp.com/

IF the links get blocked out sorry about posting them then, & 4 the people who want these programs just post your e-mail & I will send the links 2 u myself

[kqt]

Hi, I'm a newbie at this... hoping to get help from the experts. I downloaded & installed dvd2svcd ver1.01 beta11 and the associated components. Tried to backup my 1st DVD, but the computer just hang after it loads up DVD2AVI. I'm running Win2000 with a Celeron 700. Has anyone encountered this problem or has suggestions?

[pacman]

can anyone give me the url for downloading the program?

[gambit32]

After reading the posts...I have the same concern as rrolsbe has. I'm running an AMD processor and I know that CCE is hell w/AMDs and audio. I found it out the hard way after a week of trying to encode the audio.
So will those of us w/AMDs be able to use DVD2SVCD. I'm all ready to go..have my DVD...have all the programs...just waiting to see if us AMD types can use this wonderful program.

[Vejita-sama]

I'm running an AMD Tbird 1.2Ghz on a ECS K7VZA (VIA KT133 chipset) MB. And DVD2SVCD beta 11 works fine on my system. The only 'problem' I have is that when I extract subtitles they come up a little late in the final MPEG (ie. after the person has already started talking). On the DVD everything is in sync. No problem with video/audio sync.

What's really nice is I can check "don't delete any files" and "do not make images" then use TSVC to add chapters to the disc. Encoding SVCD with CCE allows me to rwd/ff too.

Hopefully when the new version comes out you'll be able make the subtitles yellow (currently white) and the subtitle sync thing will be fixed (I'm playing with that now). It's a great program.

[orbit7]

Cinemacraft 2.50 works find with athlon / duron / thunderbirds. Ive test them all. Its issue is with sound and thats got to do with a filesaving issue that would take cinemacraft 2 minutes to fix with the source code. anyhow as dvd2svcd does not touch cinemacraft for audio it will work fine.

[Raider]

I was quite willing to have a go with this proggy, as I also have a P111 733, and noticed someone else had this set up. I started the proggy and everything was working fine, great I thought.
Then it got to the encoding....estimated time 80 hours!!!!, I attempted this twice, as I thought I must have set something up wrong?, but yet again, it came up as 80hrs for a 100 min film. Followed the instructions exactly, but no go I'm afraid. Has anyone any ideas what is going wrong.I had Cinema craft set to Multipass vbr at 4 passes. Would love to use this proggy, but 80 hrs seems a bit toooooooo much.
Any ideas ppl.
Thanx Raider.

[DDogg]

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On 2001-08-07 03:05:58, Raider wrote:
Would love to use this proggy, but 80 hrs seems a bit toooooooo much. Any ideas ppl.
Thanx Raider.
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This machine should give about .6 realtime in CCE 2.5 when working correctly. Suggestions:
If Via chipset install latest 4-in1 Via patch.
Turn off 48>44.1 downsample unless you need it (most don't).
If you have only 128 meg ram and a slower HD you will have so much disk swapping that this can be caused. I AM assuming you did install the software bundle and have the correct AviSynthMMX?

DD

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[Scumbag]

Hmm...

Can't help putting my 0.02c worth in here.

CCE 2.5 (or whatever version) is like 3,980 dollars US ! That is a little bit more than your average punter can afford here. Yes I know one can find a cracked version but to me, the spirit of this board is to use freely available tools to get results.

Personally I get bloody excellent results with TMPGEnc. Now I have found a cracked version of CCE, but at the moment I really can't be bothered to even see, coz the procedure to back up my DVDs with Smartripper, DVD2AVI and then TMPGEnc is just soooo simple and results in such a good xSVCD that I see no need to rip off US$4000 software.

regards,

jr

[dvd2svcd]

Thank you for all those nice words.

[taco]

This is a nice proggy but its slow compared to doing it by hand.

[neomaine]

Scratch the whole bundle, go to doom9.org and get DVDx v2.4...especially for newbie to intermediate. Its fast, its easy, its free.

[neomaine]

oops...I meant v1.2