CCE giving me program errors

[gambit32]

I just wanted to know if anyone has had problems w/CCE giving illegal operation errors and shutting down. My two copies of it both give me errors when I try to start encoding. It lets me set my files for encoding and the outputs but when I hit the start button I get the error message.

[gambit32]

I hate to do this...BUT..BUMP

[El_Mero_Zooter]

been using for a bit now and depending on what your doing and the way you've set it up, and what your encoding , there are error messages.

What are the problems you're getting?

zTr

[sunmiztres]

I sometimes get error messages when i try to load the .avs. the only way i get everything to work fine is to put the .avs in a different directory then the vob files and i have better luck dragging and dropping then i do using the add button. I usually have the vob files on a differnet harddrive and i then put my .avs in my documents and it will load. i don't know if this will help you but it doesn't hurt to give it a try.

[VidGuy]

sunmiztres - that's an interesting one - my AVS are always in the same file with the vobs - never thought of moving them.

I usually hande-edit an ecl file to get the avs to work. I'll have to give your methods a try.

[El_Mero_Zooter]

sunmiz,
i did encounter some errors with the avs, in the same folder, and i thought it was the encoder. so i went back to cce 2.25 which did a half decent job.
Gotta try moving it.
And yes the ecl file does sometime require tweaking, specially the file size , it read, 720 x 480.
VidGuy,
there was some praise on your work, that went up da pipe, missed the postz but will keep an eye out for it next time.

zooter

[gambit32]

Wait a minute....you mean I can't just load an avi in CCE? I have to split into audio/video files first? What program should I use to split into the audio/video files if that's the case? Thanks again, guys and girls.
Also the illegal operation error that I get is the one where the little grey warning box pops up.
My setup is...
700mhz Duron
256mb Ram
40gig hd (5400)
20gig hd (7200)
I think that's all that's relevant.

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[El_Mero_Zooter]

gam,
you can load an avi into it and if it starts encoding your off to da racez. If you get problems try some workaround and determine where the prob is at.
However, ive done some encodes video and audio with cce, and the audio seems to be fine (not high end) but i foresake audio at higher bit rates for size.
Sully , and many others use straight tmpgenc or toolame , w/tmpgenc, for audio encoding and apparently it is, a much better encoder.
If you are encountering problems loading the avs script, then you can try/check: the installation of cce and its version, loading in an avi file (say a divx), or the converted 'fake' avi that vfapi converter created, if you chose that route, or even the ecl file (modified, if needed)that cce creates (you can open it with notepad) and then your avs script.

If you've done the audio separately, you'd use cce to do your video only. To split video and audio, i use tmpgenc, under tools--simple demultiplex.

Sully put together a great post on his method, which is being turned into an html guide.
Doom 9 has also a pretty good guide on frameserving to an avs file.

To multiplex (and cut into two parts at whatever size you want) try using bbMPG 1.18 to muxed (multiplex) the encoded video, mpv, and the audio, mp2 back to an mpg ready to burn..

let us know what happenz
Zooter

[gambit32]

Here's something that may or may not have to do w/the problem. It asks me if I want to "save changes to no name?" and I hit yes and it makes an ecl file. After that goes thru then I hit encode and it gives me the error. Strange business this CCE stuff.....
I'm going to try demuxing w/tmpegenc to see what happens.

[iant]

Here's another possibility. ( And a rather nasty one at that. )

CCE will only work with a chip that has the SSE ( at least I think that's the one ) instruction set available. That includes recent Celerons, P3s or better and Durons or better.

If your on an older chip like me, ( AMD k6 II 500 ) it's never going to work.

Good Luck.
Ian

[sunmiztres]

Yes moving the avs file has helped me alot. i usually get good results when i put it in a different hardrive but tonight a avs wouldn't load so i kept moving it and finally it loaded when i put it on the same harddrive but a different folder. I have no idea why this works for me or why it should even matter but i am not going to argue since i am getting the job done.

[gambit32]

Okay I may have found part of the problem. I think my version was just a bad version (2.5) that I downloaded, it may have been corrupted or something. So I got the trial version and my avi loaded fine but I did get an error that said something like "O bytes recorded, expected blah blah blah bytes!" I think that was because I used such a small clip to test it. But at least this time I got it to load and start encoding my short avi clip. I'm going to try to encode the Skulls tomorrow, I'm currently encoding another movie with trusty tmpgenc.
I do have one other question. I keep seeing everyone mention "avs" files. How do I make one of those? I'm assuming it's the video file created after demuxing, but with what program?
I don't think it's my chip that's the problem because I'm running a 700mhz Duron.
Thanks again all for helping me trouble shoot this!

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[sunmiztres]

An avs file is a file you create using notepad or fitcd. When you type

AviSource("c:\moviefile.d2v_vfapi.avi&quot
Bicubicresize(480,480)

you would save this as a .avs file and this is the file you would use in cce.

have you seen this guide by sully?

http://www.vcdhelp.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=51048&forum=11

give it a try and it will show you enough to get you started

[El_Mero_Zooter]

just to add a bit on sunmiz ,
i did add one more line to the avs, cuz the avs was giving me an incorrect aspect ratio

for ntsc
AviSource("c:\moviefile.d2v_vfapi.avi")
BicubicResize(480,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)

for pal:
AviSource("c:\moviefile.d2v_vfapi.avi")
BicubicResize(480,432)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)


zooter

[gambit32]

Okay, I've read Sully's guide for CCE, but I only want to test it out and I don't have a DVD rip on hand. So I tried to load a DivX movie and it loads fine. From there I calculated the bitrate for the length of the movie and 2 80min CDRs. The bitrate was 1641. CCE then asks if I want to save the "no name" file and I say yes and save it. Then I hit encode and I get this illegal operation error:

CCTSP executed an invalid instruction in
module CCTSP.EXE at 0167:0047bf6f.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=0047bf6f EFLGS=00210202
EBX=0c7afd18 SS=016f ESP=0c7afce0 EBP=0c7afd60
ECX=00000000 DS=016f ESI=00000100 FS=8647
EDX=00000010 ES=016f EDI=05aca660 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
0f 57 c0 33 c0 0f 29 80 40 f3 aa 05 83 c0 10 3d
Stack dump:
0c7afdb0 00462a48 015f1364 0c7afdb8 00462a48 00000002 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 65340000 bff84f6c 79ec3d08 ffffffff 0c7afd68 0047a0ca

I'm going nuts.....what am I doing wrong?

[khai]

Wow, weird prob. I dunno much about that since I do Virtual Dub -> VDR Signpost -> CCE.

You already tried encoding different avi's? Maybe it's a messed avi file?

BTW, here's a CCE guide that I really liked (from doom9)
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/cce.htm

[gambit32]

I did try different DivX movies. In fact, I tried 3 different DivX movies. Again, anyone know what this means or how to fix it?:

CCTSP executed an invalid instruction in
module CCTSP.EXE at 0167:0047bf6f.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=0047bf6f EFLGS=00210202
EBX=0c7afd18 SS=016f ESP=0c7afce0 EBP=0c7afd60
ECX=00000000 DS=016f ESI=00000100 FS=8647
EDX=00000010 ES=016f EDI=05aca660 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
0f 57 c0 33 c0 0f 29 80 40 f3 aa 05 83 c0 10 3d
Stack dump:
0c7afdb0 00462a48 015f1364 0c7afdb8 00462a48 00000002 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 65340000 bff84f6c 79ec3d08 ffffffff 0c7afd68 0047a0ca

For those of you just joining this discussion please read up...maybe you can shed some light on this problem.

[disturbed1]

gambit,
Since you have an AMD CPU you know CCE will throw those same errors when you try to encode audio.
I read your post(s), but you didn't say if you were trying to encode the audio. If you are, don't.

Just uncheck audio.

For avs files, down load fitcd from the tools section, it generates avs scripts for you, then read the guide at doom9
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/d2a-mpeg2dec.htm

[gambit32]

Holy shit! ________(<-----Insert other expletives here)
It's actually working! Props to disturbed1 for the tip. I just unchecked the audio and it started to encode the video w/no error message screaming at me. It's always so obvious when someone slaps you in the face w/the answer. In hindsight I recall reading some posts about CCE being a terrible audio encoder. Whew! Now we can move on to my other questions:
1) Do I still need an avs file or is that only needed when ripping DVDs? In other words can I continue to encode just the video from my DivX files by simply loading them up w/out an avs file?
2) Any suggestions for what to do w/the audio? It seems that simply demuxing the audio from the DivX and then remuxing with the mpv file that CCE spits out would cause out of synch issues. If demuxing is the answer then what would you folks suggest to use for the demuxing and how?
3) Is it normal to encode the video only from a 1hr 55min DivX in under an hour w/CCE?

Once again props to disturbed1 and many thanks to all that have chipped in so far.

[disturbed1]

It works

The avs file is just a pointer file, another .d2v file if you will.

It is great for DVD rips 'cuz it speeds up the operation, no need to frame serve w/V-DUB. Blah Blah.

Load that divx into TMPG and encode audio only. If your making an SVCD, mux your .mpv .mp2 with bbMpeg1.24 18. Make sure it's beta 18. The others showed A/V sync problems after ff/rw.

How are you resizing your avi file? You can create a TMPG project file (.tpr) and use VFAPI converter to make it into an avi file with all of the atributes allocated in TMPG such as frame rate, resolution, and applied filters.


CCE's speed depends on the resolution. When Purity was still around, my speed on those were 2.4x real time. That's about 25 minutes to encode an hour. With DVD rips, going from 720x480 - 352x480 my speed avg's .8-.9 (almost real time).


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[homerpez]

I know I'm being a pain, but I'm also having WEIRD problems with CCE using the DVD2AVI, FAKE AVI, AVS, CCE method.

Can someone help me with this one? I've never had anything like this happen before... only in CCE...

www.vcdhelp.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=52945&forum=3&1

Thanks!

P.S. - It is a good idea for me to remux my TMPGEnc-encoded VCDs again with bbMPEG to avoid synch problems? What settings do I put for an MPEG-1 VBR?

[El_Mero_Zooter]

hommey,
whatz da prob with the dvd2avi, vfapi cce pattern?

as far as the mpeg 1 stuff, i think i did a couple of lvcd'z
and used mpg 1 vbr, let me refresh my memory.

Ztr

[gambit32]

I have to say after all this trouble, CCE didn't clean up my DivX video portion like I hoped it would. Granted, my source wasn't a "clean" source, but I know w/tmpgenc I've had success cleaning up the video ie...macroblocks, color-enhancement..etc.
I'm going to try again w/a DVD rip.

[Sully]

Most of the stuff has been answered already.

I'd just like to add this... CCE does have an audio bug when using AMD processors. Fact of the matter is, it doesn't do a very good job anyway with audio. That's why most people choose another method for the audio. As far as video goes CCE supports AMD processors & it's codes.

From your last post I get the impression you were hoping to take your DiVX movies & get better quality by encoding them to mpeg2. Sorry, but that won't work. It might be possible using various filters to enhance certian things, but in general if you take an encoded source & encode again it'll be of lesser quality than the source. Encoding a movie is just comperssing to a different form. Whenever you copmpress data the is also data loss. Just the way it is.