Overscanning and bottom tape static

[mazinz]

A majority of tv and film material do not have those restorations and may never have those restorations, so asking why we still need overscan sounds rather ignorant to me. After all some films will only exist on lets say VHS and may never get released onto another format. Because of such we will usually have the crap lines on the bottom or sides, therefore I see it as very reasonable reason why overscan is still needed.

I see, so basically your advice is to leave the crappy stuff at edges of video and just use overscan as a general policy and good video just has to suffer for that.

If so, then we basically can agree to disagree!

I wonder how many more members agree with you on that.
Anyone wants to speak up?

You need to re-read it. Not everyone wants to re-encode everything. If you do not want to re-encode then leave the crap. If it is something you want to spend a little more time with (or whatever the reason), then crop and encode away. Pretty basic as an example- if I am doing an old tv airing of mine off betamax I am just going to leave it as is. However if I am doing a video project and have that intent to share with others, I will then do some cleanup.

But the whole point of leaving an option for overscan on HD sets is not really a bad thing. It doesn't hurt anything if it is something that will not get remastered or even re-encoded or if it was just a poor studio or lesser broadcast and you want a quick way of hiding those defects- then overscan is your friend

It seems you compromise anything except expecting broadcast engineers to get their act together.

It is a much bigger problem then that- it all depends on the material (shows/films/etc) that whatever said station can get their hands on and more importantly condition of such material and/or the cost to the station to get it fully restored with your no overscan wish in mind, since many older shows were not shot on digital

[LMotlow]

Folks are out of their league arguing with newpball. It's not that he has engineering expertise. That's not required if you're a World Champion black-belt kvetch, LOL.