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  1. Looks brand new never used. I know it's a time based correction card but what exactly does that entail and is this thing worth anything in todays market?

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    It's a Gen-locked TBC, which can be quite helpful for image stabilization & synchronization.

    However, this unit uses an ISA card slot and those stopped being available in MOBOs years ago, so the only PC you'll find that you could use it in would be an ancient one.
    Plus, it only supports SD (probably only NTSC by the look of it), and only with Composite or Y/C input, and Composite output - severely limiting its current usefulness.
    Plus there is no mention of drivers, so unless it is mean to be INDEPENDENT of the OS (a possibility, given its era), you'd have to obtain drivers to get it to interact with the (supported) OS. And if that's the case, the choice of OS is probably a sticking point also.

    So it's really only a retro, niche device, if still working(?).

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  3. I had a feeling it would be a very niche thing if it's usable at all to someone. It all looks brand new though, with the original bubble wrapped around the cards and tapped. I may just throw it up and see what happens, nothing ventured nothing gained lol.

    Thanks a bunch for the wealth of info! =)
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    '440 lines of resolution' ?
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  5. Originally Posted by DB83 View Post
    '440 lines of resolution' ?
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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    It's a Gen-locked TBC, which can be quite helpful for image stabilization & synchronization.

    However, this unit uses an ISA card slot and those stopped being available in MOBOs years ago, so the only PC you'll find that you could use it in would be an ancient one.
    Plus, it only supports SD (probably only NTSC by the look of it), and only with Composite or Y/C input, and Composite output - severely limiting its current usefulness.
    Plus there is no mention of drivers, so unless it is mean to be INDEPENDENT of the OS (a possibility, given its era), you'd have to obtain drivers to get it to interact with the (supported) OS. And if that's the case, the choice of OS is probably a sticking point also.

    So it's really only a retro, niche device, if still working(?).

    Scott
    I agree that the device is not going to be useful to most people looking for a TBC.

    It is possible to buy a system or a motherboard that has ISA slots if someone really needs one. They are still produced, although they are not cheap. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HLOQH6/?tag=stackoverfl08-20 However the OS and drivers could still be a problem.
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  7. If it only needs power from the ISA slot you can probably just solder some wires to it. Or to an ISA connector and plug the card into it. What does the remote control plug into? The computer or the board?
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    usually_quiet said:
    It is possible to buy a system or a motherboard that has ISA slots if someone really needs one. They are still produced, although they are not cheap. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HLOQH6/?tag=stackoverfl08-20 However the OS and drivers could still be a problem.
    I'd look around at some yard sales or school auctions for an old Dell or similar office type of computer. We had lots of them with ISA slots at our government office. Some are still in use.
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    Commodore Amiga collectors are the most likely group to be interested in the device. The package mentioned "Video Toaster", which was originally used with an Amiga.
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  10. Or a PCI to ISA adapter.
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    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    Commodore Amiga collectors are the most likely group to be interested in the device. The package mentioned "Video Toaster", which was originally used with an Amiga.
    There are Amiga collectors? I tossed two of them in the dumpster last year. Their main weak point was no VGA video card. You had to use a TV.
    I had a VGA adapter, but two in a row burned up. And I remember the 'Video Toaster' setup.

    @jagabo, never ran into a PCI>ISA adapter, but that does sound interesting.
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    Originally Posted by redwudz View Post
    There are Amiga collectors? I tossed two of them in the dumpster last year.
    Male IT works are really really bad to be collectors or pack rats for ANY and I do mean ANY old POS computer equipment that is lying around. One guy that worked for my present employer a few years ago was so bad that if we wanted to get rid of something and were too lazy to just throw it away, we'd just ask him if he wanted it. Finally it got so bad that his wife told him he couldn't take anything else home. I've seen people take home broken equipment that they had no way to repair, but they wanted it anyway.

    In addition to such IT workers, there are people who actually fondly remember Amiga and collect old ones by choice. I never had one so I don't know what the attraction is, but yep, such collectors exist. I wouldn't be surprised if there are Trash-80 (ha ha for those of you who get the joke) collectors who may even try to use them if they've got any that still work (shudder).
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  15. Originally Posted by redwudz View Post
    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    Commodore Amiga collectors are the most likely group to be interested in the device. The package mentioned "Video Toaster", which was originally used with an Amiga.
    There are Amiga collectors? I tossed two of them in the dumpster last year. Their main weak point was no VGA video card. You had to use a TV.
    I had a VGA adapter, but two in a row burned up. And I remember the 'Video Toaster' setup.

    @jagabo, never ran into a PCI>ISA adapter, but that does sound interesting.
    But this is not Amiga stuff (but can be used in Amiga - ISA is used probably to provide power supply), and for example i'm Amiga guy and FYI Amiga or generally vintage have particular value - AFAIR C65 was bide few days ago on ebay for over 20k $ - In case of Amiga i assume you trow to bin not only decent computer but also perhaps few hundred $ (depends from condition and additional equipment).
    A3000 have regular VGA output, all AGA machines was capable to produce VGA signal - side to this scandoubler/flicker fixers was popular - probably best new are those from Indivision - as they rely on additional FPGA and SDRAM they also offer new video modes and up to 2 independent video outputs (using Amiga DualPlayfield mode so OS friendly).
    Beside to this you always can use A2024 monitor (greyscale 1024*1024 pixels) or popular in past multiscan displays.

    btw Amiga community is still alive and relatively strong even in USA (where Amiga was less popular than in Europe) - living proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNjqq5nq_mA
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