NTSCfilm template with SVCD's?

[Thumper]

I ripped a movie, processed it with DVD2AVI using Force Film becuase it was 99% film (Adam's advice), and extracted the audio file. My question is that when using TMPGEnc, there is a template for SVCD called NTSCfilm. However, when you highlight that template the information dialoge on the GUI says it is used to optimize at 29.970 fps. But the NTSCfilm template for VCD's says it is used to optimize t 23.970 fps. So, what is the difference or what should I try? I just finished a copy of Gladiator just using the NTSCfilm for VCD template, should I try using the NTSCfilm for SVCD template or not? Im thinking either its a typo in the application, or its not and it will f**k up my film.

Also, I use Smartripper>DVD2AVI>TMPGEnc>VCDeasy, and am wondering what is a good way to make a quality SVCD if I encode it as Forced Film (if over 95% film grade) using the above software? I have looked at the guides and tried somethings that became coasters. I've made about 100 VCD's without a hitch, but I've never made a successfull SVCD. Imagine that!!

Any suggesttions would be great. Thanks in advance....Cheers. T

[adam]

I'm not sure if its a typo or not. The vcd standard supports 23.976fps, and the svcd standard doesnt support it directly, a pulldown flag is required. Perhaps the template descriptions were eluding to this fact. Nevertheless, the ntsc templates are for 29.97fps material and the ntscfilm templates are for 23.976fps material.

If you use forced film in dvd2avi then you MUST use the ntscfilm template, regardless of whether your making a vcd or a svcd, that is of course if you choose to even use a template.

Go ahead and give svcd encoding a shot if you think your dvd player will support it. Your currect vcd method will work fine for encoding svcds but you may want to give dvd2svcd a shot, it is an all-in-one program which will automate alot of the more complicated steps in making a svcd.

[Thumper]

Thanks Adam - I figured as much. So I guess the pulldown flag you are talking about for the SVCD 's that is required is under the advance settings where you check the box next to 3:2 pulldown flag, or something to that effect. I think you told someone else that.

So if I choose the SVCD> NTSCfilm template, and make sure the 3:2 pulldown flag(?) is set along with the other settings I use, It should produce a SVCD at 23.976?

I think my player does support SVCD according to this site.
Yeah, I downloaded DVD2SVCD yesterday, Going to try that next. I noticed that that bundle consists of some software I already have, so will installing the bundle produce conflicts with my other individual applications of the same type?


Thanks again Adam.

Cheers...T

[adam]

No don't use the 3:2 pulldown setting in the advanced tab. That is for actually doing a telecine yourself, (physically converting 23.976fps to 29.97fps.)

After setting the ntscfilm template than in the video tab you should see that under encode mode it will say 3:2 pulldown while playback. This keeps the film in 23.976fps but when it plays on your dvd player it will be converted to 29.97fps in real time. Basically if you set the ntscfilm template than you should be fine, and of course if you are using dvd2svcd then all of this should be setup for you.

Installing the bundle probably will not cause any conflicts if you have the same programs installed elsewhere. I have never had any problems with it in any case.

[poopyhead]

if you wanna know more about 3:2 pulldown, check out this website:

http://www.geocities.com/lukesvideo/telecining1.html

it's luke's video guide...good stuff

[stanwebber]

if you run multiple copies of dvd2avi or tmpgenc in seperate locations be mindful of where the .vfp plugins get registered as they are version specific