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  1. I forgot to add. I've tested the media player built into my Samsung TV at 1080p30, as well as a Samsung Bluray player and a Sony player (via USB). They all play it easily. I downloaded a test sample someone uploaded at doom9 a while ago with a high, sustained bitrate. Over 100Mbps in places. I also tested my old video card's decoding while I was at it. The result was the same for both the Samsung players and my video card. They all stuttered using the default VBV restrictions for level 4.1. I'm pretty sure I had to drop them down to something like vbv_maxrate=50000 and vbv_bufsize=50000 for stutter free playback. If memory serves me correctly, and I should be able to dig out my old post at doom9 to confirm later, the Sony Bluray player wasn't fussed. It played the source file stutter free. 1080p30 with peaks of 100Mbps, no vbv restrictions.

    Whether they'll do the same from discs...... well to be honest I don't really care.
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    Originally Posted by hello_hello View Post
    Whether they'll do the same playing video off discs...... well to be honest I don't really care.
    Yes, round shiny disks is so 1990's



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  3. Originally Posted by newpball View Post
    Originally Posted by hello_hello View Post
    Whether they'll do the same playing video off discs...... well to be honest I don't really care.
    Yes, round shiny disks is so 1990's
    Someone posting a pic of round shiny discs like that one is probably just as 90's.
    Were you hoping the glare would stop people from noticing your argument had fallen over?
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    Originally Posted by hello_hello View Post
    Were you hoping the glare would stop people from noticing your argument had fallen over?
    The strict answer to this loaded question is: nope!

    Originally Posted by hello_hello View Post
    Someone posting a pic of round shiny discs like that one is probably just as 90's.
    Oh well, then perhaps you consider this one more suitable?



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    Playing with HV30 HDV camcorder and figuring out how to store it, thinking how to make Blu-Ray discs from original footage of that camcorder. It was 2009 and I realized that peoples home movies, peoples camcorders have nothing to do with Blu-Ray as everybody tried to believe. At that time I went to the Best Buy and got WDTV, first generation media player. Quite a hellish device but good for home video, my camcorder. WDTV second generation and later models were much better. That thing played original, whatever that camcorder could produce. So I just blabbered for a while about evil Sony etc., maybe even little further but stayed outside of a Blu-Ray-shiny-disc-system. It came to couple of times to make Blu-Ray I made 30p, fake interlace BD, or I could produce 30i, but nothing regular.

    Even second generation of that WDTV already played 60p, you just needed to encode it with decent refs, easy. So you got your player, less than any Blu-Ray player of that time. Blu-Ray standard you can leave to corporations and their game of chasing profit and making people buying new and new stuff any time they want or for movies. But not like there was no choice, cheap solution, for you to get 60p on screen in your living room. Close family could get one of those players together with hardisk. Or a DVD, who cares, nobody refuses to see DVD, its content is important. And DVD's dowsnscaled from HD does'nt look bad at all.

    And I forgot about a climax for all of this, as a matter of fact, that camcorder of mine recorded Mpeg2, and it allowed me to edit and see it on screen, after editing, mind you, as original, the format that you'd decide to ban for HD ...

    ..and unofficially , having HDV mpeg2 HD camcorder, you could even burn BD and your player would most likely play that, all you need to do is replace audio with AC3, keeping original and mux BDMV, some practiced that as well ...
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  6. Originally Posted by hello_hello View Post
    ...The ones with USB inputs capable of playing High Profile 4.1 without any official "blu-ray" encoder restrictions even though I'm pretty sure USB playback isn't part of the official Bluray spec.
    +1
    I always saw the BR as a shiny death cat.
    Good thing, I don't have many of those.

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    Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    ...Blu-Ray standard you can leave to corporations and their game of chasing profit and making people buying new and new stuff any time they want or for movies.

    ..and unofficially , having HDV mpeg2 HD camcorder, you could even burn BD and your player would most likely play that, all you need to do is replace audio with AC3, keeping original and mux BDMV, some practiced that as well ...
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