This Computer Good For Video Editing?

[Clockwork]

Do you have a link to your YouTube page?

I'm very interested in checking out some of your finished products.

Thanks.

[lacywest]

Do you have a link to your YouTube page?

I'm very interested in checking out some of your finished products.

Thanks.

Here is mine .... I too would like to see the videos from the original posting person

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSzc5lLKSJdOvYrMUUcLUdA

[usually_quiet]

For fun, I went to pcpartpicker.com and made up a list based on some of the items discussed. The prices asked for the currently available GTX 760 and GTX 770 versions are rather high. (The lower-priced versions are sold out), so I went back to the GTX 750 Ti. There is some money left in the budget for upgrading the PSU, CPU cooler, or case (if desired), and buying sundries like SATA cables, cable ties, or fans, but not enough for a $400+ video card.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($174.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($134.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($114.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($142.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1319.36

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-21 14:42 EST-0500

[newpball]

...so I went back to the GTX 750 Ti.

GTX 750ti should be fine!

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Newegg)

Why in heaven's name not advice the K version?
Even a no-brainer overclock to 4.2 will give you a free performance gain of about 15%.

CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Micro Center)

Fine if you mildly overclock, otherwise a waste of money.

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory CMZ16GX3M2A2133C10 ($174.99 @ Best Buy)

You can get cheaper memory. Also you do not need 2133, even if you overclock the CPU you will likely not gain anything running the memory over 1866.

[usually_quiet]

...so I went back to the GTX 750 Ti.

GTX 750ti should be fine!

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Newegg)

Why in heaven's name not advice the K version?
Even a no-brainer overclock to 4.2 will give you a free performance gain of about 15%.

CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Micro Center)

Fine if you mildly overclock, otherwise a waste of money.

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory CMZ16GX3M2A2133C10 ($174.99 @ Best Buy)

You can get cheaper memory. Also you do not need 2133, even if you overclock the CPU you will likely not gain anything running the memory over 1866.

I meant to recommend the Intel Core i7-4790K. The i7-4790 was an error, which I will correct. The 2133 RAM was something the OP wanted. I think I also saw it recommended somewhere for overclocking the i7-4790K, and it is on the manufacturer's supported list for the motherboard I recommended. [Edit] Believe it or not I am aware that the i7-4790 only needs RAM up to 1600 and air cooling is all that is required for using it.

There are also likely shipping charges and/or sales tax not included in the total price, based on past experience with some of these sellers.

[newpball]

I think 2133 RAM was something the OP wanted. I also saw it recommended somewhere for overclocking the i7-4790K, and it is on the manufacturer's supported list for the motherboard I recommended.

Certainly it won't harm.

But $174.99 for 16GB of DDR3 memory is not particularly a good deal.

Also the poster may get a good deal if he can obtain a (used?) 4770K for a good price, say $250. Both CPUs are pretty much the same, sure the 4790K may theoretically cool better but for mild overclocks this is not going to make much of a difference. On the other hand $289.99 at Newegg is a pretty good deal already.

[usually_quiet]

I think 2133 RAM was something the OP wanted. I also saw it recommended somewhere for overclocking the i7-4790K, and it is on the manufacturer's supported list for the motherboard I recommended.

Certainly it won't harm.

But $174.99 for 16GB of DDR3 memory is not particularly a good deal.

Also the poster may get a good deal if he can obtain a (used?) 4770K for a good price, say $250. Both CPUs are pretty much the same, sure the 4790K may theoretically cool better but for mild overclocks this is not going to make much of a difference. On the other hand $289.99 at Newegg is a pretty good deal already.

Some Haswells run hotter than others. It's the luck of the draw. Which ones do you think are more likely to be dumped, the ones that run hot or the "good" ones that don't?

If you think $175 is too much, then go shopping for good 1866 RAM, preferably something on the supported list for one of the Z97 motherboards discussed, and make a recommendation.

[DozerMayne]

Secondary Hard Drive: 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 180MB/s Read & 133MB/s Write (Single Drive)

180MB/s Read & 133MB/s is a total joke, avoid this!

Personally I think you cannot go wrong with the Samsung 850 EVOs.

oops, edited, not sure why I had that..

[newpball]

If you think $175 is too much, then go shopping for good 1866 RAM, preferably something on the supported list for one of the Z97 motherboards discussed, and make a recommendation.

I know, I do not contribute at all in this topic.

Thanks for letting me know!

[Clockwork]

Do you have a link to your YouTube page?

I'm very interested in checking out some of your finished products.

Thanks.

I'm still interested...

[lacywest]

Do you have a link to your YouTube page?

I'm very interested in checking out some of your finished products.

Thanks.

I'm still interested...

... I'm still interested too ...

[usually_quiet]

If you think $175 is too much, then go shopping for good 1866 RAM, preferably something on the supported list for one of the Z97 motherboards discussed, and make a recommendation.

I know, I do not contribute at all in this topic.

Thanks for letting me know!

I didn't say you didn't contribute, but I do think you could do more.

[DozerMayne]

I was going to incorporate this, but of course, I can get the same drive for $52, but would get a better one.
This is for installing the OS too correct? That is basically the concept, with a fancy name?

I will have a 1 TB Western Digital Caviar Black, and a Samsung Evo 850 SSD @ 250GB as well, for storage.
The Samsung Evo 850 SSD is where my "scratch disk"/files and projects will be when working on them.

[newpball]

The Samsung Evo 850 SSD is where my "scratch disk"/files and projects will be when working on them.

Forget the Intel thing, nobody wants 64Gb drives anymore, instead use the Evo for the OS exclusively.

You do not need an SDD scratch drive unless perhaps you work mostly with 4K, instead get a $50 1TB Barracuda drive for that.

For storage you can use a large and relatively slow (5900 rpm) but reliable drive, for instance a WD RED drive or if you really care about reliability buy an enterprise drive.

[usually_quiet]

I was going to incorporate this, but of course, I can get the same drive for $52, but would get a better one.
This is for installing the OS too correct? That is basically the concept, with a fancy name?

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I will have a 1 TB Western Digital Caviar Black, and a Samsung Evo 850 SSD @ 250GB as well, for storage.
The Samsung Evo 850 SSD is where my "scratch disk"/files and projects will be when working on them.

A Z97 motherboard does support Intel Smart Response Technology so yes, if you wish you could use a separate 64GB SSD as cache memory between the hard disk drive and system memory to speed up reading and writing to the HDD.

I don't think using an Evo 850 SSD as a scratch disk would be very helpful. The Evo 850 SSD should be used as a boot drive.

[DozerMayne]

So, using an SSD for a scratch drive would not get any benefit as opposed to using the regular Western Digital 7200 RPM disc drive?

[usually_quiet]

So, using an SSD for a scratch drive would not get any benefit as opposed to using the regular Western Digital 7200 RPM disc drive?

No. There was a discussion here on this topic at one time. As I recall there are bottlenecks elsewhere that slow down the process of importing or exporting video, which negate any benefit the SSD might provide.

If you were capturing losslessly compressed or uncompressed HD video, then a big, fast, SSD in RAID 0 mode would be handy as a capture drive.

[DozerMayne]

My build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DLgmBm

I will be implementing the Intel Smart Response Technology using the small SSD
Will wait to see how things go before I get another SSD.
Also might get a Velociraptor drive..instead

I will be getting better fans of course...
The NZXT Phantom 410 case comes with this fan configuration
FRONT, 2x120mm or 1 X 140mm (1x120mm included)
REAR, 1 X 120mm (included)
SIDE, 1 x 120mm or 1 x 140mm
TOP, 2 X 120/140mm (1 x 140mm included)
I will be replacing those fans more than likely, and maybe even the fan
that comes with the Kraken cooler.

Going with the GTX 970 for good measure.
I get some who send me their projects for further editing, and I would
like to do more intense dynamic link After Effects editing, which has been limited by my current setup.

[usually_quiet]

My build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DLgmBm

I will be implementing the Intel Smart Response Technology using the small SSD
Will wait to see how things go before I get another SSD.
Also might get a Velociraptor drive..instead

I will be getting better fans of course...
The NZXT Phantom 410 case comes with this fan configuration
FRONT, 2x120mm or 1 X 140mm (1x120mm included)
REAR, 1 X 120mm (included)
SIDE, 1 x 120mm or 1 x 140mm
TOP, 2 X 120/140mm (1 x 140mm included)
I will be replacing those fans more than likely, and maybe even the fan
that comes with the Kraken cooler.

Going with the GTX 970 for good measure.
I get some who send me their projects for further editing, and I would
like to do more intense dynamic link After Effects editing, which has been limited by my current setup.

No OS?

[newpball]

Going with the GTX 970 for good measure.

Well unless you are a gamer you wasted your money, you would have done better spending some more money on a better motherboard.

I expect a "I bought a GTX 970 how come it does not really do much when I render and apply most effects" topic in a few weeks.

No OS?

Windows XP 32 bit?

[DozerMayne]

Was just showing an example, have not purchased anything yet.
So, the gtx cards are for gaming, I get that.
Would you say the 970 is overkill for my purpose?

[newpball]

So, the gtx cards are for gaming, I get that.

Well they are but they also work fine for supporting GPU enabled effects and rendering.

I think that anything over GTX 760/770 is total overkill. I would take the money you save to buy a better motherboard. $100+ for a Z97 is really bare minimum, sure it will work, but $150+ will be better balanced with what you got. Especially if you want to overclock and when you eventually fill all your memory slots you could use the extra stability.

[usually_quiet]

People seem willing to pay more for things with the ASUS name on them for some reason. It's pretty but the ASUS motherboard seems a little over priced. It has some electrolytic capacitors like significantly cheaper boards. I didn't pick the Gigiabyte board for good looks, I picked it on account of fewer user complaints and because forum members here who have bought Gigabyte motherboards praise them for being well-made. Like the ASUS board it has an Intel NIC and one of the better onboard sound cards. It also has a SATA Express connection, which the ASUS board lacks.

[DozerMayne]

Any certain motherboard in mind? Thanks for the comments..

[newpball]

Any certain motherboard in mind? Thanks for the comments..

Well, if you want to overclock do not get the entry level Z97 of any brand and if you work with powerful GPU(s) please get an ATX size board.

Here are two ~ $200 boards that look pretty decent to me:

- EVGA Z97 FTW - $170 (after rebate)!
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-LGA1150-Dual-Channel-Motherboard-142-HR-E977-KR/dp/B00K2KMO...otherboard+z97

- ASUS MAXIMUS VII HERO Z97 - $211
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K2MASE4/ref=psdc_1048424_t2_B00K2KMOZ2

[usually_quiet]

GIGABYTE GA-Z97-D3H if you want a motherboard in the same price range as the ASUS motherboard in your parts list.
GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD5H if you want a more expensive motherboard.

[Edit]I forgot to mention that the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK is an all-black version of the GA-Z97X-UD5H in case the color scheme of the standard version is not to your liking.

[DozerMayne]

Here is what I am going with, everything in my cart.
Those prices will fool you, because some of those lower prices do not include shipping.
So do not pay attention to those prices or where it shows they are from.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CRCbxr
I have a Windows 7 Pro I never used.

People say building your own is cheaper, but not always.

Building this same rig(Well, almost, because different mobo, difference in Kraken x41 and using Phantom 410 case), with a place like cyberpowerpc cost $1658
That is after 5% off, and other perks.
Thing is, with them, I get it prebuilt, OS configured and installed with SSD Intel Smart Response Technology,
Pro Wiring Upgrade, All upgraded low noise fans, Push Pull Kraken x41 setup(going with the x61 in my setup), free mouse and keyboard, a bunch of other stuff. 3 year warranty-1 year labor

The only issue is their customer service sucks,(dealt with them allready), horror stories galore with video and pictures of proof
of crappy, careless builds. Many ripoff reports, and bad reviews. Now, there are some that have a good experience, but from what I
have experienced on the phone, I can tell most of the stories are true. You have to pay shipping of the WHOLE unit for repair regarding the warranty.


However, for my build, given above, comes out to $1589.27 (add on warranties and stuff brought price up some),
I know it is being put together with love.
Better mobo.
My setup has the Kraken x61, and the Phantom 530 case, I can send single items for repair, FREE SHIPPING.
I have a Windows 7 Pro I never used, so I am set on OS.
I can meticulously do the wiring.

What you think?
Going with 16GB RAM for now. It is a Dual Channel Mem. mobo

[usually_quiet]

Your parts list should include one or more additional hard drives, if you don't have any you can re-use. It is better to have separate drives for the OS and the video files you want to edit and re-encode. Consider downgrading to a GTX 750 Ti if you need to do that to stay within the same budget.

The memory you picked isn't on the manufacturer's qualified vendors list for your motherboard, but the specs look like those for other Corsair memory that is on the QVL, so it should be OK.

Regarding the motherboard. One review at newegg noted that buyers should to check the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK's BIOS version and update it to F6 or higher if a i7-4790k CPU is installed, to avoid overheating/instability. Just so you know, the PCIEX4, PCIEX8 and PCIEX16 slots share bandwidth. When the PCIEX8 slot is populated, the PCIEX16 slot will operate at up to x8 mode. When the PCIEX4 slot is populated, the PCIEX16 slot will operate at up to x8 mode and the PCIEX8 will operate at up to x4 mode. It isn't unusual for all video card slots to share bandwidth like this, but I don't know if using the x8 and x4 slots, even for non-video cards, will impact the performance of GPU accelerated encoding.

[DozerMayne]

The OS is going on the A-Data Premier Pro SP900 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive. I am going to have to research the mobo info.

[usually_quiet]

The OS is going on the A-Data Premier Pro SP900 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive. I am going to have to research the mobo info.

64GB is too small for Windows 7, even if you move data files off the drive. 128GB is workable, but still a tight fit for most people.