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  1. This is supposed to be easy. But there is a safe way to do it without all the 'update' requests and such that never end.

    Currently my newish Windows 7 installation contains the 'update flash player' message in Firefox.
    What is the best way to do this carefully so that it is a minimal annoyance instead of something
    I want to uninstall from aggravation?

    Also is an update to the newest anniversary (whatevs) Firefox needed or desireable for streaming media efficiency?
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    There is a Flash applet in the control panel where you can set how/when/where Flash is updated.

    In general, it's wise to stay aware of these updates, because they contain security fixes.
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  3. In Win 7 Control Panel, yes?

    What's the routine from scratch? Best download site and install procedure.
    How to get all the MacAfee stuff out etc. I was talking to a friend who was just going through
    it as well.
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    Originally Posted by loninappleton View Post
    In Win 7 Control Panel, yes?

    What's the routine from scratch? Best download site and install procedure.
    How to get all the MacAfee stuff out etc. I was talking to a friend who was just going through
    it as well.
    Go to the Adobe site and find Flash (in the free or downloads pages as I recall) - it downloads an installer , run this (as administrator) and it opens up its own custom downloader , when you start going through the install screens , keep an eye out as the Macfee stuff is inside the download - you opt out of it when you`re installing ie just keep an eye out for it .

    Note - I have to run the installer as Admin or it doesn`t install correctly on mine . It might not need Admin on yours , I was never bothered enough to look into why .
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  5. Hi ,

    Caught 13 december . I am under XP sp3 .

    Code:
    DL 2 files below , and do clean install .
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    http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_16_active_x.exe
    http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_16_plugin.exe
    ====
    Cheers .
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    I'm using 64-bit Win Professional and have several different versions of Firefox on various machines.

    I've had excellent success using the Flash betas, which can be downloaded here:
    http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer.html

    What you get is the Flash plugin, nothing else.

    You simply download the file, close Firefox, and run the .exe

    When it's finished, you'll get a window with three choices, the last one being "Never check for updates (not recommended). This is the one I click.

    A new Flash beta comes out every 2-3 weeks. I have a link to the page in my bookmarks and give it a click every couple of days to see if there's a new version. I've been using it for a couple of years and can't remember having a problem.

    If you happen to be a Firefox beta tester, there have been Flash problems with recent Firefox nightlies, especially when e10s is activated and with the Flashblock extension. If it's of any interest, you can read through this.
    http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2862257

    By the way, you might have to uninstall your current version of Flash to install the beta.

    By the way, I'm not sure what you mean here:
    "Also is an update to the newest anniversary (whatevs) Firefox needed or desireable for streaming media efficiency?"

    In general, I guess using the latest release version of Firefox is probably a good idea, though - having been a beta tester for years - I don't use it myself.

    If your priority is a bit of stability, an alternative is Firefox ESR.
    https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/
    Last edited by jgg; 17th Dec 2014 at 06:18. Reason: Added info.
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    We've had posts on this before. Under Windows you sometimes can't opt out of McAfee when updating Flash. In those annoying cases, I have to go into the Control Panel and uninstall it after the Flash update finishes. In the past Adobe did actually give you a choice on McAfee and you could opt out, but I've seen in the last few updates that they don't ask at all and you get McAfee whether you want it or not. As unfortunately is always the case with Windows, there are myriad variables at play here and some people may always get a choice on McAfee, so I simply point out that I and others have reported that we no longer get a choice and it comes every time we update Flash. If it happens to us, it could happen to you.
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    I`ve always had the choice of installing it or not , maybe it`s to do with living in the UK ? My son inadvertently installed it on his PC , but it uninstalled just fine .
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    The betas don't have McAfee or anything else.
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  10. Originally Posted by aazerty View Post
    Hi ,

    Caught 13 december . I am under XP sp3 .

    Code:
    DL 2 files below , and do clean install .
    ===
    http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_16_active_x.exe
    http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_16_plugin.exe
    ====
    Cheers .
    Then these are not extra files to add to Adobe beta which I have done thus far? This is becoming overly confusing.

    Can I have one install procedure-- a clean install procedure given that everyone agrees on?
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  11. Originally Posted by loninappleton View Post
    Can I have one install procedure-- a clean install procedure given that everyone agrees on?
    Go to adobe.com. Pick flash player (at bottom of page.) Uncheck McAfee. Install.

    Personally, I allow it to notify me of updates and then let me choose whether or not to install them.
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    Originally Posted by loninappleton
    Then these are not extra files to add to Adobe beta which I have done thus far? This is becoming overly confusing.

    Can I have one install procedure-- a clean install procedure given that everyone agrees on?
    What, dear friend, are you talking about? What are the "extra files" supposed to do?

    The "beta" is the Flash player, no more, no less.
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    Originally Posted by smrpix View Post
    Go to adobe.com. Pick flash player (at bottom of page.) Uncheck McAfee. Install.
    It should be obvious, right? Wrong! Some people are just too damn lazy, even if it means just to uncheck a box during the install process, all they want to do is click Next..

    A few days ago I was posting on another thread and found out that some people would actually prefer to use an older version of ImgBurn because the latest version has some "additional software", even though all it takes is to opt out said software. I guess it's too much work.
    "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
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    The only way that software will stop having additional "baggage-ware" adware add-ons would be if software developers have access to an installer package that is full-featured and FOSS itself. So far, their choices have been either free/open installers that are not full-featured, or full-featured installers that aren't free (and so it costs the developer), or full-featured & free but that free being subsidized by the adware.

    Without someone willing to step up and create such an installer package (and being facile enough in programming to create a sophisticated installing structure), this isn't going to change. It costs somebody, something, somewhere.

    Personally, I think the current setup is good in separating the men (aware & vigilant) from the boys (unaware and/or lazy).

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  15. Hi ,

    What I have found .
    Code:
    Beginning
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    "Flash Player Help"
    http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html
    or
    "Aide de Flash Player "
    http://helpx.adobe.com/fr/flash-player.html
    ===
    You can verify for your browsers witch version is installed .
    
    =============
    You can also download Adobe Flash Player 32-bit for both Windows 32-bit and 64-bit.
    http://www.downloadx64.com/adobe-flash-player-32-bit/
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    Adobe Flash player 32-bit 16.0.0.235
    
    for IE
    http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/16.0.0.235/install_flash_player_ax.exe
    
    for Non-IE(Firefox, Safari, Opera...)
    http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/16.0.0.235/install_flash_player.exe
    =============
    
    ============= Fr
    "Aide de Flash Player / Problèmes d’installation | Flash Player | Windows"
    http://kb2.adobe.com/fr/cps/191/tn_19166.html#main_Download_and_install_the_latest_Flash_Player_version
    =============
    
    =============
    Where do I find solutions to common Flash Player installation problems?
    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/909550
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    http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/installation-problems-flash-player-windows.html
    http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/installation-problems-flash-player-mac.html
    http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/release-note/readme-flash-player-linux.html
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    Originally Posted by loninappleton View Post
    Can I have one install procedure-- a clean install procedure given that everyone agrees on?
    Just get those latest Adobe Player installations from this page: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html
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    For the ones who have learned that "newer not always means better"

    http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash%20Player%20archives

    the "small" archives are for Linux, the "BIG" archives are for Windows and Mac OS.
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  18. I'm bumping this thread since there is another Adobe Flshplayer/MacAfee/whatevs nightmare going on that blocks everything not 'upgraded.'

    I am using a slightly older Firefox 29.01.

    If I could just not use any of the sites that have flashplaer and the headaches that go with
    I would just delete them. But they are everywhere.

    What is the latest advice on clean installs with the new MacAfee virus checker? I scanned a few search options but it's just mostly irritated people like myself looking for a safe way to get their
    content again.
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  19. You can get the flash player offline installation file straight from Adobe, though that may take some digging around. I found the easier source is from Betanews, no add-on crap or malware.

    Upgrade your browser to a version that supports HTML5, hopefully it won't be too long before it's takes over the net.

    If MacAfee is the problem, turn off your network connection, turn MacAfee off and install Flash.
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    Originally Posted by loninappleton View Post
    This is supposed to be easy. But there is a safe way to do it without all the 'update' requests and such that never end.

    Currently my newish Windows 7 installation contains the 'update flash player' message in Firefox.
    What is the best way to do this carefully so that it is a minimal annoyance instead of something
    I want to uninstall from aggravation?

    Also is an update to the newest anniversary (whatevs) Firefox needed or desireable for streaming media efficiency?
    A lot of software does not need frequent updates, if it works don't mess with it.

    However that does not apply to software that has a lot of interaction with the internet, flashplayer, the browser, email etc. Those applications should be updated immediately.

    You should always have the latest versions of flash player or the browser, those updates often contain security fixes.

    Those (semi) automatic things are a good thing!

    Computers require maintenance, it is not a lamp!

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  21. Originally Posted by nic2k4 View Post
    You can get the flash player offline installation file straight from Adobe, though that may take some digging around. I found the easier source is from Betanews, no add-on crap or malware.

    Upgrade your browser to a version that supports HTML5, hopefully it won't be too long before it's takes over the net.

    If MacAfee is the problem, turn off your network connection, turn MacAfee off and install Flash.

    nic2k4

    I have taken your advice and the Betanews site download has given a good result-- no extras that I can see and the install was straightforward. I will try to keep betanes in mind for the future but may bump the thread again in the future.
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    See post 16 above,
    it contains a link to a clean Flash, no add-ons.

    You're making this whole thing more difficult than it needs to be, for some reason.
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  23. Glad that did it for you. I trust Betanews for all my downloads, they have been supplying update servers for Spybot for many years. Although they also offer crap laden software (like the Freemake stuff) nothing has come up virus infected. This side loading questionable software is everywhere now, it would be nice if they did like Baldrick and announced it, but at least if something is shifty a reviewer will pipe up.
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  24. Originally Posted by nic2k4 View Post
    Glad that did it for you. I trust Betanews for all my downloads, they have been supplying update servers for Spybot for many years. Although they also offer crap laden software (like the Freemake stuff) nothing has come up virus infected. This side loading questionable software is everywhere now, it would be nice if they did like Baldrick and announced it, but at least if something is shifty a reviewer will pipe up.
    Betanews link continues to be a good source of updates.
    But it's almost as if you have to put it on a hotkey for all the Adobe updates.

    I added this note when I returned to the thread.

    Thanks again.
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    One good thing is that Flash is on its way out.

    You no longer need it for YouTube or Vimeo and more sites will follow soon.

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  26. Originally Posted by newpball View Post
    One good thing is that Flash is on its way out.

    You no longer need it for YouTube or Vimeo and more sites will follow soon.



    Hmmmm. I'll believe it when there are not a lot of extra clicks to make a youtube go-- and enough bandwidth to keep it from stalling and hanging all the time.

    True, I have some other processes going quite often but am still on the slow track for
    seeing even short how-to presentations on it without dropouts.

    Editorial: There is either not enough screen activity (as in drop outs) or too much as in slide shows which have become epidemic. I would like suggestions for Firefox blockers that stop all the
    slideshow activity, new generation pop ups etc.

    I've found a couple today which are add-ons but haven't proofed them yet. One is called Right To Click.

    Also to accommodate hand held toys, everything on a crt is now huge Mr. Magoo style pics and type fonts.
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    Right to click is an add-on that attempts to override a web sites intention that the right mouse click should be disabled
    (for what ever reason).

    If you want some advice advice re: "slideshow" or "new generation pop ups", please provide a link showing said activity.
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  28. Originally Posted by davexnet View Post
    Right to click is an add-on that attempts to override a web sites intention that the right mouse click should be disabled
    (for what ever reason).

    If you want some advice advice re: "slideshow" or "new generation pop ups", please provide a link showing said activity.
    Here is a very simple one made by the local League of Women Voters:

    http://www.lwvappleton.org/

    The slide show is going and, as mentioned, everything is huge.

    Also I realize this is videohelp and may have started a topic which should be elsewhere.
    Videohelp is knowledgeable on a lot of topics.
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    Originally Posted by davexnet View Post
    Right to click is an add-on that attempts to override a web sites intention that the right mouse click should be disabled
    (for what ever reason).

    If you want some advice advice re: "slideshow" or "new generation pop ups", please provide a link showing said activity.
    Here is a very simple one made by the local League of Women Voters:

    http://www.lwvappleton.org/

    The slide show is going and, as mentioned, everything is huge.

    Also I realize this is videohelp and may have started a topic which should be elsewhere.
    Videohelp is knowledgeable on a lot of topics.

    Experiment showed that Yesscript add-on for Firefox stopped the League slide show in it's tracks.

    There may be others where it isn't so easy.
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    Yes, it's activated by the script.
    I don't know of an add-on that specifically stops slide shows, but there may be one somewhere.
    Perhaps somebody else knows.
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