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  1. It seems I lost pixels when playing a VOB clip after copying it out of its original DVD.

    In order to play the VOB on my mac, I simply renamed the extension to .mpeg

    (My goal is to archive this VOB as it is family stuff, I don't care about the format, and I don't need no "chapters" or "subtitles" etc, just I need to preserve the footage itself in the highest quality possible)

    But I am observing a loss in resolution as compared with playing directly off the original DVD.

    So my question is - could it be that there are other files on the DVD (IFO etc) which must be present in order to preserve resolution?

    Or perhaps its just due to playback settings on my mac, and nothing to worry about?
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    Just use vob2mpeg

    Edit:

    That is a Windows program. Will not work on a mac (unless your mac also supports Windows)

    You can not simply rename a vob.

    But on a mac ?
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    MakeMKV works on a Mac, and so does AviDemux.
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  4. Originally Posted by Levulose View Post
    So my question is - could it be that there are other files on the DVD (IFO etc) which must be present in order to preserve resolution?
    No.

    If the footage is interlaced and your player is deinterlacing it, then it might seem as if resolution is lost during playback. But the same should be true if playing the DVD.
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    1. Go back to your original DVD (we'll call that your source) and re-rip using DVDDecrypter - not for the decryption (since these are home movies), but for the ability to pull the title out as a single VOB, or, better for your purposes, MPG file.
    2. If you have a VOB and need an MPG, do NOT just do a name change, use VOB2MPG as DB83 suggests.
    3. Understand that DVD can be interlaced (as manono said) and/or it could be less that full SD spec to begin with. DVD supports 720x480, 704x480, 352x480 and 352x240 (those last 2 being "1/2 D1" and "1/4 D1 or CIF" spec). If you're not sure, use MediaInfo to check (you could post the text of the detailed readout if you need our assistance/agreement).

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  6. Thanks Manono - that answered it. Sure enough I see its "interlaced," which my mac wouldn't handle, unlike it's DVDplayer. So now I can rest assured that my self-sufficient VOB will be archived with all it needs.

    Now regarding converting the VOB to something more useful, although that's another topic, thanks everybody for the pointers. And thanks Cornucopia for pointing me to MediaInfo, I found VideoSpec from which I pulled the following (see below), so if my goal were to preserve the highest quality during a conversion, any advice would be appreciated.

    *** General Parameters ***
    - Name: VTS_02_1.VOB
    - Container: Mpeg Program Stream
    - Size: 10.16 MB
    - Duration: 10s 43ms
    - Bitrate: 8 090 Kbps
    - Fast start: Not available
    - Encoding Library: Created by Nero
    - Encoding Application: Undefined

    *** Video Track Parameters ***
    - Format: MPEG-2 Video
    - Size: Created
    - FourCC: 0x10000002
    - Track number(s): 0
    - Bitrate: Max.: 9 641 Kbps
    Average: 7 737 Kbps
    Min.: ---
    - Frame rate (fps): Max.: Undefined
    Average: 29.970
    Min.: Undefined
    - Bitrate mode: Variable
    - Encoding profile: Main@Main
    - Resolution: Undefined
    - Width (Pixel number): 720
    - Height (Pixel number): 480
    - Pixel Aspect Ratio: Undefined
    - Display Aspect Ratio: 4:3
    - Chroma subsampling format: YUV 4:2:0
    - Standard: NTSC
    - Interlacing: Interlaced - Bottom Field First
    - Encoding library: Created by Nero
    - Additional Parameters: BVOP: Yes
    Matrix: Custom
    GOP: M=3
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) ratio: 0.747

    *** Audio Track(s) Parameters ***
    *** Audio Track #1
    - Format: AC3-A52
    - Size: 240.6 KB (2%)
    - FourCC: 0x2000
    - Number(s) and language(s): 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80): Undefined
    - Details: Undefined
    - Profile: Undefined
    - Bitrate: 192 Kbps
    - Bitrate mode: Constant
    - Resolution: 16 bits
    - Rate: 48.0 KHz
    - Channel(s): 2 (stereo)
    - Position: Front: L R
    - Encoding Library: Undefined
    - Additional Parameters: Not available

    *** Miscellaneous ***
    - Subtitle(s): No Subtitle
    - Metadata: Album: Undefined
    Part number: Undefined
    Track name: Undefined
    Track name number: Undefined
    Performer: Undefined
    Screenplayer/Writer: Undefined
    Genre: Undefined
    Encoded date: Undefined
    Comment: Undefined
    Album artist: Undefined
    Grouping: Undefined
    Copyright: Undefined
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    That is another question/topic. And the answer really does depend on your intended playback device.

    And I would suggest that you post it in the dedicated mac forum since they will know what tools, other than those already mentioned, are available.
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